To support nurses and teachers who strike over 5.5% pay offeroffer

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When the junior doctors were awarded 22%?

£1290 based on a 52 week, 37.5hr week.

Most support staff in schools work 25-30hrs over 38 weeks.

Then take off tax, NI, and pension and it will work out at possibly £40 a month?

Also if you are claiming Universal Credit then you lose 63p in the pound making the increase only worth 27p for every additional £1 earned.

But still significantly more than 2%. Likely if the TA earns 12,000 it is a 10% rise.

Increase only worth 27p for every additional £1 earned.

So 27% more than you earned per £1.

1290 / 52 = £24.80 (weekly)
24.80 x 38 = £942.69 (average school year)
£942.68 / 37.5 = £25.14 (full time hours)
25.14 x 25 = £628.50 actual increase before deductions on school day hours
628.50 - tax, NI and pension (estimated) = 502.80 annual
£502.80 / 12 = £41.90

UC reduction of 63p in £ = salary increase of £11.31 a month.

Nowhere near a 10% rise!!

What is you annual wage?

Why should I tell you that? My point is that it is hardly a pay rise, once you factor in inflation and the retail price
index it is a pay cut in real terms.

If i'm honest i'd rather forgo my 5.5 percent pay rise and allow elderly people in need to feel warm(er) this year.

All the financial announcements today are utter, ill thought out, stupidity. Anyone who voted for this madness hopefully is getting what they deserve. The rest of us (quite a lot of us based on vote share) are just suffering the hopefully, short lived, ride.

Give nurses 5.5 percent and doctors 22 percent sure. But it won't make many of them stay when they're even more over burdened this year with elderly people.

Because then I can calculate what % rise it is.

Your point is you included extra like UC and pension into your rise to make it look smaller. If you take your annual wage and as a % of that we can see what the rise is. Guaranteed it is not 2%.

And so it starts. As night follows day.

Teachers won't be striking. There's zero appetite for it.

I’m band 6 and take home around £1850 after deductions 🙃 I’d strike again in a heartbeat!

Support staff didn’t get £1290, that was the FTE awarded.

The calculation @Biscuitandacuppa showed was pretty accurate.

Edited…
My LA calculated it over 44 weeks, not 38.

What the poster that you’re replying to is saying is that for a full-time wage £1290 is much higher than a 2% payrise for most people as you’d have to be earning £64500pa for it to only amount to 2%. And naturally, the pay award is pro-rata’d for part-time people - why do you think it shouldn’t be?

Also, the UC taper hasn’t been 63% for over a year so your figures are wrong there. It’s 55%.

Oops, makes it £18.90 instead. Now I can afford so much more!

So full time support staff are on 60k? Give over! 1290 is never 2% of a TAs wage.

Support staff what will they get? Is this a line off payment or is it each month?

If you earn 13 grand will it now become 14 grand?

Are you FT? I'm only midpoint band 5 and I get £1898 after tax/NI/student loan & parking, yours seems very low!

Is that fulltime?

Not much more than a band 4 take home pay!

Bit early doors. Possibly in five years we might all be saying the same but it's not even been five weeks. No-one is ever going to be satisfied - especially if they have already decided that they didn't want Labour to form a government but I'd be tempted to wait before casting judgment.

Teachers on M1 would only be earning £1650 more a year so there isn’t a massive difference between their rise and the £1290 rise for TAs? So surely the %rise can’t be massively different?

Quite.

Of course I expect it to be pro rata, it was a pp that seemed to think it wasn’t, that’s why I did a break down.

Support staff still receive the lowest pay award of all local authority staff and also are paid the lowest wages.

TA pay rise is pro rata, see my pp. The £1290 is based on 52 week full time hours. Therefore the actual amount received is lower.

Well, that’s a 67% increase on what you’d worked it out to be.

But it isn’t £1290!!! It’s pro rata!