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Final straw for friendship

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NoTimeForNonsense · 06/08/2024 17:21

I've distanced myself from a friend this year, after she treated me badly.

I have known her for almost 20 years. Our kids have been close (not so much now, but still good friends), we've been on family holidays with them multiple times, spent some New Years together. She's been very generous, such as bringing me lovely food when my DD was newborn and my DH was away with work, 40 presents on my 40th birthday, plus inviting us on holidays where we only had to cover our flights, as a few examples.

I am grateful for these things, but it's also led to some discomfort. She's got an anger problem, flares up at people and can be dismissive of people. She wants things done her way, and if they're not, she has no hesitation in letting you know, with no effort to hide her frustration. She tells off my DD in front of me for things that she lets her DS do with no repercussions. I've bitten my tongue A LOT over the years, as I've felt uncomfortable in setting boundaries or standing up to her, given her generosity.

A few months ago, I was helping at a full-weekend kids activity which she organised. There were about 20 kids there and several adults volunteering to help. She told me off for something she perceived I had done wrong, in front of several people, and later on several other people (who hadn't been present for the telling-off) commented to me 'wow, xxx is really unhappy with you' and comments along those lines - so she'd clearly been bitching and complaining about me after she'd stormed off. The thing I had done wrong is let some of the younger kids stay in their room and go to sleep rather than being forced to watch a movie when they were too tired - I stayed outside their rooms so they could find an adult if they needed one. Apparently that was wrong even though I'd told her I was going to do this earlier in the evening (one kid had been crying with tiredness) and she'd said 'I don't care' at the time. Another adult was with me throughout, so that wasn't the problem. The following day she was angry with me again for another apparent issue, which genuinely wasn't an issue - it involved someone being less than 2 minutes late (I'm not exaggerating) to meet the rest of the group because I'd said they could finish off an activity. She never apologised or thanked me for volunteering.

Since February when this happened, I haven't seen her socially. Our kids do a couple of the same after school activities (they're not at the same school) so I have seen her at pick up / drop off a handful of times (sometimes the DHs do it, so have been able to avoid for the most part). She's mentioned to a mutual friend that she thinks I'm upset with her. She's tried to make plans to meet up over the summer but I've been able to avoid due to work.

What should I do - have a grown up conversation with her to explain my reasons for distance, just let it go, send an email? I don't miss the friendship and feel the weekend in February was a 'final straw' in terms of not allowing myself to be treated badly. I hate confrontation and don't want a big showdown about it. I want to prioritise friendships that don't make me feel small.

OP posts:
ToothPickk · 06/08/2024 18:28

I'd drop her a message, summarising the above. And make sure you throw the last line in in the hopes it hits home of how she makes people feel.

TizerorFizz · 06/08/2024 18:42

@NoTimeForNonsense Just move on. No need to say anything. You don’t miss her. You don’t really like her - neither would I. So
just accept this has run its course. Who wants even more dialogue? You will just be drawn back in and made to feel small again. Why put yourself into this position. Enjoy life without her. The time has come.

Lupina12 · 06/08/2024 18:42

I think your clue of what to do moving forward is in the sentence “I don't miss the friendship”.

It sounds like she hugely lacks self awareness, and also is happy to elevate her own self-esteem/ego by publicly criticising you/others.

Does she fall out with other friends too? My bet would be yes.

Don't waste any more time in a friendship that has long ago failed to meet your needs.

The ‘generosity’ is a red herring. Buying things can never be the foundation of any relationship.

You don't owe her an explanation, I think going into detail criticising someone who lacks self awareness like this will not benefit her (or you!)

If you feel the need to communicate as to why the friendship is ended, you could always text/say something gentle like ‘i think we've grown apart as friends, I’m really busy at the moment’ kind of thing. If she wants, she can figure the rest out, but it’s not on you to do that for her.

