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… Should I take this job?

41 replies

NameChangeForParis · 30/07/2024 12:58

Hey all. Long time poster, name change for this.

I’m looking for a new job. I’ve been offered a remote role, by a company based in Paris ~ however they have made it clear they would prefer me to move to Paris and be in the office 1/2 days a week. In return, they will up the offered salary, relabel my role from ‘head of’ to C-suite, and offer a chunky signing bonus/relocation help. It’s a rapidly scaling company, and included the possibility for this role to move to C-suite within 12 months in the job ad anyway, so it’s not a huge surprise.

I’d normally throw this back and start my search again, but I’ve found myself imagining life in Paris (I’ve never lived abroad) and am really considering it. I never did Uni/Gap years and now really regret it. I’m asking for advice here because my family are very dramatic and all hell will break loose if I mention this before I’ve made up my mind 😂

Additional things to consider:

  • I have DS, 4, who doesn’t speak French. After crunching the numbers I could swing a private international school, or intensive lessons. He’s very outgoing and popular, and finds it easy making friends who don’t speak the language when we’re abroad etc.
  • I don’t speak fluent French, but I do okay. The company will pay for french lessons, and operates in English anyway (most of the team is distributed across the EU)
  • DS dad is not on the birth certificate and doesn’t want to be involved so this isn’t a consideration. We’re close to my family, but they are not massively helpful re childcare etc, I rely heavily on outside help and this would continue.

So… am I being unrealistic? If you’ve made this kind of move, please tell me the pros, cons and things to think about!

YABU - don’t move, you’re crazy!
YANBU - do it, you only live once!

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circular2478 · 30/07/2024 13:52

Sounds an amazing opportunity. I'd go for it. I've friends who moved to France/ Spain with similar age kids and they went to local schools and picked up the language so quickly. If you're not paying school fees it would free up more money for other fun things to do.

roses2 · 30/07/2024 13:53

DaisyChain505 · 30/07/2024 13:50

What an opportunity. Go! Maybe ask if they’d throw in school fees or some towards to seal the deal! If you don’t like it you come back.

Definitely ask for this!

SuperGreens · 30/07/2024 13:54

Your son will be in école maternelle until he is in his 6th year, which is basically preschool and a great opportunity to learn French before 'proper' school starts. Good state pre/schools are typically better in Paris than private ones, which are usually religious (catholic). This is great community to find about more about being an English speaking mum in Paris: www.messageparis.org/

qotsa · 30/07/2024 14:22

Oh wow. I would be there in a shot. Go for it. You only live once. Perfect age for a child learning a language too.

JC03745 · 30/07/2024 14:38

Another one saying go for it. Its so close to the UK, that a weekend trip back isn't a ridiculous prospect.

We moved abroad as a child and it was brilliant.

Some other things to consider:

  • If you currently own your own property, I'd rent it out, so you have somewhere to return to when/if needed
  • How much do you currently rely on family for childcare? I have no idea about after school provisions in France, but as a single parent, I'd want to find out
  • MN have a thread for French speakers. You could ask on there (in English) about ex-pat sites, recommendations etc too.
ShennyInfinity · 30/07/2024 14:44

As an ex military wife with 3 daughters, we travelled all over the World, albeit the girls always went to English military schools and if you decide to go I'd opt for an English school, they'll teach French anyway. The job itself sounds amazing and as another poster said, you're only 35 minutes away on the Eurostar. My girls loved the places we lived in and made friends easily, they went to places they'd probably never visit. Don't miss this amazing opportunity.GO!

PrincessNannie · 30/07/2024 14:50

I actually live in France and love it but things to thing about. I presume you are English so your company will need to organise a visa for you and provide you with health insurance. After 3 months you can apply to join the French Health Service (which is fecking excellent). However it could take months to join so ensure your company will continue to pay your private insurance during this time.
once you have joined the health service and received your “Carte Vitale” you will need top up insurance as the government only covers 70% of the cost of health the rest is covered by top up insurance (a mutuelle). I pa y 100€ a month for 2 people but we are old and there are much cheaper ones out there.
Having said the Health care is amazing there is a shortage of GP’s so find a doctor especially in Paris can be quite hard.
A four year old will pick up the language no issue. My friends sent their child to an International School for 6 months and then decided it was way better to send the, to the local school and bring them up bi-lingual.
France is actually more expensive than the UK to live. Petrol is around €2, electricity is eye watering. I use the cauliflower index - last week in the supermarket a cauliflower was 4.99€.
Rentals are expensive especially is Paris and it is actually more difficult to rent than buy. I have seen people hand in 4 inch thick dossiers (the French love a doissier) for rental. Make sure your company help you find somewhere.

That said I would die to spend a few years living in Paris. Go for it just make sure you are aware of all the issues. If you PM me I can give you some facebook sites that will provide lots of information like “Mums in France”.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 30/07/2024 14:59

Do it.
I was thrown into a French speaking school at age 4, and was fluent quickly.
49 years later, largely lived in the UK, I still am.

PumpkinPie2016 · 30/07/2024 15:28

Another vote for go!

It will be a brilliant experience for you and your son!

At 4, he will quickly learn the language and make friends.
Paris is a short flight away for family visits.

Please let us know what you decide!

Huifen · 30/07/2024 15:30

100% go - your DS will benefit in many ways - put him in local school he will learn French super quick. I moved around the world with my DC a lot till the eldest was 10 - it was brilliant for all of us.

MadeForThis · 30/07/2024 15:32

It sounds like an amazing opportunity but make sure the salary covers the cost of living there. Paris is ££££.

NameChangeForParis · 30/07/2024 16:08

Thanks all for the tips! I’ve been Googling and daydreaming of Sunday morning croissants all afternoon 😂

Financially we’ll be okay, not loaded but we’re used to London prices so I think that will help! Thanks for the suggestions and prompts - childcare is definitely something I’ll need to dig into more detail for. Will look at all resources shared. Thanks again - especially for allowing me to believe this is possible! ✨

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Movinghouseatlast · 30/07/2024 17:21

Paris is so easy to get to, it's less time than getting to parts of the UK. Your son will learn French easily at his age so you are gifting him being bilingual which really is priceless.

I worked in Europe for 3 years and really enjoyed being part of a different culture

PenguinCounter · 31/07/2024 13:12

I'd go. I lived there for a few years and loved it. Local private school were quite cheap at the time. I just checked and the school my kids went to is now €1,405 per year and €1,015 for their lunche. The menus used to make me laugh with what sounded like an elaborate three course meal- i learned the word Jerusalem artichoke from it, I hadn't even seen one until I was in my 20s!

One thing to look at is what you need to do on Wednesdays. It's usually a day off for children. We hired a university student as a nanny and she used to do the pickups at 4pm -6pm for four days and the full day on Wednesday.

Upthejunctionandroundthebend · 31/07/2024 15:35

How is it 35 minutes from London??

RubberyChicken · 31/07/2024 22:56

Rookie93 · 30/07/2024 13:30

Go, what an amazing opportunity for you both. Paris is only 35 minutes away from London by eurostar so you & your family can still be close depending on where you and they currently live in the UK. My elder sister spent a year in France as part of her teaching degree (modern languages) and took her dc with her. She loved it and the dc still speak French well many years later. Think it's a fabulous chance.

I don't think paris to london is only 35 minutes on the train, more like 2 hours 20 minutes

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