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Just us girls for 5 days

101 replies

Onceiwassevenyearsold · 24/07/2024 22:30

Dh is going away next week, I’ll be home alone with Dd, 6. We live abroad, so no family around, but will see friends two of the afternoons.
Any ideas what we can do for girly times together?

OP posts:
S0livagant · 25/07/2024 14:37

Yousaidwhatagain · 25/07/2024 14:32

Agree, it's clear what op meant. What's her favourite things to do op, look to see if there's any events in your area. Are you close to London? A special high tea, day out in London?

Thr OP says they live abroad. But why London out of the whole of the UK? High tea for a small child? She should be making mud pies and daisy chains.

Mrsjayy · 25/07/2024 14:39

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 11:17

Yes facemasks etc are for adult women but some girls like to imitate their mothers and do the same thing and they shouldnt be shamed for it.

Its bonding and relaxing too not all about looks

Yes this, I know pampering is seen as frivolous and vapid by some and little girls should be rolling in mud and climbing trees like the boys but it's just bonding really if the mum is into it then there is no real harm imo.

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:03

Mrsjayy · 25/07/2024 14:39

Yes this, I know pampering is seen as frivolous and vapid by some and little girls should be rolling in mud and climbing trees like the boys but it's just bonding really if the mum is into it then there is no real harm imo.

I don't think it's a 'little girl' thing though. Like high tea is not for small children. A picnic with a teapot and little tea cups is more for children. Or making a wild crown or a wand or daisy chains.

Yousaidwhatagain · 25/07/2024 15:14

@S0livagant clearly you have never been to one that is catered for kids. 🙄I've even taken my ds to one who loved it and was thrilled to fill up a bag from the candy cart.
And why London? Because there's a million things to do there. I just missed the bit about op being abroad. You are just rude.

Fudgetheparrot · 25/07/2024 15:15

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:03

I don't think it's a 'little girl' thing though. Like high tea is not for small children. A picnic with a teapot and little tea cups is more for children. Or making a wild crown or a wand or daisy chains.

Is high tea not pretty much “a picnic with a teapot and little teacups” just indoors?

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:16

Mrsjayy · 25/07/2024 14:39

Yes this, I know pampering is seen as frivolous and vapid by some and little girls should be rolling in mud and climbing trees like the boys but it's just bonding really if the mum is into it then there is no real harm imo.

Where did you get the idea that rolling in the mud and climbing trees were for boys?

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:17

Fudgetheparrot · 25/07/2024 15:15

Is high tea not pretty much “a picnic with a teapot and little teacups” just indoors?

You don't need to pay extortionate prices for small children to just play at something with some teddies.

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:18

Yousaidwhatagain · 25/07/2024 15:14

@S0livagant clearly you have never been to one that is catered for kids. 🙄I've even taken my ds to one who loved it and was thrilled to fill up a bag from the candy cart.
And why London? Because there's a million things to do there. I just missed the bit about op being abroad. You are just rude.

Yeah, I haven't. I don't have more money than sense.

RabbitsRock · 25/07/2024 15:19

DD loved building dens at that age, indoors mostly. We got very creative!

Whatabonkersworld · 25/07/2024 15:28

Wow, I can't believe the the nastiness and negativity in this thread. There are posts here that people should be ashamed of.

A mother wanting to bond with her daughter for some girly time together is to be applauded. Good on you @Onceiwassevenyearsold !!

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 15:29

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:16

Where did you get the idea that rolling in the mud and climbing trees were for boys?

Because as soon as anyone mentions a girl doing something traditionally feminine loads of people say why is she not rolling in the mud and climbing trees.
So that sort of perpetuates the idea that feminine stuff is rubbish and climbing trees is cool and masculine

LostTheMarble · 25/07/2024 15:30

GreyCarpet · 25/07/2024 10:36

Perhaps have a ‘no reason’ party/playdate with 3-4 of her friends as Dad isn’t around to be stressed by it

Fucking hell.

You know, I read so much on here about men and their weaponsised incompetence (not that it's something I've ever encountered in real life) and now I see it's partner in crime.

Weaponised infantilisation.

Yes this. That was much worse than the OP’s use of ‘girly time’ and ‘tomboy’ - which I personally don’t get either, but I have boys and have falling into a couple of ‘stereotypes’ along the way. I am learning to enjoy Roblox with them though, always happy to give whatever they’re playing a go if they need help. Otherwise is outdoor play or films, they like helping out with cooking (see making a mess with flour) and a shit-ton of Lego. But I loved Lego as a little girl so again not much help to the op 🤣.

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:31

You can pretend to bake a cake from mud or make a fairy crown or wand from things you find in nature. Fairy doors on trees etc.

Polythene · 25/07/2024 15:36

Are you anywhere near a (quiet) beach? Go there just as the sun starts to dip and have a little stroll. If there's a chippery nearby all the better.

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:47

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 15:29

Because as soon as anyone mentions a girl doing something traditionally feminine loads of people say why is she not rolling in the mud and climbing trees.
So that sort of perpetuates the idea that feminine stuff is rubbish and climbing trees is cool and masculine

I'm with the 'let kids be kids' crowd. I hate all this division between the sexes which seems to be so much more pronounced.

