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Riots vs community action

7 replies

Flossyts · 08/08/2024 09:41

I saw a video (guardian I think) where a woman was showing a part of Harehills. Run down. She was saying based on the kind of poverty she could see on the streets (that she believed the Tory government had caused) she understood the riots.

AIBU to think that we could generate some positive community action out of all this to clean up our streets? I have seen some positive news story about the clean up action post riots, but i mean more than this. I live in a nice area and people are often out voluntarily litter picking etc. What would it take to get people out positively improving our community’s (in the more run down places)?

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mytuppennyworth · 08/08/2024 09:44

We pay the council to clean the streets. Individual litter picking was quite helpful during lockdown, but really the council does it better and faster.

if you want to contribute to the community, then being a long term reliable volunteer in youth groups such as cubs, etc is a great thing to do

Flossyts · 08/08/2024 09:51

mytuppennyworth · 08/08/2024 09:44

We pay the council to clean the streets. Individual litter picking was quite helpful during lockdown, but really the council does it better and faster.

if you want to contribute to the community, then being a long term reliable volunteer in youth groups such as cubs, etc is a great thing to do

Isn’t that exactly the problem though - it’s someone else’s problem, someone else to blame therefore it doesn’t get done?

If everyone just took a little more care in their community, it wouldn’t look like it does. BUT it takes a community not an individual.

If social media can call people to arms to burn down hotels and incite hatred, what would it take to launch a positive action. Imagine the message that would send to kids.

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mytuppennyworth · 08/08/2024 09:56

Flossyts · 08/08/2024 09:51

Isn’t that exactly the problem though - it’s someone else’s problem, someone else to blame therefore it doesn’t get done?

If everyone just took a little more care in their community, it wouldn’t look like it does. BUT it takes a community not an individual.

If social media can call people to arms to burn down hotels and incite hatred, what would it take to launch a positive action. Imagine the message that would send to kids.

what doesn't get done? The council cleans the streets. Everyone pays towards that. It does get done. If you want to be useful then do something of real value rather than something of limited symbolic value

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 08/08/2024 10:08

Picking up litter isn't going to stop poverty,drugs, and crime. Making a rundown area look pretty won't solve any of the social problems.

People aren't rioting because their area is a bit shit, they're doing it because they believe everything that slimey wee prick Tommy Robinson says.

Ponoka7 · 08/08/2024 10:09

The problem is that there's as many people who will undo keeping it clean etc. I've seen it, you get deliberate vandalism. When you've had primary aged children create a garden etc and it gets destroyed, it's heartbreaking. We need good anti social laws that are upheld. Life is difficult for everyone in these areas and a minority shouldn't be allowed to make it worse. It's annoying when people in higher places make excuses. You see it on here, that no-one on low wages should be expected to do their job properly or well. Completely ignoring that it inpacts those who they work with and who use that service (all doing their best in the same income group). But austerity, benefit caps etc has plunged people into poverty and what you saw is part of that. I live in a more affluent area now and we get street cleaning and free community skips. We don't need them, were I used to live does though. They also need the charges for the green bins removing and a old job creation scheme.

Andthereitis · 08/08/2024 10:21

As with many communities across the world by empowering women you make the community better and wealthier.
Blocks include few jobs and then lack of child care. Things like poor transport infrastructure also don't help with the reality of life.

Happyinarcon · 08/08/2024 10:24

It’s a great idea. Australia has a national day where neighborhoods get together and lick up litter

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