To think this forum is over run with MRAs?

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MRAs are men's rights activists. I can't believe the comments I am increasingly reading. So apparently:

• mums at home with 2 small children have an easy time and are just swanning around at the park or taking it easy.
• if a dad is verbally abusive to her and their children then his wife should understand the stress he is under
• being a SAHD is incredibly hard work and very demanding, but being a SAHM is piss easy and the mother should be grateful the father works so she can do this.
• kids have got short term memories so it does not matter if when a couple divorces the father hardly sees the kids.
• clear abuse from a husband to his wife is not really abuse, he is just stressed and she should be more understanding.

FFS its like the 1950's in here. About half the comments on this forum seem to be like the ones I have quoted, and half are sensible ones that recognise abuse is not okay, being a stay at home parent is hard work, and women should not put up with terrible partners just because they are stressed,

Yes, and providing her with the luxury of being a sahm. I’ve seen the usual sahm debates on here many times but no mother would describe being at home with two kids and one on the way as “luxury” her husband was providing her with (it would be extremely rare anyway).

I'm not sure it's so much about being an MRA, I think it's a much more general issue of posters liking to do the following:

1. Disagreeing with the OP at any cost. So if someone posts to say "I don't think I should do all my husband's ironing" then everyone will pile on to say "of course you should". Whereas if a man posted "I think my wife should do all my ironing" everyone would pile on to say "of course she shouldn't".

2. Making out they find life much easier than the OP. So if someone posts to say "I'm struggling to look after three small kids and do the housework and also do my husband's ironing", everyone will pile on to say "Oh it's easy, you just need to be organised, I looked after 6 preschoolers, kept my house like a show home, popped all meals in the slow cooker, and volunteered to do my neighbours' ironing for fun".

Aye, some of the comments on the ironing thread are ridiculous.

This. It’s extremely polarised at times and there are a fair few posters that fall into each of those camps.

This is not only about the ironing thread, although that is an example. There are certain threads that just seem to attract these posters.

I see a lot of women here that don't like alternative viewpoints tbh

Its become a bit of a sport on X/Twitter for some MRAs and some TRAs to come on mumsnet, make a goady post and tweet the responses. Some of them are as clear as day and I genuinely wonder how they aren’t seen through more clearly/quickly. I didn’t realise this wasn’t widely known tbh.

I stand up for men sometimes on here because it is ridiculous the double standards- the second a man replies they’re shot down/ ridiculed etc. The egs you give are awful, nobody should think them let alone say them, but saying that I’ve seen people who grabbed something I said and they saw something that was opposite to what I said. I think it’s more worrying the sahm vs wm on mn. Really sad

They're all over FWR disrupting grown up conversations by accusing everyone of being "far-right".

There have been several red pill/incel/Mra posters popping up for months.

I also find Cinic1 or whatever he's called's posts inappropriate on a fairly regular basis.

(I don't mean sexually inappropriate, I mean - terrible advice by a man who has no grasp of women's issues - inappropriate).

I didn't know about this - I stopped using X/ Twitter .
I am not surprised though.
I've posted on a few threads lately where I'm quoted back by some goady person and it's quite obvious their intent is just to wind me up and get me to say something else they can poke fun at.
I just feel so angry on behalf of the OPs on some of the threads where their life is in turmoil and they really need advice and these posters are coming on in numbers just to cause as much damage as they can.

No.

But the op is right.

There is a viciousness in their answers.

They are easy to spot.

OP - I try to ignore and engage with the threads in an honest way.

Not overrun but they're certainly very active.

It saddens me because when a woman has a problem this place can be so helpful. It certainly helped me a few years ago but it was a different place then.

There was a thread the other night which started with the op saying that 'she" knew false allegations of abuse by women were common and that "she" had falsely accused her partner of physical abuse so she could spend more time with her kids. It was deleted and I suspect was a man stirring and hoping for replies backing up the false accuser to screenshot and prove how mumsnetters always back up women. It didn't work as everyone was against the fake false accuser.

There is gem right now telling a woman she should be fine with her husband looking at her sisters only fans page because 100 percent of men would look at their wife’s sisters porn pages because ‘men’s brains’ and women are just ‘frothing’ cos ‘wimminz brains’. So fucking fed up with men, their shitty behaviour and their apologists who have infiltrated this site.