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to give my "white" niece a "black" dolly for her birthday?

62 replies

paow · 16/04/2008 11:04

Hi there, I went to my local toy shop and bought a really nice sling for my 4 year old niece to carry around a little dolly. They had a lovely fair trade "ethnic" dolly to go with it which is of a dark brown colour.
Now, my neice's family lives in a small town where there are no black people.
I live in London and I thought it was pretty normal to buy such thing, but now dh thinks my niece's parents will not like it and think it's weird as they will think that I am giving her a black little baby dolly to carry around as if to encourage her to have a black boyfriend? yikes, what is wrong with my dh!!! and his family IS very close minded.
Would you be offended? or if you are black and you are given a "white" dolly? would love to hear your opinion.

I have stuck to my guns and wrapped it ready for next week.

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chipmonkey · 16/04/2008 11:22

at TenaciousG! OMG, am I encouraging my sons to do it with bears? Well, if every holiday they book as adults is to the North American Wilderness, I will Suspicious.....

Seriously, I think your dh has very strange ideas. Nothing wrong with a black doll at all and actually, even if he were right, wtf is wrong with having a black boyfriend, anyway?

FeverishFish · 16/04/2008 11:22

if sh elikes it( which i doubt tbh )
he will eb all" oh and it was MY idea)

branflake81 · 19/04/2008 08:52

I had a black doll when I was little and I didn't like it at all. Not sure you can accuse a child of racism, maybe I was in an innocent type way, but I liked to pretend my dolls were my babies and well, that one clearly wasn't.

(PS - I dont think like that any more!)

PaninoPan · 19/04/2008 09:01

dd is white, and has a black dolly.

btw, does the enlightened hubby think that because the dolly is a little girl this will encourage her to be a lesbian?????

MarsLady · 19/04/2008 09:02

Sigh...........

misdee · 19/04/2008 09:05

return dh for a refund.

dd's have ethnic baby annabels. they are the ones that are most played with.

mehdismummy · 19/04/2008 09:06

damm thats why i married an algerian! Because i had an algerian dolly! What a load of crap! What about tom from tots tv and milo? My dh also i was gonna make my son gay when i brought him a toy pushchair! Men!

Nbg · 19/04/2008 09:07

snort at Tenacious

I make dolls and at the craft fair I went to a couple of weeks ago, the "brown/black" dolls sold first and the ones that were left got more compliments than the fairer skin ones.

I think its a lovely gift and your dh has a bit of a warped mind.

harleyd · 19/04/2008 09:08

oh fgs
is he intellectually challenged

mehdismummy · 19/04/2008 09:09

are you free for theatre yet?

EffiePerine · 19/04/2008 09:10

Mehdismummy: DS loves his (pink) pushchair

No comments at all so far (though we do live in North London...)

kazbeth · 19/04/2008 09:19

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mehdismummy · 19/04/2008 09:20

its must be a north london thing then! Ds loves his too! When i first brought it he did not leave it alone! He also loves his mini henry!

sfxmum · 19/04/2008 09:22

when I was a kid, in the 70's my dools were a bit like the UN and strangely I remember one of them was a boy who does dolls like that?
freaky parents

Buda · 19/04/2008 09:24

I had a black doll when I was little - in Dublin in the 1960s. Her name was Lulu. I loved her to bits. Took her everywhere. My mother hated her but it was she reckons she didn't have a nice face.

WanderingTrolley · 19/04/2008 09:25

Well this is quite horrific.

Not least because if your dh is right [flying pig] then I have encouraged many an innocent child to get into bestiality with my thoughtless presents of teddy bears and toy dogs. I bought a play zoo for a child once - which amounts to an orgy in your dh's thinking.

Will I go straight to Hell?

[worried]

Boco · 19/04/2008 09:27

dd1 was given her first doll by my brother - a black baby who she called Pat and still plays with him 5 years later. Tbh didn't really think about it - we live in a very white village too. I think your dh is being a bit daft.

I am a bit worried that the biro scribble on Pat's upper arm might encourage her to get a tattoo though.

OverMyDeadBody · 19/04/2008 09:30

what's wrong with boy dolls sfx?

paow your DH sounds a bit strange. Give uyour neice the doll, I would especially if it where likely to cause a stir!

sfxmum · 19/04/2008 09:32

OMDB it is not that the doll was dressed as a boy you see, it was far more specific than that iyswim

OverMyDeadBody · 19/04/2008 09:37

Well I'm glad it was more specific than just clothes, or it would be a bit odd wouldn't it!

Boy dolls should have the right anatomy. You wouldn't expect fingers to be left off a doll so why expect genitalia to?

Umlellala · 19/04/2008 09:39

My MiL asked me a couple of months ago if she could buy dd a black doll for her birthday as apparently she always wanted one but wasn't allowed

I was like, yeah, of course get her a doll - she loves dolls! What does it matter what colour it is?

Dd (2) loves her doll (as predicted), and it is baby annabell gadget-type that goes 'Mama ha ha ha ha' which she finds hysterical

sfxmum · 19/04/2008 09:41

I suppose it is normal, in those days all my girl dolls where not anatomically accurate, and my dd only has rag dolls so I have no idea what dools look like down there

Cocobear · 19/04/2008 11:54

Lordy I gave my son a black dolly, and numerous stuffed and plastic animals. Have I turned him into a gay man who secretly fancies only black women and cats? What about the toy dinosaurs??? This is horrifying.

Nighbynight · 19/04/2008 13:00

YANBU.

Am not even going to unravel the layers of wrongness in what your dh said!

CrossnessMaureen · 19/04/2008 13:12

Well, whilst agreeing with the general level of scepticism of posters towards your DH's barmy opinions, (and as the mother of a boy who regularly plays with his dark-skinned Baby Born), I think you should brace yourself for some pretty small-minded comments from your BIL and SIL, and for the child's enjoyment of the doll to be potentialy undermined by this.

Very depressing.

(Blu)

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