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Co parenting but very little financial support

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ARaspberryberet · 11/08/2024 13:49

Long story short my partner of 20+ years left a while ago and got immediately straight into another relationship. The other woman fell pregnant Immediately.
It's been a hard one for me but I've been Co parenting quite well for the children and disregarding my feelings about it as much as I can so it doesn't affect them
But recently I'm getting very angry about things. I usually keep my mouth shut to avoid an argument (plus he always manages to convince me I'm the irrational one) so some advice from others would really help me how to navigate this or tell me if I'm being unreasonable.

I mainly just provide for the kids myself. Ex is on benefits but also working cash in hand. His agreement was he'd pay x amount of cash per week for the kids. £30 each a week for both kids. It started out well, but then he started tofall behind in payments. He'd make up for it by paying in dribs and drabs when he could "spare" money.
But these last few months I feel like the piss is being taken out of me. I havent received a single penny from the start of June. He has the kids one evening for a few hrs every week and then over night every other weekend. When he has the children it's days out, toys bought for them etc eating out. Himself and his new partner are living a lavish lifestyle, go out all the time, he's wearing all these fancy branded clothing etc and so is his new child. Meanwhile I'm a single mum on benefits as I became very unwell shortly after he walked out. I don't mind that I don't have money to look after my own needs, whatever small amount of money I get pays the bills, runs the home, pays for food and whatever clothing my small children need along with the other expenses of kids as we all know. I barely get by. I cover everything the children need on my own on the very little I have. Until now I've said nothing as my ex has a very good way of spinning things back round and I feel to blame or like I'm being a c u.n.t
But these last few months I've been really angered by the lack of financial support to his two other kids. On social media and to everyone he's this great hands on dad and I just keep my mouth shut to avoid any trouble.
To date he owes me £540 in backdated payments alone. I recently purchased the school uniforms and all that's needed for returning to school which set me back roughly £300 never mind what it's cost in meantime as they needed new underwear, socks, shoes, clothing that they've outgrew. I couldn't afford any summer clubs or days out with the kids as I never have 2 pennies to rub together. I feel like absolute crap that I've never any money spare to do anything with them or treat them. I feel like I'm just existing. So ex has asked if he can take the kids for a week so he can take them on days out etc before school holidays are over and I'm furious and I'm unsure if I'm being unreasonable.
I feel bitter about everything but I'm not a bitter ex that pulls the kids into it all but in this instance I do feel like being that bitter woman yet I know it's not the answer. But I feel like saying no to him. I feel like saying you aren't providing financially at all towards your two other small children and I'm drowning in being a single parent footing everything alone, emotionally and financially, along with coping with the fact he walked out of our family and straight into creating a family with someone else immediately. I feel like saying you owe x amount of money here, which I really need to get us by. He has all sorts of excuses for never having money yet he works and gets benefits, she works and gets benefits as she is claiming she's a single mum. There's double the amount of money, if not more, than what me and 2 kids are surviving on. I foot everything for the kids myself, even out of school activities etc they want to go too. His other child just celebrated its birthday not very long ago and I had the unfortunate chance of someone telling me about the lavish party, cake, presents and party bags that was splashed out on from my ex, Fancy nights out and weekends away with the new partner. I just feel like he's providing so much for his other child and his new life like his other 2 children don't exist.

I haven't been able to afford any trips for the kids all summer, all I've managed are hours at the park or picnics etc... The bare minimum essentially. But he can swan in all of a sudden and look to take the kids and do all these amazing things and trips with them to make their summer and so they'll look at him as this really hands on father along with everyone else because it will be plastered over social media. I just feel like saying NO and I understand how unreasonable that sounds but I feel so angry at how he can do this. How he has many excuses as how he can't provide to our children and has left every responsibility on my shoulders yet he can afford to treat them and make them feel special in ways I can't because he has failed me and let me down just because he has a new partner and child and this new life to pay for. I'm really angry.

And the kids just think the sun shines out of their dad's ass and it breaks my soul. I obviously don't want the kids to not love their dad but it is soul destroying that they're so young that they don't understand mum does it all and there's reasons why I can't afford to buy them the flashy things dad can or the days out that dad can. That every single penny I have goes on survival and what they need. I cant even believe he has the audacity to say he wants the kids on a random week that suits him and her so they can spoil the kids when he knows I fork out for everything on my own and he sees I'm struggling financially. He genuinely thinks it's ok because he'll pay me the odd few quid here and then, in his head he genuinely thinks this is him contributing. I feel like he needs a lesson to see this is really wrong yet I know how pathetic that must make me sound. I'm just sick with how he's getting away with this and how he looks (and thinks of himself) as this providing involved father!