Moving on from this former friendship makes space for other people to come into your life that better reflect your values, and who will raise you up - which is what we all really need isn't it x

Bastide · 06/08/2024 18:48

Your accepting her generosity has bought you in to a sort of devil’s bargain where her gifts and paying for your holidays has ended up with you feeling you had to ‘pay’ by not tackling her on her angry criticism. If that ever felt like a good deal, it’s clearly no longer one. It depends entirely on whether it would make you feel better to express your feelings to her or not.

AlwaysGinPlease · 06/08/2024 20:52

She bought your friendship and the price you paid was her treating you like crap. I'd end the friendship.

NoTimeForNonsense · 10/08/2024 09:39

Thank you everyone for your advice, it's really appreciated. The 'friend' has tried a couple of times to make plans to meet up. I've managed to dodge up till now with brief excuses. But now she's roped in a mutual friend (the three of us used to be housemates) to try and find a date for all three of us to go out. This mutual friend knows how I feel, but is now in very awkward position - I don't want her being stuck in the middle. I'm going to have to explain to the 'last straw' person that I have made a decision to distance myself, aren't I? Aaargh I have a deep discomfort with confrontation 😫

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 10/08/2024 09:46

No one normal ‘likes’ confrontation but it’s required sometimes and advocating for yourself will make you feel better and give you confidence.

It’s genuinely one of the most important skills you can learn.

Remain factual, unemotional, and stand your ground. You’ll feel a million times better and next time it will be even easier.

namechange128468 · 10/08/2024 09:50

I think if she wants a conversation to clear the air it’s on her to initiate it. She knows you’re distant - if she wants to resolve that or get closure she needs to talk to you, rather than about you to other people.

You’re happy with having quietly distanced yourself. If she’s not happy, she can take the necessary steps to try and sort it. You’re under no obligation to do anything further unless you actively want to.

HaveSomeIntrospect · 10/08/2024 09:52

I’m not sure I would tell her that you’ve made an active decision to distance yourself. I would do that only if I thought it would make her change or if I wanted to continue the friendship.

wht do you feel like you couldn’t say something at the time? Maybe something along the lines of “don’t talk to me like that”?

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 10/08/2024 09:58

You're avoiding her, and it sounds as if that's going to be hard to continue with in your friendship circle. She is still trying, since February. You've told a mutual friend, but not her, which puts MF in a difficult place. I think a grown-up conversation is necessary and would clear the air.

tsmainsqueeze · 10/08/2024 10:01

TizerorFizz · 06/08/2024 18:42

@NoTimeForNonsense Just move on. No need to say anything. You don’t miss her. You don’t really like her - neither would I. So
just accept this has run its course. Who wants even more dialogue? You will just be drawn back in and made to feel small again. Why put yourself into this position. Enjoy life without her. The time has come.

This is what i would do .

Legoninjago1 · 10/08/2024 10:02

TizerorFizz · 06/08/2024 18:42

@NoTimeForNonsense Just move on. No need to say anything. You don’t miss her. You don’t really like her - neither would I. So
just accept this has run its course. Who wants even more dialogue? You will just be drawn back in and made to feel small again. Why put yourself into this position. Enjoy life without her. The time has come.

This is the right attitude. Definitely.

juicelooseabootthishoose · 10/08/2024 10:07

Given her prior behavior whatever explanation you give will be twisted or refuted or shard with others incorrectly to garner sympathy or paint you in a bad light.

I would offer no explanation i do not feel she deserves one.

The mumsnet classic is valid here. No-is a complete answer.

In terms of the friend involved. Its on the offender to have made her feel awkward. I think you 'don't fancy it/are unavailable this summer/have a lot on'. If the offender wants to find out more its on her.

If she does, i'd say sth short and to the point and block on all platforms before she replies.

She isnt going to agree with your decision to distance yourself. But that ok and its brilliant you have boundaries.

alrightluv · 10/08/2024 10:40

I agree with moving on. She'll get the hint eventually. Mutual friend is an adult they'll be fine.

