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Can I use this on my 5 year old?

21 replies

Sparkleandfly · 11/08/2024 21:18

To help him sleep? I can’t find any info online.

Can I use this on my 5 year old?
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Katemax82 · 11/08/2024 22:54

I have used the pillow spray for my young kids..can't see why it would be a problem

mytuppennyworth · 11/08/2024 22:56

No, don't use any "essential oils" on children, they can cause liver damage

Sparkleandfly · 11/08/2024 23:09

Sorry I put the wrong one up - it’s this one with magnesium in it.

Can I use this on my 5 year old?
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Lucyjm · 11/08/2024 23:13

Not sure about that one but I find this useful
BetterYou Magnesium Sleep Kids' Body Spray 100ml| Holland & Barrett (hollandandbarrett.com)

KreedKafer · 11/08/2024 23:13

It’s just a pleasant-smelling body lotion.

otravezempezamos · 11/08/2024 23:21

mytuppennyworth · 11/08/2024 22:56

No, don't use any "essential oils" on children, they can cause liver damage

Well you’re not supposed to eat them…

Sunshine9218 · 11/08/2024 23:45

mytuppennyworth · 11/08/2024 22:56

No, don't use any "essential oils" on children, they can cause liver damage

Doubt the amount in a cream could do liver damage.

I would use it, I used to spray the pillow spray near baby.

DaisyL · 11/08/2024 23:47

I would as long as they don't have sensitive skin

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 05:42

Sunshine9218 · 11/08/2024 23:45

Doubt the amount in a cream could do liver damage.

I would use it, I used to spray the pillow spray near baby.

why do you doubt it?

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 08:29

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 05:42

why do you doubt it?

Because the amount in the cream wouldn't be very much and it would have to go all the way through your skin

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 08:36

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 08:29

Because the amount in the cream wouldn't be very much and it would have to go all the way through your skin

what, it is supposed to be absorbed through the skin, that is the whole point, And it is supposed to contain a high enough concentration to be active THAT is the whole point. So what is making you "doubt" that there is enough to cause liver damage? have you performed any sort of quantitative analysis? Or are you trusting a child's health to a wild guess?

Mmr224 · 12/08/2024 08:40

We use this one which is definitely safe for babies and toddlers. It seems to help and smells amazing.

www.boots.com/my-little-coco-sleepy-head-sweet-dreams-pillow-mist-150ml-10292383

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 08:41

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 08:36

what, it is supposed to be absorbed through the skin, that is the whole point, And it is supposed to contain a high enough concentration to be active THAT is the whole point. So what is making you "doubt" that there is enough to cause liver damage? have you performed any sort of quantitative analysis? Or are you trusting a child's health to a wild guess?

Have you? You seem to care a lot about this but haven't given any evidence

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 09:32

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 08:41

Have you? You seem to care a lot about this but haven't given any evidence

Very few essential oils have been study to assess their safety on children. This is not one of them. This is classed as an alternative medicine. Alternative why? Either because it can't be proved safe, or it can't be proved effective. These are the reasons medications remain "alternative" rather than mainstream.

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 11:40

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 09:32

Very few essential oils have been study to assess their safety on children. This is not one of them. This is classed as an alternative medicine. Alternative why? Either because it can't be proved safe, or it can't be proved effective. These are the reasons medications remain "alternative" rather than mainstream.

Well until they find research that says not to I would happily occasionally use plant based stuff like this. Not like I'm using it every day.

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 12:07

Sunshine9218 · 12/08/2024 11:40

Well until they find research that says not to I would happily occasionally use plant based stuff like this. Not like I'm using it every day.

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That is completely irresponsible. Children die and are severely disabled by alternative medicine every year. Very few essential oils have been studied to asses their safety on children, and of the ones that have, most are unsafe. Why are you saying "plant based" as if that is somehow meaningful/ In what way do you think it is meaningful? What do you think all "plant based" compounds have in common? There is nothing. "Plant based" descries a wide range of chemicals from chlorophyll to ricin- one of the deadliest poisons on the planet. Hemlock is plant based! Deadly night shade is plant based!

Sunshine9218 · 13/08/2024 09:04

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 12:07

That is completely irresponsible. Children die and are severely disabled by alternative medicine every year. Very few essential oils have been studied to asses their safety on children, and of the ones that have, most are unsafe. Why are you saying "plant based" as if that is somehow meaningful/ In what way do you think it is meaningful? What do you think all "plant based" compounds have in common? There is nothing. "Plant based" descries a wide range of chemicals from chlorophyll to ricin- one of the deadliest poisons on the planet. Hemlock is plant based! Deadly night shade is plant based!

If it's ok for me to drink camomille tea (even when pregnant) I trust a tiny bit in a cream for dd. Plant based things I can use, I would use with her. I'm never going to agree with you or you with me, so I'm not going to reply again. I think you're being very overcautious and that's up to you but that's just not how I live my life.

mytuppennyworth · 13/08/2024 13:14

Sunshine9218 · 13/08/2024 09:04

If it's ok for me to drink camomille tea (even when pregnant) I trust a tiny bit in a cream for dd. Plant based things I can use, I would use with her. I'm never going to agree with you or you with me, so I'm not going to reply again. I think you're being very overcautious and that's up to you but that's just not how I live my life.

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over cautious! as in not giving children things when I k now of children killed by them! You have a strange definition of over cautious. Herbal teas in pregnancy! camomile tea! known to cause developmental problems and used to promote miscarriage! yes, you are right we are never going to agree.

Herbal teas are "alternative". This means have not been proved safe or have not been proved effective. Quite often it means have been proved unsafe.

It beggars belief that people don't understand this.

Answer me or don't answer me, I don't care, but your potentially lethal misinformation can't be allowed to stand here unchallenged. Someone might belief you and do irreparable damage to their foetus.

Sunshine9218 · 13/08/2024 13:31

mytuppennyworth · 13/08/2024 13:14

over cautious! as in not giving children things when I k now of children killed by them! You have a strange definition of over cautious. Herbal teas in pregnancy! camomile tea! known to cause developmental problems and used to promote miscarriage! yes, you are right we are never going to agree.

Herbal teas are "alternative". This means have not been proved safe or have not been proved effective. Quite often it means have been proved unsafe.

It beggars belief that people don't understand this.

Answer me or don't answer me, I don't care, but your potentially lethal misinformation can't be allowed to stand here unchallenged. Someone might belief you and do irreparable damage to their foetus.

Where are you getting your information from because what I've read says they haven't proved any links with camomille tea. If people choose to believe medical information from this site that's on them not me I'm afraid! It sounds like you are very anti-alternative medicine and that's fine for some people.

BertieBotts · 13/08/2024 19:42

I would try it, assuming the packaging doesn't give a minimum age or a warning.

My rule of thumb is if something was truly dangerous it would likely be banned or made to carry a warning. If it doesn't have this, then I don't devote too much energy to worrying about it.

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