The unreasonable petty part of me thinks he doesn't deserve to get to do this esp when he's been living this high life and not helping towards the basic needs of his other kids, he knows I'll provide the basic needs of the children because as a mum you do! He gets all the fun of parenthood and left me with the hard shitty parts and I'm struggling and I'm angry now and I'm angry because the kids have begged me to take them to all the places he's going to take them and I couldn't because I couldn't afford to because of his lack of help, him claiming he can't afford to pay week after week but his new life suggests a different narrative. His children aren't a priority, the financial burden is left on me which is how he can afford his new life

I want to say no (but then I know I'm taking a fun week away from my kids and I'd feel like shit about it) but I'm also going to feel shit when they come home talking about dad made the summer for them and how their dad will also feel so proud of himself that he done such a good thing for the kids YET he doesn't provide gmfor them in any other sense. I'm just sick of it and I'm so angry it's making my blood boil. He doesn't deserve to get to do this, in fact I'm actually shocked that he is this man. I never thought he'd leave me completely to fend for myself and our two miracle kids and then go on that he's such a help to me because of how much he wants to see his kids.

What would you do in this situation?

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NowItsMeMyselfAndI · 11/08/2024 15:40

I would definitely say no. Tell him if he can afford to treat the kids, he can afford to pay the maintenance. Say when he’s paid up to date then you can talk again. Also ask him for 50% of the uniform cost (why on earth is it £300?? Doesn’t the school sell second hand uniform?)

Do you know someone with a printer or an you get to a library easily? I would write an arrears letter and print multiple copies and post it through his door on a regular basis. Print a page of red-ink “ARREARS - urgent” labels and cut- and-paste onto the envelope. The letter should say “By your agreement to pay £30.00 a week for the upkeep of your children your are now overdue by … weeks and you owe £….. payable immediately. Your children need shoes, clothes, a warm and safe home and healthy food and by withholding maintenance payments you are forcing them to live in poverty.

I would mark probably also send a copy to his parents, if I knew where they were.

SauviGone · 11/08/2024 15:51

I get it, you just want to vent but not actually do anything about it.

Yes, send the kids to his for a week. That will save you some money.

You’re already enabling him, you not taking any action is part of how he’s getting away with this. So I guess as you’re not prepared to do anything else, the only way you’ll get any financial recompense from him is to save yourself some money by not having the kids with you as much as possible.

Send them to him with literally the clothes they stand up in, and nothing else. Not even a toothbrush. He can sort it all out. He’ll have to go clothes shopping at least.

xyz111 · 11/08/2024 17:29

SauviGone · 11/08/2024 15:51

I get it, you just want to vent but not actually do anything about it.

Yes, send the kids to his for a week. That will save you some money.

You’re already enabling him, you not taking any action is part of how he’s getting away with this. So I guess as you’re not prepared to do anything else, the only way you’ll get any financial recompense from him is to save yourself some money by not having the kids with you as much as possible.

Send them to him with literally the clothes they stand up in, and nothing else. Not even a toothbrush. He can sort it all out. He’ll have to go clothes shopping at least.

Agree with this. Op, you need to get tougher!!! Go through the official channels for child support. Report him to HMRC. He's getting away with it and you're letting him!!

Nsky62 · 11/08/2024 17:35

I understand you are angry, £6 is something, yes he’s crap, report him!

HamBagelNoCheese · 11/08/2024 17:44

Tell him he needs to pay for his kids reliably every week, or you'll put in a CMS claim and that they'll start to investigate why his lifestyle doesn't match his supposed income.

What an arsehole.

As an aside, are you claiming everything you are entitled to? I mah have missed if you said how old the kids are but most local authorities have funded holiday clubs/activities/days out available to those eligible for free school meals. Not helpful now but maybe worth investigating for next year if they're the age that would like that kind of thing.

Gonk123 · 12/08/2024 07:11

Next time he concedes he owes you money simply ask what are you going to do about it, be very direct.