DuesToTheDirt · 10/08/2024 10:43

I would tell her why you're cooling off. It might be awkward, but I think it will help her to back off. You don't need to go into details, but it sounds like she has been a good friend in some ways, so I think some kind of explanation would be a good thing.

WhatNoRaisins · 10/08/2024 10:46

It doesn't sound like the slow fade would work if she keeps trying to make plans.

I think you need to tell her that you don't like how she treats you. Keep it factual, don't make it about her character but about how the behaviour is affecting you. That said I wouldn't put high hopes on this conversation, she'll probably still think she's the victim but at least you all know where you stand.

Brexile · 10/08/2024 10:55

She's acting like she's your boss, and a nasty one at that! You can either send a message then block her, or just block. Subtlety doesn't work with these bossy bulldozer types!

BMW6 · 10/08/2024 10:59

Just tell the mutual friend that you won't be going out with them as a threesome. Let the friendship stay dead.

Bobbybobbins · 10/08/2024 11:06

Given she won't let this go, I think an email with the facts and how you felt is a good way forwards.

Going forward, try to stand up for yourself politely a bit more at the time if you can- 'I don't appreciate it speaking to my like that' or similar. Obviously this situation was complicated by the long standing relationship.

Greytulips · 10/08/2024 11:11

Drop her a text

Hey, I’m too busy to meet up with X hope you both have a good time .

Then just block her on everything.

No need for explanations.

Fraaahnces · 10/08/2024 11:17

I think you need to send an
“I was hoping you would get the hint and not stoop to involving X. I had given you the opportunity to move on without forcing me to spell in out, but obviously you are not going to allow this to happen.
I’m not making excuses for you anymore. I don’t have the bandwidth to be with people who are rude, aggressive, controlling and humiliating and take no responsibility for the damage their behavior does to others.
Your behaviour at …… was the last straw. (Examples). I thought I was your friend, but I was your scapegoat. That is a role I never signed up to. I’m done. There’s nothing positive left. When you contact me I feel resentment and frustration.
I am also aware that you are smart enough to realise this already and I am even more resentful that instead of taking responsibility (in a timely manner) you are being manipulative and dragging X into the middle of something she has no part in. “

WalkInAStraightLine · 10/08/2024 11:18

DuesToTheDirt · 10/08/2024 10:43

I would tell her why you're cooling off. It might be awkward, but I think it will help her to back off. You don't need to go into details, but it sounds like she has been a good friend in some ways, so I think some kind of explanation would be a good thing.

I agree. I can't stand all the 'just block and ignore' advice on MN. People often don't know what they've done wrong or that they made someone feel like ending a friendship and it just prolongs the miscommunication with people assuming things rather than just communicating! And usually it's just because people don't want to feel uncomfortable by saying something rather than because that's the best way to proceed.

OP you're doing the right thing, perhaps something like 'after the 'weekend' I ended up feeling unable to spend time with you for the near future, so I'm not up for going out'. Brief is fine and once you've said it, don't feel you need to get into a conversation about it unless you genuinely want to.

Greytulips · 10/08/2024 11:23

Silence is more powerful.

The above full on explanation will be circulated to friends and in SM and OP will look like the bad guy and not be given an opportunity to explain .

Block and ignore - silent and dignified.

Createausername1970 · 10/08/2024 11:38

You don't need to do anything. Don't block her or send explanatory messages. Just get on with your life.

If she bothers to ask you directly if there is a problem, then you can tell her. But don't engage with second-hand whining via mutual friends.

musicforthesoul · 10/08/2024 11:39

It doesn't have to be a long drawn out conversation but if she's still trying to initiate meet ups months later I think you do need to say something. Send a text/email if you can't do it in person saying that her behaviour at the weekend activity upset you, it wasn't the first time and you want some space from her.

You may not want to reconcile with her (and I don't blame you) but I think you'll end up impacting your relationships with mutual friends as well if they get dragged into the middle. Easier to avoid that if everyone knows where they stand and no one has to tip toe around the situation.