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Annoyed with the office cleaner

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VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 11:12

Here’s a thing:

I've suspected for some time that our office cleanerr sits and dozes / charges his phone / eats his breakfast in my chair. I’ve never quite caught him but I’ve often ‘surprised’ him ‘suddenly cleaning’ when I've walked in earlier than normal (I'm a late person). My office is an easy choice – comfy, fan, phone charger ready plugged in on my desk. He will have noticed I’m rarely in before 9.30 and he can listen out for people coming in and out. In fact, as I’m above the front door, you can hear people arriving as the door slams shut.

He's been caught out in the past by leaving his breakfast on my desk, and coming back for it. Apologetically.

My colleague once nearly caught him in another office, so it's a known thing amongst us that this happens.

Yesterday there were some ear buds in a case on my desk. Barely anyone else here this week and nobody would want to sit here anyway, as they all have their own comfy offices. So I was pretty sure they were the cleaners. Wondering what to do / and wondering what he would do, I put them in my desk drawer while I thought about it. That was yesterday. This morning they’ve gone. This means he’s come in looking for his earbuds and has opened my personal drawers in my desk. These contain my personal effects – medication, spare underwear, receipts, personal letters and cards. I can't lock the door of my office or of my drawers. We're a pretty low-security establishment and trust one another.

In addition: we have a very narrow entrance to our building (which is part of a group of buildings, which are all serviced by an external company). He has taken up residence at the foot of the stairs. Eats his lunch there. sits on the stairs having loud conversations on his phone. We have to literally climb over him to get in and out, including when we have visitors.

I've always found this highly annoying and inappropriate but my colleagues don't seem to mind and tolerate it and I don't want to be the office bitch. The bloke is bussed in with a load of others from goodness knows where, at the crack of dawn, probably on the minimum wage and probably not well treated. There must be a common room where his colleagues hang out, but he seems to prefer our stairwell. Maybe they bully him, and he just wants some peace and quiet. So, I don't want to ruin things for him but he's crossed a line.

He speaks barely a single word of English, so I can't even have a gentle chat with him (or I'd have done it by now). The only way to communicate is via his boss. I suppose I could use Google Translate and leave him a note:

"Please do not take rest breaks at my desk, and do not open my drawers"

I don't want to scare him, though, or I'll end up being the one in trouble.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Offcom · 02/08/2024 11:20

Order some lockable storage for your office and put your phone charger in it at the end of the day

Catza · 02/08/2024 11:32

When you say you can't lock the door, what do you mean?

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 02/08/2024 11:39

What would I do? I’d leave him alone. Sounds like he has a shit life.

VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 11:40

@Catza I can't lock my office door and my desk drawer doesn't have a lock. He has a key to the building as he comes in early to clean, and then comes and goes at various points during the day to use us as his rest room.

tbh, there's nothing (spare knickers aside) worth stealing. It's just the invasion of my space and the cheek of opening my drawers that pisses me off. But I don't want to get him into trouble. Just don't want him to do it any more.

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VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 11:41

@AGodawfulsmallaffair -- you think it's ok for him to sleep in my office chair and look in my drawers? I think we've already cut him quite a lot of slack.

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Green777 · 02/08/2024 11:42

As long as he leaves it tidy, get over it.

VerityUnreasonble · 02/08/2024 11:45

He shouldn't take breaks in your office (if he is) and he shouldn't really look through your drawers. But you did effectively hide his earbuds so I guess he wouldn't have looked through your drawers if you'd just left them out on your desk at the end of the day instead of putting them in your drawer.

Sounds like he has a pretty shitty job and while irritating for you, unless it's really causing you actual problems I'd probably just let it go.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 02/08/2024 11:45

Did you BUY the office chair?

jannier · 02/08/2024 11:46

He's bussed in and doesn't speak much English all contact is with his boss ......doesn't sound very legit I'd be worried he's being exploited and trying to find out more sod my desk.

cupcaske123 · 02/08/2024 11:48

I wouldn't say anything OP and I wouldn't leave anything in the office that I didn't want to lose, given the lack of security. I'd also be concerned that he wasn't being exploited.

VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 11:48

I find it really irritating coming into my office and knowing that someone has been having breaks at my desk. It's not a hotdesking type of place, it's very much an individual space (as are all the office and desks in this small organisation). And I have a lot of personal belongings around. Not valuable but personal nonetheless. And he still doesn't seem to notice the dust on the desk and never hoovers under the desk. Empties the bin and that's about it.

