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To think this is a REALLY weird thing to say?

60 replies

Sheabutter19 · 05/08/2024 18:19

My DD(4) and I were round at my grandads house. She took off her jacket and was doing around and he said ‘oh strip tease’ and laughed. AIBU to think this is really weird to say about a 4 year old GGD?

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whoputallofthatthere · 05/08/2024 18:54

BeyondMyWits · 05/08/2024 18:42

Probably generational, a bit of a laugh - you really don't think he was expecting a full burlesque act from a 4 year old?
My mum, dad, aunties, uncles, whoever would always do the "ta, da, da...de,da,da,da." music whenever anyone took off so much as a scarf.

Yep, my family did this too!
Without knowing the person who said it none of us can really say however it sounds like just one of those thoughtless, clumsy comments people make sometimes. My dad is famous for them but he doesn't mean any harm, he just doesn't think.

Newsenmum · 05/08/2024 18:56

Another one is “ooh the boys/girls will all be in love with him/her” and “what a heartbreaker, keep the boys/girls away” 🤮

Newsenmum · 05/08/2024 18:57

whoputallofthatthere · 05/08/2024 18:54

Yep, my family did this too!
Without knowing the person who said it none of us can really say however it sounds like just one of those thoughtless, clumsy comments people make sometimes. My dad is famous for them but he doesn't mean any harm, he just doesn't think.

Same!

Justcallmebebes · 05/08/2024 18:57

Couldyounot · 05/08/2024 18:54

Sounds quite noncey, doesn't it

It really doesn't! That is going too far

Newsenmum · 05/08/2024 19:02

Justcallmebebes · 05/08/2024 18:57

It really doesn't! That is going too far

BUT there will be the odd one who will start saying things like that to lure you in. It’s up to op to know.

ComtesseDeSpair · 05/08/2024 19:29

BeyondMyWits · 05/08/2024 18:42

Probably generational, a bit of a laugh - you really don't think he was expecting a full burlesque act from a 4 year old?
My mum, dad, aunties, uncles, whoever would always do the "ta, da, da...de,da,da,da." music whenever anyone took off so much as a scarf.

Another one whose family have always done this!

There are strip tease scenes in a lot of older cartoons popular with children decades ago such as Micky Mouse, Tom and Jerry, Daffy Duck etc. What people thought was suitable to do and say and show around children has changed enormously since your grandfather was young.

5128gap · 05/08/2024 19:33

ComtesseDeSpair · 05/08/2024 19:29

Another one whose family have always done this!

There are strip tease scenes in a lot of older cartoons popular with children decades ago such as Micky Mouse, Tom and Jerry, Daffy Duck etc. What people thought was suitable to do and say and show around children has changed enormously since your grandfather was young.

Yeah, my family too.

PiIIock · 05/08/2024 19:39

Newsenmum · 05/08/2024 18:56

Another one is “ooh the boys/girls will all be in love with him/her” and “what a heartbreaker, keep the boys/girls away” 🤮

I feel like these are two entirely different kinds of comments.

Agree with others that this sounds like thoughtless sarcasm. Also interesting to hear about cartoons, because that's how it feel to me. I really doesn't sound like it was a sexual comment, but this MN so everything needs to catastrophised. Has anyone suggested going NC yet?

Cantrushart · 05/08/2024 19:45

FIL talks about my DD getting 'tarted up'. 😬

EG94 · 05/08/2024 19:46

If you think there is no memory decline or anything else at play. Have a word and remind him this is not appropriate to be saying to or around a four year old.

i remember my great grandad asking my 7 year old cousin if she was going to be a call girl when she was older. My cousin, what’s a call girl? My aunt quickly interjected put both thumbs up and said a cool girl. 😂😂 I don’t know wtf went through his mind.

he always had a little rhyme that for years he didn’t get to finish. Mary had a little lamb, she also had a duck. Mary couldn’t leave them alone as all they’d do is “GRANDAD NO” 😂😂😂

fatphalange · 05/08/2024 19:49

A strip tease. Like what strippers do. A woman paid by men to remove all their clothes for men's sexual gratification. Of course it's disgusting.
Some people will bend over backwards to defend pervy old relatives.

If I got to a ripe old age and it was suggested I didn't realise what I was talking about and infantilised, and my language likened to 'cartoons' I would feel fucking patronised unless of course I was in the stages of dementia, which the OP hasn't mentioned!

