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How can I tell if I have an internal monologue?

232 replies

Barrol · 23/07/2024 18:21

I learned recently from my teen that ~ 30 to 50% of people don't have an “inner voice.”

I’m sure I do. As I type I hear my voice in my head. But am I just assuming I can? I’m confused. So maybe I am in the minority of people who don’t have an inner monologue. When I read I say it a loud in my head I think.

Please can anyone familiar with this topic elaborate.

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Adviceneeeeded · 30/07/2024 15:49

Ah yes the sheep. Nope, can't see them either. I can Kind of imagine them if I'm awake and eyes open. But I think I'm more describing to myself what they should look like. I think that's the best way to describe it for me.

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/07/2024 15:58

Yoyooo · 23/07/2024 18:30

I wonder if there is a correlation between internal monologues and mental illness or anxiety. I have a constant inner monologue and often worry or feel anxious or paranoid. My partner doesn't have one and doesn't suffer with any of those and is a lot more chilled than me.

I read you're more likely to be neurodiverse/ASD if you have an inner monologue.

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/07/2024 16:00

greenwoodentablelegs · 23/07/2024 20:16

No internal monologue and no anxiety here!

recently my brain has been completely empty, due to meditation and cutting out stressors. I have to think to think of things. It’s quite nice

This is me.

No inner voice and my head is just empty and quiet lol

Bumply · 30/07/2024 16:56

I have an internal monologue in terms of reading involving an internal voice reading along at the speed of speech, and "must do this next" commentary that happens in my head at times.

I can switch it off whenever I want and then there's silence, or rather a realisation that the white noise hum I hear these days when it's quiet is tinnitus.

It's why I find meditation boring as the "empty your mind" step is instant and then I'm wondering what's supposed to come next.

wellington77 · 30/07/2024 17:01

This astounds me, in order to think a lot of the time I’m talking in my head to myself, how do these non internal monologuers do it?! Are they just in pure silence, so odd !

almondflake · 30/07/2024 22:04

@thaegumathteth lol yup , I've been told that people actually see things , my daughter and partner can see pictures in their heads . My partner tells me that he can picture our holidays like films when he closes his eyes and my daughter can see places and people she knows .
Try as I might I just can't see anything with my eyes closed 🤷‍♀️ .

almondflake · 30/07/2024 22:05

@Adviceneeeeded I'm exactly the same , I know what things look like but I can't see them like others do .

thaegumathteth · 30/07/2024 22:06

almondflake · 30/07/2024 22:04

@thaegumathteth lol yup , I've been told that people actually see things , my daughter and partner can see pictures in their heads . My partner tells me that he can picture our holidays like films when he closes his eyes and my daughter can see places and people she knows .
Try as I might I just can't see anything with my eyes closed 🤷‍♀️ .

This has blown my mind. I honestly didn't think this is what people were growing.

thaegumathteth · 30/07/2024 22:06

Doing not growing ffs

almondflake · 30/07/2024 22:08

@thaegumathteth I know what you mean , I only found it out this year through Facebook , I went round asking people what they could see when their eyes were closed lol .

TheBirdintheCave · 30/07/2024 22:35

PhillipMontyTomato · 25/07/2024 22:43

I was thinking about this as I loaded the dishwasher earlier. Obviously I wasn't talking to myself saying, "pick that fork up and put it there...". Though I must have been thinking in order to make those kinds of choices.

However as soon as I began to reflect on what I was doing those thoughts of me thinking about what I was thinking about (metacognition?) were in English. As I am not actually speaking this can be much faster than speech.

I wonder if we are all doing a similar thing and we just interpret it differently.

I have no internal monologue. I tend to vocalise my actions.

'Right. Now I have to go and water the plants. Eugh, I hope the slugs haven't eaten them again.' Etc.

My husband always thinks I'm talking to him 😂

PorkPieForStarters · 30/07/2024 22:42

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/07/2024 15:58

I read you're more likely to be neurodiverse/ASD if you have an inner monologue.

That's interesting, I wondered if there was any correlation.

I have ADHD and my mind chatters away most of the time, I actually think it's why I'm good with my own company - I keep myself entertained😄

I've asked quite a few friends and the ones who are diagnosed/suspected neurodiverse all have internal monologues. Most can also visualise things in their mind too.

I can't imagine what it must be like to have a quiet brain, I'm not sure I'd like it!

TheBirdintheCave · 30/07/2024 22:51

@PorkPieForStarters I'm autistic without one. Most other autistics I know are without internal monologues too.

Superlambaanana · 30/07/2024 23:06

Seriously folks are you saying you do not think? So if you sit in silence you don't think to yourself? You just switch off like some weird robot doll?

PorkPieForStarters · 30/07/2024 23:12

ScamanthaBrick · 24/07/2024 09:03

The way I’ve explained it to people before is that it’s all subconscious. The same way that people with an internal monologue/voice don’t hear “now I’m going to lift up my right leg and move it forward, then the left leg, right, left” when they walk - it would be impossible to think about everything you’re doing at once (“I’m breathing in, I’m breathing out”?! 🤣)

All my thoughts are like that. They’re abstract. I don’t know what I’m going to say before I say it. I form opinions in the background as it were. Not only is there no voice/music/sounds inside my head, there is no stream of thought. They just come and go without me being aware of them.

I can’t understand how it works having your life narrated in your head - surely unless the voice is very very fast, you’d come across as being very slow in your actions? Like “now I’m going to put the kettle on” - are you standing there doing nothing for the 3 or so seconds it takes to state that thought in your mind? I’ve never seen people behaving like that so that can’t be how it works, so what is it like?

