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To think this is overkill (Huw Edwards)

287 replies

BeachParty · 03/08/2024 03:08

Don't get me wrong, what he did was heinous.
I don't care how or why you got pics on your phone. 🤢😡. 😥

https://deadline.com/2024/08/doctor-who-episode-huw-edwards-removed-bbc-iplayer-1236029881/

Deleting all reference from someone from fictional shows though seems a bit 😕
It's a character, it's not the real life person.
If we started deleting everyone with problematic/disgusting views, would we be left with any art at all?!

'Doctor Who' episode 'Fear Her' removed from iPlayer after featuring Huw Edwards

‘Doctor Who’ Episode Featuring Disgraced Presenter Huw Edwards Removed From BBC iPlayer To Be Redubbed

The BBC has removed from iPlayer a David Tennant episode of 'Doctor Who' that features Huw Edwards, the disgraced news anchor.

https://deadline.com/2024/08/doctor-who-episode-huw-edwards-removed-bbc-iplayer-1236029881

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Livelovebehappy · 03/08/2024 08:22

Scarey that a high percentage agree with you. Paedophile sympathisers live amongst us it seems. Even on MN, a platform for mothers.

nervouslandlord · 03/08/2024 08:24

Oh come on @BigFatLiar the images Edwards is reported to have received are Category A. You can Google it. Awful. We're not talking pics of kids splashing in a bath sent to grandma.

And unsolicited dick pics aren't ok either in case you wonder where I stand on that.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 08:26

Removing him from everything and everywhere is precisely what needs to be done. As a society we are indicating that men like this can not continue to make money once convicted of this kind of depravity.

I am glad to see plaques being removed, his face removed from everywhere in honour of his child victims that have to live day in and day out with the terrible horrific crimes inflicted on them.

Who on earth has voted YANBU?!

Those that sexually abuse children and circulate the content and harm can expect to feel the full wrath of society.

LlynTegid · 03/08/2024 08:26

I agree with removing him from this show. If nothing else may stop him getting repeat fees, as I doubt he will be in prison for the rest of his life.

PadstowGirl · 03/08/2024 08:27

It's just virtue signalling from the BBC. If they really cared about child protection they wouldn't have given him a £40k pay rise, whilst he was suspended.
As far as I'm concerned enough is enough, the BBC needs scrapping. How they have the gall to collect for children in need is astonishing.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 08:27

Livelovebehappy · 03/08/2024 08:22

Scarey that a high percentage agree with you. Paedophile sympathisers live amongst us it seems. Even on MN, a platform for mothers.

I notice that too, constantly, I doubt too many of them are 'mothers'. You go on any thread and it is littered with the sympathisers, and if you consider what our forum is mostly all about, then that is why they are. Some even try to convince us that it is okay to stay with these types of men etc etc. It is sickening.

cathyandclaire · 03/08/2024 08:28

@BigFatLiar @Ponkpinkpink15
It is a crime to receive images- but there is a potential defence if you receive unsolicited images and delete them quickly.

Huw Edwards pleaded guilty and did not attempt to use this defence, why was that? He also didn't block Alex Williams and continued to chat to a man that he knew possessed and supplied images of CSA. This is not an innocent victim receiv

To think this is overkill (Huw Edwards)
Asherrain · 03/08/2024 08:29

FFS stop with the peadophile apologiser/sympathiser nonsense littering this thread. You literally can't have a reasonable debate on this topic on here.

MamaGarl85 · 03/08/2024 08:29

Of course he will be saying now he asked them not to send the images!

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 08:29

cathyandclaire · 03/08/2024 08:28

@BigFatLiar @Ponkpinkpink15
It is a crime to receive images- but there is a potential defence if you receive unsolicited images and delete them quickly.

Huw Edwards pleaded guilty and did not attempt to use this defence, why was that? He also didn't block Alex Williams and continued to chat to a man that he knew possessed and supplied images of CSA. This is not an innocent victim receiv

More tellingly he did not at any time report Williams to the police, which would have provided a very good defence.

Lavenderfields121 · 03/08/2024 08:30

This wasn’t done to condemn his actions. It’s an attempt of the bbc to distance themselves from Edwards to save their own face. Not sure why everyone believes that this was done for moral reasons.

alldayeveryday247 · 03/08/2024 08:30

@BigFatLiar

If your friend sends you a picture of her kids having fun in the bath you could also be convicted. If you have pictures of your children could also be dodgy, depends on the police's view at the time.

Your children sending pics to each other could be am issue. Some boy sends your daughter a dick pic, she's commited an offence simply by receiving it.

It's a bit of a minefield.

Bit less of a minefield in his case though mate, considering the category A images of children under 9 that he received, didn't report (and continued to engage with the sender to receive pornography) were of them being raped. Don't you think?

How ridiculous to even vaguely compare this situation to a picture of kids in the bath. Unbelievable.

Definition below for anyone who doesn't know what a category a image is:

"Category A is the most severe, and includes images that contain penetrative sexual activity, sexual activity with animals or sadism."