PiIIock · 05/08/2024 20:03

fatphalange · 05/08/2024 19:49

A strip tease. Like what strippers do. A woman paid by men to remove all their clothes for men's sexual gratification. Of course it's disgusting.
Some people will bend over backwards to defend pervy old relatives.

If I got to a ripe old age and it was suggested I didn't realise what I was talking about and infantilised, and my language likened to 'cartoons' I would feel fucking patronised unless of course I was in the stages of dementia, which the OP hasn't mentioned!

It's honestly not that deep. Inappropriate, sure, but I'm sure grandad isn't suggesting 4 year old Olivia really should be a stripper shooting up heroin etc etc

fatphalange · 05/08/2024 20:07

I don't think so, either, @PiIIock but that is what he is talking about. It seems ridiculous because it is. A 4 year old child isn't doing a strip tease. (not sure what drugs have got to do with anything)

Izzynohopanda · 05/08/2024 20:10

I wouldn’t think anything of it.

bouncybouncingboobies · 05/08/2024 20:13

Totally normal behaviour for his generation. Be thankful we live in a different world now. I grew up in 70s. It was a bleak time to be a teenager. It was a very anti women time

Marchitectmummy · 05/08/2024 20:38

BobbyBiscuits · 05/08/2024 18:30

Striptease is clearly adult women titilating men, and he knows that. Deeply inappropriate.
Make sure he knows as well. I don't think it means he's a paedo or anything but it's just off.

It sounds wrong it the modern world but I can remember people saying are you striping off, and using steiptease etc growing .up. I think in the context of the age its innocent.

pinkfluffymonkey · 05/08/2024 21:19

BeyondMyWits · 05/08/2024 18:42

Probably generational, a bit of a laugh - you really don't think he was expecting a full burlesque act from a 4 year old?
My mum, dad, aunties, uncles, whoever would always do the "ta, da, da...de,da,da,da." music whenever anyone took off so much as a scarf.

My family too!

Different times I think. The humour was different and what was acceptable in the 60s and 70s wouldn't be acceptable now.

I couldn't get worked up about it. I'm sure he didn't mean anything sinister by it.

DH laughs at some of the things I come out with. I realise then how they sound to a third party!

nougatcougar · 06/08/2024 00:33

Yeah gross, but I do remember the people of my nans generation (born around WW1) saying this and cackling a lot. Bawdy working class east end humour I guess. My mum & dads generation hopefully know better but I do think they just parrot phrases they heard growing up without really thinking about it.
Could you wrinkle your nose and say "ugh, grandad. Weird"

missb10 · 03/11/2024 15:21

Not appropriate these days, but they grew up in a different era. But I think they knew the difference between having a bit of a laugh and paedophilia. My grandparents did anyway.

Makingchocolatecake · 04/11/2024 22:25

This thread makes me think of the dance at the end of Little Miss Sunshine 🤣

SleepToad · 04/11/2024 22:43

You have to remember that it's a completely different generation. If you went to the panto until quite recently the dame would do a mock strip accompanied by the stripper music.

stripping jokes were often a part of 70s tv comedy. I've an Andy Capp cartoon book why flo, Andy's wife is getting a bath in a tin bath in front of the fire, he's shouting get it off...then put it on, put it on...that was written about 1980

corlan · 04/11/2024 22:49

Makingchocolatecake · 04/11/2024 22:25

This thread makes me think of the dance at the end of Little Miss Sunshine 🤣

Was just thinking the same 😁
I'd say it's a generation thing rather than anything creepy. Sort of thing my Mum might have said as a joke

fairfat40 · 04/11/2024 22:56

My mum is 82. She doesn’t have dementia, but her social skills are definitely fraying and will say the first thing that comes into her head. And yes the striptease thing was massive in the 70s.

mrlistersgelfbride · 05/11/2024 00:14

I think it's just weird older generation jokey stuff.
He probably didn't think it through.
I don't think it's anything too pervy.
Unless there's a back story or other concerns I wouldn't worry.

ReadingGladys · 05/11/2024 00:31

God, this thread has reminded me that aged about 10 a friend and I made a video of ourselves doing a “funny” pretend striptease as part of a history project (?) with the gag being we had our swimsuits on and gave the tape to our (male) history teacher. Totally our idea and supported by our parents. How weird is that?

But I think the whole idea of a striptease then had an alternative set of connotations- Morecambe & Wise (this was 20y before), the da-da-da music- it was all treated as a bit of a joke. Obviously completely inappropriate now but I wouldn’t assume he meant anything other than a silly joke.