To think descendants of slave owners should visit former plantations?

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Particularly if their family still has wealth earned through the atrocities of the slave trade and slavery?

For example, Laura Trevalyan visited former plantations in Grenada and met with local people to understand the role her ancestors played in the slave trade. She was so moved by this that she is now sponsoring education initiatives for those affected.

A 2010 BBC News article reported that 2,600 migrant women were trafficked into the UK for sexual exploitation during a 12-month period. This figure was based on a report that estimated that 17,000 of the 30,000 women involved in off-street prostitution in England and Wales were migrant women, and 2,600 of those were trafficked.

I wonder if in 200 years time their descendants will visit the UK and hear stories of where these women are working and how someone eventually put a stop to it.

If they want to, then they will do so.

If they don't want to, then they won't.

I'm not really sure what else there is to say.

Vieux chapeau.

Japan hasn’t acknowledged the extent of its WW2 atrocities. For every official apology there is another half arsed one and a visit to the shrine of war criminally. Meanwhile most normal Japanese don’t think Japan did anything particularly bad or exceptional compared to the fighting expected in a war (also reflected in their school curriculum).

I agree.
But no one should profit from the sins of the father either.

I dont want to go that far back. Could someone get my cousins to pay me my share as my grandparents gave all inheritance to their son, leaving their daughter out of it because she is a woman and responsibility of her husband. Sadly my father was a gambler and left us poor. Now on top of it my mum had a disability, whereas my mum's brother was in a very well paying job and sent his kids to very expensive private schools, I feel my cousins unfairly got massive advantage over me. But they think being children of a male child, it was their right. Can we atleast solve this social injustice as it's not even that old?

I can see more of a case for more honest history curriculums (curricula?).

I remember being taught a bit about the slave trade but it was made out to be more the US being behind that. I knew almost nothing about colonialism until I was well into adulthood. It's like we were only taught history with the UK as the goodies.

I don't consider myself responsible for any sins of my forebears. That said, if I did have any profits from plantations where slaves were mistreated, I might still feel I'd like to do something - if I were wealthy directly because of it. I'd probably consider the ongoing impact and start some relevant scholarships or something. I still wouldn't feel personally responsible or like I owed apologies though.

However, I don't have any past connection to slavery and I'm not wealthy. So moot here.

I was amazed to learn that some black people in the Caribbean also had black slaves. Where do their descendents go for atonement?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · Today 09:46
MrsSkylerWhite · Today 09:19
I’m a descendant of a slave and their owner. Where does that leave me 🤷‍♀️

Pay yourself £50

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Because average Japanese back then was more of a victim. They paid more than they got for multiple generations from nuclear weapons used in two major cities. What is your background that you are demanding apologies from Japanese? Are you a virue signalist?

Had?

In sub saharan African countries today in 2024 there is slavery. Black slave owners are all good right? It's still happening

Yemen reintroduced slavery : again who cares about them right.

Let's just get at the whites for what their ancestors did.

It is widely accepted 'learn your history' with the idea this stops you making the same mistakes. I heard a war reporter disputing this and saying actually we should forget our history, remembering it just continues wars and resentment between communities down through the generations for hundreds of years.

It wasn't even a crime at the time. Do you want to punish people retrospectively for things that were legal and common place? If you did want to do that, they're dead anyway. You're being selective about which 'crimes' you want to retroactively punish innocent people for. I hope you've looked into your family tree several hundred years back and repented for your original sins.

Yes, I know that slave markets, in there very traditional form, people paraded around in a ring to be bid on, still exist in parts of Africa. Or at least did in the 90s, I don't know about now. There was a quite controversial charity at the time who used to buy and free people sold as slaves.

Oh give it a rest and pick up a world history book!

I've got Viking DNA in me , possibly through one of my ancestors bring raped . So do I ask the Danish Government for compensation? Where is this madness going to end ?

Or the Viking bit could actually be a Norman. My granny had a surname which is a typical Norman name. I think that's where my Scandinavian DNA comes from.

Why don't people focus on modern day slavery instead focusing on the past . The past is gone , all those people are dead and gone . Why not focus on the living slaves,and focusing their energy and doing something about that .

In Africa there were Black people helping the White slavers .

You realise there's other people in the world than what you've listed? I hope your genetics is as good as your geography and physics! And I don't think everyone in Africa has Viking genes even though I don't study genetics.

There were many industrialists who made fortunes exploiting the working class people (like my ancesters) in this country who have handed down their fortunes through the subsequent generations.

Should they tour abandoned coal mines and cotton mills?

Here's a profound thought. Sometimes 'paying it back' can actually just mean an acknowledgement and/or apology. Rather than a justification of why something was ok or doesn't matter 🤷🏼‍♀️ worth having a think about

That's already been done. I think compensation £££ is what's some people are after