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Would you consider 25k a year a low income for a single person?

65 replies

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 10:19

Outside of London.
It's not even 25, it's 24.8k.

This is for a single person living alone.

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TinyYellow · 03/08/2024 10:21

Not particularly low, no. But your post needs context.

Lj8893 · 03/08/2024 10:22

its relatively low yes. But depends on what the salary prospects are, how likely will that increase?

Mrsttcno1 · 03/08/2024 10:24

I wouldn’t say it’s really low but it is relatively low if that has to fund 100% of a house, bills etc it would be tight.

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 10:24

We are due an increase of up to £70 per month after tax, but it could be lower.

I think it's relatively low if you want to live in a flat or home, not a houseshare or bedsit.

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Twinklefloss · 03/08/2024 10:25

Well, yes, it pretty much works out to the national minimum wage annualised doesn’t it? It was what I was on 25 years ago and I lived in a flat share - would have been tough living alone on that then, even more so now.

Changingname1988 · 03/08/2024 10:29

It depends completely on your outgoings, particularly housing costs. I lived alone and paid my mortgage, household bills and to run a car on £19k in 2021. However my mortgage was low and my house was small, so bills were lower. I didn’t have any other debt to service. That is also prior to the huge increases in bills and food over the past couple of years.

Whether a lower than average income is enough or not really does depend on your essential costs.

Bloodyredface · 03/08/2024 10:31

Yes, I would.

blackcatsarethebestcats · 03/08/2024 10:38

I would, yes. I earned this in my mid 20s and it wasn’t loads even living in a house share.

ViciousCurrentBun · 03/08/2024 10:43

It is not high but context is everything. What age and stage of life are you ?

My friend has an income of about this and is close to retirement but she has paid off her mortgage.

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 10:46

Mid 30s, mortgage and bills comes to just under 900 a month.

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ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 03/08/2024 10:49

It depends.

I live in an area where you could get a small house or flat on that wage.

it also depends what you do and hours. Part time entry level admin - it’s a good wage. Full time mid level management and it’s not.

Prawncow · 03/08/2024 10:52

As someone has said, minimum wage on a 40 hour week is £23,795 so you’re on £1k pa more than minimum wage.

JC03745 · 03/08/2024 10:55

If it was my 1st job after school/uni, it would be ok as a starter. Mid 30's, I was on nearly 3x that, so yes, I would say its low. BUT- your lifestyle, mortgage, expenses will be very different to mine when I was that age. I was also in central London.

Are you struggling financially on that wage? Could you take in a lodger? Any career options to earn more?

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 10:56

My mortgage and all bills, CT, service charge etc. Come to £900 ISH a month.

The remaining £825 is for savings, credit card repayments, food, transport, toiletries, phone bill, gym, medication, clothes and anything else.

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titchy · 03/08/2024 10:59

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 10:46

Mid 30s, mortgage and bills comes to just under 900 a month.

So presumably you're managing then? And you're on the property ladder which is great. In which case it's ok.

Unless you're very highly qualified / skilled and working a 60 hour week (junior doctor, criminal barrister) in which case it's awful. But if you're only educated to GCSE level and it's an unskilled job (carer, retail) it's reasonable.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 03/08/2024 11:01

I think it’s crap.

I was earning 19k with a car at 25 in 1989.

That was fairly normal.

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 11:02

I manage by sticking to a very tight budget, buy everything cheaply and not a lot of holidays.

No option for overtime as it's been scrapped.

Can't take in a lodger as I have a very small 1-bed flat.

So I'm looking for higher paid roles.

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HonestMistake · 03/08/2024 11:08

I'm sure it's tight, but if you've got a mortgage rather than being at the mercy of the private rental sector then that's a start, especially with interest rates coming down.

Would you be able to pick up a weekend shift doing bar work or whatever?

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 11:10

Honestly I've worked 6 days a week before and I just don't feel like you should have to be taking on a second job to survive.
It's no fun having just 1 day off every week, not a long-term solution.

I have to examine people's bank statements as part of my job and there are people younger than me making 5 times my salary.

It's better to just look for a higher paid job and not have to count every single penny.

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Startingagainandagain · 03/08/2024 11:16

I would say that it is low.

I earn about £29K - £30K a year as I can only work part-time due to health issues.

Like you I live on my own. I am finding it really tight and have little left after I pay the bills/mortgage/council tax.

I manage but it is not ideal so I can see how difficult it would be on £25K.

HonestMistake · 03/08/2024 11:20

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 11:10

Honestly I've worked 6 days a week before and I just don't feel like you should have to be taking on a second job to survive.
It's no fun having just 1 day off every week, not a long-term solution.

I have to examine people's bank statements as part of my job and there are people younger than me making 5 times my salary.

It's better to just look for a higher paid job and not have to count every single penny.

Oh definitely look for a better paid job.

But casual weekend work might help in the short term. A lot of people do have a side hustle of some sort to make life a bit more comfortable: surveys, tutoring, babysitting, cat feeding.

spikeandbuffy · 03/08/2024 11:21

That's what I earn, single. My main bills are

Mortgage 395
Service charges 190
C tax 130
Water 25
Gas and electric 100
Car insurance 42
Internet/netflix/now as a bundle 52

Then the stuff like food, car tax, petrol, cat food etc
My luxury is I pay a peloton which is £39pm and £16pm for netball

Apolloneuro · 03/08/2024 11:21

Geraldinefox · 03/08/2024 11:10

Honestly I've worked 6 days a week before and I just don't feel like you should have to be taking on a second job to survive.
It's no fun having just 1 day off every week, not a long-term solution.

I have to examine people's bank statements as part of my job and there are people younger than me making 5 times my salary.

It's better to just look for a higher paid job and not have to count every single penny.

Do it then. Get a higher paid.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/08/2024 11:22

It would surely depend a great deal on housing costs locally - they can vary a lot.

qotsa · 03/08/2024 11:24

You can get degree level apprenticeships on about that salary. Do you have A levels, is that an option? Obviously you put in the work, and study as well for 3/4 years but then there is a huge salary increase at the end when you pass.