I'm all for workers' rights and respect, but he's not showing much respect to me.

OP posts:
Berga · 02/08/2024 11:53

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 02/08/2024 11:39

What would I do? I’d leave him alone. Sounds like he has a shit life.

Absolutely this.

OP you're equating him looking for what are probably valuable headphones to him with him rifling your stuff but you put them in your drawer to test him. You are putting his job in danger because you are a bit irritated. If you like, go in a bit earlier for a few days and he will get the message. But he really isn't hurting anyone. Do you really begrudge him a breakfast in a lovely office, maybe the only bit of peace he gets?

CadoAvo · 02/08/2024 11:54

Bussed in at the crack of dawn with others, probably on minimum wage (if that), hardly speaks English, probably not treated well....these are all signs of modern slavery/human trafficking.

Also you're annoyed because you put his earphones in your desk drawer and he went in to get them back?

Tagyoureit · 02/08/2024 11:54

Well he's there to do a job and clearly not doing it. That needs to be addressed.

Having his lunch break on the stairs is not an option, it looks unprofessional and it's a trip hazard so he needs stop doing that.

But if it's a small office and he cleans in the morning, why is there long enough to have lunch?

HamSad · 02/08/2024 11:56

CadoAvo · 02/08/2024 11:54

Bussed in at the crack of dawn with others, probably on minimum wage (if that), hardly speaks English, probably not treated well....these are all signs of modern slavery/human trafficking.

Also you're annoyed because you put his earphones in your desk drawer and he went in to get them back?

This. He isn't breaking into your home OP. Stop taking it so personally, it's just work.

user1471556818 · 02/08/2024 11:56

Well get some cleaning wipes and wipe your desk .
Stop hiding his stuff in your drawers that's just mean especially as he's likely to have very little money .
Two wrongs here he shouldn't have opened drawers but you shouldn't have hidden them.
Ask who employes the cleaners are they getting min wages .Getting bused in always sounds dodgy imo.
Pop your stuff in your drawers when you finish work and get some locks on your desk if that makes you feel better.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 02/08/2024 11:57

jannier · 02/08/2024 11:46

He's bussed in and doesn't speak much English all contact is with his boss ......doesn't sound very legit I'd be worried he's being exploited and trying to find out more sod my desk.

Ye it does sound a bit "modern slavery" tbh

Pretty sure people being bussed in and not speaking English is something to look out for

This should be your bigger concern OP

Watchkeys · 02/08/2024 11:58

Is your office meant to be yours and yours only? Are your drawers meant to be personal and private? If so, complain to your boss. If not, don't put anything personal there, and complain about any inadequate cleaning.

Sounds like you think that the desk you use at work each day in the room you use at work each day belong to you. They don't. And if they did, your boss needs a word with his boss.

VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 11:59

@Tagyoureit - when he finishes with us, he goes off with his team and they do various other cleaning / maintenance around the place. So I think he has his morning nap/ break at my desk and his lunch on the stairs. Which is where he also has loud conversations and watches the football. I think he likes his own space, which I get, but it's a bit of a liability in a number of ways.

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DreadPirateRobots · 02/08/2024 11:59

It's not actually "your" space though, is it OP. It's the company's space which you currently have the use of because of your job. And if the company doesn't provide you with private lockable space like a locker then they are sending you a pretty clear message that the space isn't private and you shouldn't keep stuff that you consider "private" in it.

Buy your own lockable box for your office and put stuff you want to keep secure in it.

bananaboats · 02/08/2024 12:00

I'm surprised at the comments on here his behaviour is completely inappropriate & I'm surprised you've let it go on as long as it has! His personal situation is not your responsibility.

VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 12:00

Yes, my office and my desk and my stuff. quite old-fashioned, but that's the way it is. It isn't a particularly nice office but it is homely. For me.

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VerySweatyBetty1 · 02/08/2024 12:00

@bananaboats - thank you!

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MrsSkylerWhite · 02/08/2024 12:01

So your complaint is that he takes a break from work to eat his breakfast?
Does he do his job?
Leave the poor person alone. He’s probably been cleaning for hours by the time he gets to your desk.

JMSA · 02/08/2024 12:01

What would I have done?
Hand him back his earbuds and not stash them in my desk, in an obvious attempt to catch the guy out.