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British kids and eating habits - IABU ?

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lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:17

I have two young kids and we live in the UK but we are not originally from here.

At home we cook everyday from scratch our food and we take that food at a lunch box at our workplace. We have a light dinner again made from scratch.

The issue is our kids which are of course going to school/nursery and they love to copy their friends!

In the UK it's healthy if a kid eats sausages (god knows what the meat has inside), or for example Heinz baked beans which have 10% sugar and 20% salt (leaving 70% being actual beans) or if they eat fish fingers which are pre-fried (even if you bake them they were already fried before got frozen) or chicken nuggets (again pre-fried which god knows what was the oil quality).

It's also acceptable to drink juices which have no sugar but plenty sweeteners.

Also, it's perfectly fine to have a ham sandwich for lunch which has ready made processed bread full of emulsifiers and ham which (like sausage) god knows what ingredients has.

It's ok that primary schools offer desserts, even if they are small portions and low sugar on a daily basis - not on a weekly or as special occasion! I don't have a dessert everyday, why my kid is offered one?

Honestly, are all these things ok? Am I paranoid?

I am very worried that the kids will either end up obsessed. with diabetes or with other health issues given all the processed food and the fact that we are what we eat.

YABU - are you crazy?

YANBU - unfortunately this is a "balanced healthy diet" in the UK!

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TooManyCats2024 · 23/07/2024 17:19

CelesteCunningham · 23/07/2024 17:14

My absolute favourite post on this thread is the one insisting there is no pizza on the continent. Absolutely brilliant.

And the children don’t have tantrums!

robotsquirrel65 · 23/07/2024 17:20

PuttingDownRoots · 23/07/2024 16:36

Ahhh the "Continent". That homogeneous place where al children eat identically.

Let's ignore the popular children's meal in Germany... Spaghetti and ketchup for example.

Or the bowl of hot chocolate and a croissant popular in France

Or the Greek pastries, like the one with a hot dog sausage in.

😂😂

YOYOK · 23/07/2024 17:20

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:18

She's Maltese.

So pasta, soups, risotto, bread etc.

IMAGINE THE SALT CONTENT AHHHH

Omg carbs!!!!!!!!!!!

mitogoshi · 23/07/2024 17:20

I dont add sugar to tomatoes either but I do use add vegetables likes carrots and onions cooked down which add sweetness. I've never used puree, it's not nice

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 17:20

BuzzKiller · 23/07/2024 17:19

This thread is literally making me crave a fish finger or sausage sandwich in cheap white bread 👌

Edited

😂

Mirabai · 23/07/2024 17:20

Well now you know why 60% of British are overweight and obese. The preoccupation with UPFs knows no bounds.

Ghosttofu99 · 23/07/2024 17:21

NotAlexa · 23/07/2024 16:30

I hear you OP. I'm also from the continent and British kids (as adults too) have atrocious diets. I did not know what chocolate was until 7 years of age, and was only allowed fruit for the sweet tooth. To this day, I do not want chocolate, because I am not addicted to it like to an opioid.

Kids menu's on the continent are also significantly better - there are no chicken nuggets and pizza's; kids eat what adults eat, just smaller portions!

We also don't have a problem with children and tantrums. Somehow european kids palates are well developed and they simply don't want unhealthy stuff.

Also there is something to be said regarding the fact that we introduce babies to solids at 4 months old, in the UK they all look at me like I'm an alien. 😅And we get them potty trained as soon as they can sit!

I would say, for the sake of your kids try to explain to them the back of the ingredients list on packaging and definitely show them pictures of obese people so they know what can be the result of sugar/aspartame overdose and processed food eating. Definitely going to do that to my DD when she is old enough to read.

Weaning a baby at 4 months (before their digestive system is fully developed yet) can lead to life long damage that might not become fully apparent until adulthood which is why it’s not recommended in the U.K. anymore.

InATizzz · 23/07/2024 17:21

100% agree!! If you haven't already, read 'Ultra-Processed People' by Chris van Tulleken. Literally life-changing (and saving!) stuff.

WonderfulUsername · 23/07/2024 17:21

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:18

She's Maltese.

So pasta, soups, risotto, bread etc.

IMAGINE THE SALT CONTENT AHHHH

Say no more then...Ahh ok...

Is obesity a problem in Malta?

The island holds the unenviable record of being the fattest country in the EU. According to Eurostat, the EU's statistics agency, a quarter of Maltese adults are obese. The weight problem threatens to drag down the health of Malta's residents and their generous free health care system.

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:21

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:19

Though the Mediterranean diet has again just been voted the ‘best diet for 2021’, the majority of Maltese prefer to resort to an abundance of fried and fatty foods, injected with too much sugar content, according to chefs and health experts.

timesofmalta.com/article/no-mediterranean-diet-please-were-maltese.843867#:~:text=Though%20the%20Mediterranean%20diet%20has,to%20chefs%20and%20health%20experts.