For me, I don't narrate or everything I'm doing but I might think and hear my own voice in my head saying "OK, I'll just stick the kettle on and I'll empty the dishwasher while that's going", but I don't hear things like "lift up the kettle, take off the lid, turn on the tap, fill the kettle, turn off the tap, put the kettle down, switch the kettle on" etc. Maybe it depends on how familiar a task is to me, I'd say it's more abstract most of the time but sometimes it helps me plan things.

I think some of my thoughts are subconscious, like I don't always know what I'm about to say, but if I've been trying to put my thoughts in order during a conversation, I might have an idea of what's coming. Planning what I'm going to say never works though, I stumble on actually saying it out loud, so I just let it come organically.

Mine is mainly just chatter, really, like having a friend you natter away to. I do hear that at my normal talking speed. Some thoughts, I'm conscious of but don't hear them.

It's so weird and fascinating isn't it, I love that everyone has their own experience!

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/07/2024 23:16

I've always had multiple layers of thoughts running in my head, but only 1 or 2 strands at a time are in words - and that didn't start to develop until my mid to late teens. Before that they were just 'thinks' - can't really describe them. So arguably before that point I didn't have an inner monologue as such. But I certainly didn't have the 'not thinking' experience some people have described

Never had any level of anxiety, they aren't stressed thoughts most of the time. Just thoughts. Chatter about what I'm doing, pondering the origin of words or steps in evolution, counting, making observations about things around me, writing a poem or an email, remembering bit of history or books or past conversation, planning a DIY project. Can be anything at all. Often I'll get a word-based earworm as well.

The word layer is slower than the thinks, so I have to pause and loop the thinks sometimes while the words catch up if both are dealing with the same thought strand.

Occasionally the words do something a bit unusual. Recently I had Werner Herzog as guest narrator for a couple of days.

PorkPieForStarters · 30/07/2024 23:23

TheBirdintheCave · 30/07/2024 22:51

@PorkPieForStarters I'm autistic without one. Most other autistics I know are without internal monologues too.

Oh that's interesting! Perhaps more linked with ADHD then.

Imagine if having an inner voice was all that was needed for ADHD assessment. It'd cut NHS waiting times dramatically!

TheBirdintheCave · 30/07/2024 23:30

@Superlambaanana I think, but my narration is out loud. I don't think 'I'd better empty the dishwasher' I say it, even if no one else is there.

As a PP said my thoughts are abstract not word based. Not sure how else to describe it.

whiteboardking · 31/07/2024 00:09

Comedycook · 23/07/2024 18:27

I have an inner monologue. I don't actually hear my voice but it's kind of an ongoing conversation between me and me

This is me

whiteboardking · 31/07/2024 00:13

Hadjab · 23/07/2024 18:54

My inner monologue is essentially a whole personality of her own. We have full blown conversations, such as advising each other on what to wear (usually the same outfit, funnily enough), what to eat, etc.

No, I don't have any mental health issues 😁

Love this. Mine are just full blown conversations with myself

whiteboardking · 31/07/2024 00:15

Gettingbysomehow · 23/07/2024 21:47

I wish my inner voice would shut up.

Seriously me too

MeouwCat · 31/07/2024 00:22

This is something that I often ask myself

MeouwCat · 31/07/2024 00:25

I carry around a small toy cat and project one of me onto the cat and then disucss with the cat "Small cat, how many lengths shall we swim today? 20?". Small cat is such a taskmaster and wants 24.

Ozzyskye · 31/07/2024 00:59

Having read the thread, I don't know if I have one or not!

When I type or read I definitely hear a voice. If I've read a book (I don't do it that often as I get super into it and will read a whole book in a day so don't have time often!) I might find myself narrating my actions in the style of the writer for then next few hours, but not on a daily basis.

At night when I'm trying to sleep is probably when my brain is "noisiest" but this tends to be snippets of conversations that don't really form a narrative (when I was younger I thought it might be my brain processing any conversation I had heard but not listened to iyswim - like in a crowd...) or images - I have to focus to notice them though or they're in the background and I start thinking without realising.

I am a very visual thinker - so if I'm recalling a conversation I get an image of what I was looking at when it happened.

DH says I have an external monologue. I fill silences constantly, I also often hve to explain my train of thought and how one topic leads to another (usually based on images like above IE: "I saw Sally on wednesday" - image of sally wearing a blue jumper when I saw her, followed by "don't forget about my mums too" - because i left a blue t-shirt at hers and I need to collect it, but poor DH can't see my thoughts and has no idea I've left it there or that I need to get it because I want to wear it to an event so I'll then say "what time are we leaving at the weekend by the way". So mentioning seeing Sally has gone through 3 thought transitions by the time I finish a sentence. But I won't have necessarily thought about, and I definitely haven't had a voice making the connection in my head, I've just had images of sally; blue jumper; my mum's living room; a calendar and the destination we are going to (or the people we are going with).

WhichEllie · 31/07/2024 01:57

I think in a combination of language and visualization. So usually a monologue plus corresponding imagery. Sometimes I’m thinking about one subject using language and another subject using imagery at the same time. When I read I do both, so I see and hear the dialogue of the characters as I imagine them but the narrative is in my own monologue voice.

The only times they fall silent and I’m just living in the moment, as it were, are when I’m riding, surfing, or encountering a wild animal. But even then my mind is in absolute overdrive, just in a different way. I can remember every single detail and piece of sensory input from those moments, even years later.