MamaGarl85 · 03/08/2024 08:30

If he was in any way innocent, he would have reported the sender to the police straight away and made every effort to block this person!

thecatsthecats · 03/08/2024 08:31

It's a rubbish episode anyway.

But this is why I have kept DVDs of all my very favourite series - in case a minor bit part actor gets cancelled and takes out an important plot episode. I can't remember HE's role in this episode, but I don't think it was large. Fortunately nothing else of significance to the wider plot happens.

CwmYoy · 03/08/2024 08:32

You cannot rewrite history.

People can choose to watch or not watch something with someone they find deplorable involved. We are grown ups and don't need to be nannied.

Dylan Thomas was a wife beater. I still love his poetry. Life isn't simple sometimes.

Bill Wyman admitted to sex with an underage girl. I still listen to the Stones.

I understand those who don't but adults should be allowed to make up their own minds.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 08:34

Ponkpinkpink15 · 03/08/2024 07:50

@dayswithaY

it is NOT being a child abuse apologist to think it's overkill to remove an episode of a long standing tv program because someone did a background voice on it!

You are an apologist pure and simple.

We do NOT want to hear his fucking voice, we do not want to see his fucking face anywhere.

He knowingly continued communicating and receiving images of CATEGORY A images of children as young as seven being sexually abused and tortured.

If we ever see him again it will be a day too soon.

And 40 images is a HUGE amount of abuse and evidence. Have you considered how the victims of that abuse feel about it?

Gifgaf · 03/08/2024 08:35

God forbid, if you had kids and found out someone had the most degrading level of indecent photos of them on your phone. Would you still want to see their face on TV or any show ? He is a pedophile and it's a good shout from the BBC to do that. More disturbing to think how many more of them are there that we watch daily on our screens.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 03/08/2024 08:36

OhshutupNancy · 03/08/2024 06:05

Is this the same BBC that carried on paying him a fortune after he had been arrested and they were aware of the charges?

And here's the OTT. Another juicy stick to beat the BBC with for those who don't actually give one for justice. Being arrested and charged doesn't make you guilty.

sashagabadon · 03/08/2024 08:36

I also think it’s a mistake. He’s all over the Queen’s death announcement footage plus numerous other historically significant events. Are they going to remove them too?
I would argue those things don’t belong to the BBC they belong to the nation as they are our collective history.
BBC being idiotic again

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Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 08:37

CwmYoy · 03/08/2024 08:32

You cannot rewrite history.

People can choose to watch or not watch something with someone they find deplorable involved. We are grown ups and don't need to be nannied.

Dylan Thomas was a wife beater. I still love his poetry. Life isn't simple sometimes.

Bill Wyman admitted to sex with an underage girl. I still listen to the Stones.

I understand those who don't but adults should be allowed to make up their own minds.

I disagree given it is the TAX PAYER that has been funding Edwards in particular.

If you want to support paedophiles and listen to them, that says more about you, perhaps raise the bar? Your standards are gutter level.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 03/08/2024 08:38

SSpratt · 03/08/2024 05:08

The BBC should be consistent. They’ve got The Thick of it (Chris Langham, same offence as Edwards) back on iPlayer.

Totally agree. Loved the thick of it when I watched it recently but when I saw Chris Langham I was like “wait wasn’t he found to be a nonce?” Husband was said yeah and that’s why the character disappeared suddenly.

HE literally only had a cameo in that episode of Dr Who seems overkill to remove it completely, especially if they’re going to continue showing all
episodes of things like the thick of it. Which I think they should because it’s brilliant.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 03/08/2024 08:38

MamaGarl85 · 03/08/2024 08:29

Of course he will be saying now he asked them not to send the images!

I'm not defending him in anyway, he shouldn't have been involved in that conversation, shouldn't have continued it, should have reported images if he was really horrified like anyone decent would have been.

But he isn't saying now "oh but I said not to send them", that is literally what was written in the messages that the CPS have. It's not in doubt that he said it.
I agree though that saying it and then continuing the conversation is disgusting, and doesn't suggest a huge amount of sincerity in terms of actually not wanting certain images.

Marblessolveeverything · 03/08/2024 08:39

I am shocked by the minimising of a paedophile. Normal people don't ignore photos of children being abused. These were not photos that could be explained away, they are often the most serious categories.

As a survivor of SA I am disgusted and feel violated again by the excuses and minimising on this and other threads. No wonder so many of these vile people get away with it.

And to those references to David Tennant you are equally vile to conjecture his support to his child to sexual child abuse and I would consider it defamation and or slander, disgusting and so disrespectful to SA survivors. How dare you equate them, your hate id gone so far you don't have self awareness left. I hope action is taken swiftly against you.

summerdazey · 03/08/2024 08:40

Rummly · 03/08/2024 07:15

Ah, what a good explanation. Thank you.

IIRC there’s a statue on Broadcasting House by Eric Gill, now known to have been a paedophile. The BBC doesn’t have much luck in that department!

It's coz these sickos are everywhere

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