Krumblina · 12/08/2024 08:19

ARaspberryberet · 11/08/2024 14:39

@Mrsttcno1 on a moral note I don't think I'd be the type of person to "report" him and he'll know it was me and that just causes toxic crap and essentially it'll affect the children if we are at logger heads which im really wanting to avoid. I know im essentially damned if i do damned if i dont

He's committing benefit fraud. Is that moral? I'm confused why it would be immoral to report him?
He won't know it's you. They don't say someone's reported you they just investigate.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 12/08/2024 08:27

I'm so angry on your behalf that this waste of skin can get away with this.

If it's any consolation, my father was a similar deadbeat and my mum had your attitude of facilitating contact and not bad mouthing him to me and my brother, and we both realised for ourselves he wasn't worth our time. Neither of us have spoken to him in over 20 years and our mum has all the credit for raising us. The long game is worth it.

Newbutoldfather · 12/08/2024 08:33

Don’t with old contact. It’s not good for the children and it is also a two way street. How stressed would you feel if he failed to return them?

Do put in a CMS claim. At least he will feel that he isn’t holding all the cards and you may get more than you expect.

I would be tempted to tell the children that you are effectively paying for everything (depending on their age) and that is how their father can be a Disney dad.

Other than that, I think you are doing the right thing in keeping the moral upper hand.

Newbutoldfather · 12/08/2024 08:34

Withhold contact..l

Gonk123 · 12/08/2024 11:52

Newbutoldfather · 12/08/2024 08:33

Don’t with old contact. It’s not good for the children and it is also a two way street. How stressed would you feel if he failed to return them?

Do put in a CMS claim. At least he will feel that he isn’t holding all the cards and you may get more than you expect.

I would be tempted to tell the children that you are effectively paying for everything (depending on their age) and that is how their father can be a Disney dad.

Other than that, I think you are doing the right thing in keeping the moral upper hand.

Absolutely do not tell the children you pay for everything! It’s not a game!

penguinonmybag · 12/08/2024 11:54

Report him to HMRC for the cash in hand work. Let the kids know that he's choosing not to support them financially

LakieLady · 12/08/2024 12:20

Mrsttcno1 · 11/08/2024 14:02

Let the kids go and have a nice time, they deserve it. Put a CMS claim in formally to get on top of things.

I was going to say this but if the DWP think his sole income is benefits, it would only be a few pounds pw. But at least you'd get the money, as they'd deduct it from his benefits.

If he's working and not declaring it, I'd report the fucker. And if he's actually living with his new partner and not declaring it, I'd report him for that as well. I'm not a benefit basher (far from it, I work in welfare rights), but people like him are the reason that so many people buy in to the whole DM "scrounger" myth.

ARaspberryberet · 12/08/2024 13:20

Gonk123 · 12/08/2024 11:52

Absolutely do not tell the children you pay for everything! It’s not a game!

No I refuse to put them in the middle. They are innocent in it all. I'm from a broken home myself, I know the repercussions it puts on the children if I start saying stuff like that and I point blank never will. They need to figure out for themselves when they are older how it only took their dad 8 weeks of leaving here to impregnate a woman almost 16 yrs his junior, after spending an entire lifetime with their mum from teens. I hope they see for themselves yes he was present in their lives but that was about it and I supplied what they needed even if it was the bare minimum that I could afford.

To people asking the kids are now 4&5 just.

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LinhMeo · 20/09/2024 15:45

I would report him as fraud
On benefit... working cash in hands and pay no tax...
Sound horrible

OnNaturesCourse · 20/09/2024 16:00

Don't outright say no to the kids going for the week... Don't be the "baddie" that he will make you out to be.

Do say to him - you owe X amount money and before you take the kids out for all these adventures on your week with them I would like that paid so I can back pay the cost(s) I have footed, for example the school uniform. He needs to understand essentials and bills need paid first before fun. He doesn't get to be fun dad if he's not being responsible dad.

If he then says I can't, I won't etc then say we'll unfortunately the kids will be not be coming for the week but you are more than welcome to come by and see them, or take them out to the park etc. Say it in a way that "if you can't afford to pay your half of the essentials then I don't expect you to get in more financial trouble by feeling like you need to take the kids out".

Make sure you put this all back on his side in every conversation and action you do. Don't withold the kids though, that why I say offer that he can come see them/go to the park etc.

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