🤣🤣🤣

I wonder if the chefs and health experts also took into account that the Maltese (because it’s fine to generalise about an entire country in this thread, right?) can’t read labels or understand nutritional advice on food?

jannier · 23/07/2024 17:21

That's an adults portion.....you can get low salt and sugar varieties too....it is 10% of the sugar and 20% of the salt recommended daily intake not that the can is 10%/20%....you could eat 5 portions or 2.5 cans to reach the salt limit.

robotsquirrel65 · 23/07/2024 17:21

OP, did you post just to make sure everyone knows you're superior to us uncultured swines?
You're right though - my toddler is eating fish fingers straight out of the freezer as we speak.

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 17:21

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:04

Those salads sound miserable

Miserable? Just because they have beans in them?? I'm sure there are other ingredients too!

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 17:22

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:31

If I send them with this lunch box then I get complaints that the friends eat the brownies, biscuits, muffins and jelly that the school offers.

Why are you giving in to pester power from your children, yet full of damnation for the choices at school? They're your children - and still very young - you decide!

Simonjt · 23/07/2024 17:22

Our european toddler is currently having a huge tantrum because her papa won’t let her go in the pool on her own.

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 17:22

robotsquirrel65 · 23/07/2024 17:21

OP, did you post just to make sure everyone knows you're superior to us uncultured swines?
You're right though - my toddler is eating fish fingers straight out of the freezer as we speak.

The horror 😱

YOYOK · 23/07/2024 17:23

robotsquirrel65 · 23/07/2024 17:21

OP, did you post just to make sure everyone knows you're superior to us uncultured swines?
You're right though - my toddler is eating fish fingers straight out of the freezer as we speak.

Did you eat least cook them?! 😁

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 17:23

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:04

@SummerDays2020 you missed the very obvious sarcasm

I do apologise - I'm autistic so it wasn't very obvious to me, I'm afraid!

YOYOK · 23/07/2024 17:23

Simonjt · 23/07/2024 17:22

Our european toddler is currently having a huge tantrum because her papa won’t let her go in the pool on her own.

Your child is clearly not European. They do not tantrum. Please restore your child to factory settings. They may need a reset.

ForKeenLimeOtter · 23/07/2024 17:24

I think we are pretty much in denial in the UK. From the posts here you'd think that everyone understands what a healthy diet is but we eat more processed food in the UK than the rest of Europe, so I don't know who's eating it all.

I'm surprised some people think fish fingers are healthy. They have very little nutritional value. Oily fish is what we lack in our diet - breaded white fish is no replacement for it.

Baked beans are only good for us because we get so little other legumes in our diets. If you read about the blue zones (the areas in the world that have the best nutrition and tend to live the longest) they eat a lot of veg, legumes/pulses, oily fish, berries, nuts, a bit of meat and a small amount of dairy each week.

We have moved a long way away from this - due to poverty, lack of time but also a lack of skills and knowledge are also to blame.

hastingsmax · 23/07/2024 17:24

@SummerDays2020 me too, took me a while to get truth be told. Then it was very obvious Blush

Vizella · 23/07/2024 17:24

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 16:33

I think you've misunderstood. No one thinks sausages and chicken nuggets are healthy.

And juices with sweetener? Like Capri sun do you mean? I would consider that an occasional drink. My DC drink water mainly and sometimes some fresh juice or a milkshake.

I agree lots of people do seem to eat cheap bread and ham. Our bread comes from the bakery and we don't eat ham.

And I agree school lunches are dreadful including the dessert every day. But just wait til high school - it gets 10x worse! I wouldn't mind just fruit and yogurt offered, though. That's what mine have after dinner if they are still hungry. Occasionally I will make a dessert like a crumble or cheesecake.

I think you need to stop worrying about what other people are doing and feed your kids how you prefer. Most parents are trying their best.

I don't think your DC will be obsessed with diabetes?!

Plenty of us are into nutrition and feeding our DC healthy food. It's not that unusual!

What kind of things do you give your DC for lunch at school? Always looking for new ideas!

I think she means obese with diabetes.

FuzzyStripes · 23/07/2024 17:24

Mirabai · 23/07/2024 17:20

Well now you know why 60% of British are overweight and obese. The preoccupation with UPFs knows no bounds.

Malta has for years topped overweight and obesity lists, with predictions by the World Obesity Federation published in March suggesting the problem is set to worsen and over a third of the adult population will be obese by 2030.

https://timesofmalta.com/article/more-than-75-of-maltese-men-are-overweight.952336

More than 75% of Maltese men are overweight

No other country in European region does worse, WHO report finds

https://timesofmalta.com/article/more-than-75-of-maltese-men-are-overweight.952336

jannier · 23/07/2024 17:24

This is the advice on fat intake for children....

British kids and eating habits - IABU ?
Tagyoureit · 23/07/2024 17:24

You sound like a food snob.

Our school is hot on healthy food, the school cooks food from locally sourced farms, has a salad bar etc.

If you don't want your kids to eat the school meal then give them a packed lunch, it's really that simple.

But try not to be so judgey of others who do eat it, for some kids that's they're most nutritious meal of the day.

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