However I completely agree with you that anything considered feminine is seen as weak and frivolous. I also don't like calling girls 'tomboys' as though there are girl and boy things.

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 15:55

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:47

I'm with the 'let kids be kids' crowd. I hate all this division between the sexes which seems to be so much more pronounced.

However I completely agree with you that anything considered feminine is seen as weak and frivolous. I also don't like calling girls 'tomboys' as though there are girl and boy things.

Its all over this thread too. Mother asking about 'girly time' with her daughter for bonding and people attack.

I am all let kids be kids too. But girls to tend to like some girly things. I was called a tomboy and also made fun of for liking girly things too. (Its like i am a whole human being and have a wide variety of interests)

So people shit all over the "girly" stuff rather than letting their girl enjoy some of it.

But if it was a boy enjoying the girly stuff it would be celebrated.

OMGsamesame · 25/07/2024 15:58

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 08:27

I'd have loved this sort of thing. Shopping, nails or face masks would have been my worst nightmare! Depends on the child and their sex is irrelevant.

Edited

This too (shopping for some new clothes would have been OK actually).

But my best bonding experiences with my mum came from having adventures together (whether it was an adventure for me like going to a grown-up cafe for a cake) or for her, or for both of us. And same as an adult! Backpacking together, learning to windsurf, exploring.

GreyCarpet · 25/07/2024 16:04

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 15:29

Because as soon as anyone mentions a girl doing something traditionally feminine loads of people say why is she not rolling in the mud and climbing trees.
So that sort of perpetuates the idea that feminine stuff is rubbish and climbing trees is cool and masculine

But playing on mud and climbing trees are also traditional girls' past times.

I certainly did them as a child.

It's only the past couple of decades that activities have become so divided in terms of sex.

When my son was a young child, he enjoyed having his nails painted and playing at the make up counter in Boots and he had toy kitchens and baby dolls as did my daughter but it's still depressing that face masks, nails and shopping are still some people's go to activities for daughters. No one would have suggested those things if the child was a boy and there are some people who are unfathomably upset that other people have suggested alternatives.

HorsesDuvets · 25/07/2024 16:07

I think YABU, as do most others it seems.

Mrsjayy · 25/07/2024 16:09

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 15:03

I don't think it's a 'little girl' thing though. Like high tea is not for small children. A picnic with a teapot and little tea cups is more for children. Or making a wild crown or a wand or daisy chains.

I was just trying to point out that there isn't anything wrong with girls wanting nail polish or whatever with their mums if that's what they are into, so women think this Is vapid.

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 16:10

GreyCarpet · 25/07/2024 16:04

But playing on mud and climbing trees are also traditional girls' past times.

I certainly did them as a child.

It's only the past couple of decades that activities have become so divided in terms of sex.

When my son was a young child, he enjoyed having his nails painted and playing at the make up counter in Boots and he had toy kitchens and baby dolls as did my daughter but it's still depressing that face masks, nails and shopping are still some people's go to activities for daughters. No one would have suggested those things if the child was a boy and there are some people who are unfathomably upset that other people have suggested alternatives.

Yes I climbed trees and covered myself in mud too.

Why is it depressing that shopping, nails etc is a go to activity?

I know because people view anything feminine as vapid.

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 16:11

CynicalSunni · 25/07/2024 15:55

Its all over this thread too. Mother asking about 'girly time' with her daughter for bonding and people attack.

I am all let kids be kids too. But girls to tend to like some girly things. I was called a tomboy and also made fun of for liking girly things too. (Its like i am a whole human being and have a wide variety of interests)

So people shit all over the "girly" stuff rather than letting their girl enjoy some of it.

But if it was a boy enjoying the girly stuff it would be celebrated.

But if it was a boy enjoying the girly stuff it would be celebrated.

Completely agree. As soon as something is taken up by a boy, it's somehow validated and worthy.

RobertSalamander · 25/07/2024 16:11

S0livagant · 25/07/2024 08:27

I'd have loved this sort of thing. Shopping, nails or face masks would have been my worst nightmare! Depends on the child and their sex is irrelevant.

Edited

I loved nails, face masks etc AND getting dirty in nature etc 😵

FourToTheMFingFloor · 25/07/2024 16:13

Urgh, the faux'I don't quite understand girly times as a phrase, are you quite sure that's what you meant dear' is so fucking cringe for you all who are at it.

Either answer the question or find a thread you can lend your approval to 🤷🏻‍♀️

CatamaranViper · 25/07/2024 16:15

Ignoring all the arguments on the thread, OP DS and I end up having what he calls "mummy and me days" and we have a whole bunch of favourites:

  • Den building using cushions, sticks, tables, chairs, blankets etc
  • Building assault courses in the garden (if it's not raining)
  • He tries to learn a new skill and will then teach me (usually a football trick)
  • We bake but he leads and I just do the hot bits
  • Pampering. I buy hair chalks, make facemasks, paint nails.
  • Disco, I try and show him songs from when I was a kid and we have to all the actions
  • Movie night with homemade pizza and 'cocktails'
  • Board games
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