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British kids and eating habits - IABU ?

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lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 16:17

I have two young kids and we live in the UK but we are not originally from here.

At home we cook everyday from scratch our food and we take that food at a lunch box at our workplace. We have a light dinner again made from scratch.

The issue is our kids which are of course going to school/nursery and they love to copy their friends!

In the UK it's healthy if a kid eats sausages (god knows what the meat has inside), or for example Heinz baked beans which have 10% sugar and 20% salt (leaving 70% being actual beans) or if they eat fish fingers which are pre-fried (even if you bake them they were already fried before got frozen) or chicken nuggets (again pre-fried which god knows what was the oil quality).

It's also acceptable to drink juices which have no sugar but plenty sweeteners.

Also, it's perfectly fine to have a ham sandwich for lunch which has ready made processed bread full of emulsifiers and ham which (like sausage) god knows what ingredients has.

It's ok that primary schools offer desserts, even if they are small portions and low sugar on a daily basis - not on a weekly or as special occasion! I don't have a dessert everyday, why my kid is offered one?

Honestly, are all these things ok? Am I paranoid?

I am very worried that the kids will either end up obsessed. with diabetes or with other health issues given all the processed food and the fact that we are what we eat.

YABU - are you crazy?

YANBU - unfortunately this is a "balanced healthy diet" in the UK!

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ChallahPlaiter · 23/07/2024 18:27

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 18:24

Nope. Visiting my son who was working in Valencia. Too much salty food and meat for me,@Maddy70 although I did develop a taste for those packaged vanilla cakes.

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We’re an Anglo Spanish family and spend a lot of time in Spain. Kids love those cakes! I feel guilty about the amount of plastic packaging but nothing else.

Anothernamechane · 23/07/2024 18:27

Malta is the fattest country in Europe, with higher rates of obesity than the UK.

bert3400 · 23/07/2024 18:27

PuttingDownRoots · 23/07/2024 16:36

Ahhh the "Continent". That homogeneous place where al children eat identically.

Let's ignore the popular children's meal in Germany... Spaghetti and ketchup for example.

Or the bowl of hot chocolate and a croissant popular in France

Or the Greek pastries, like the one with a hot dog sausage in.

Ahhh I live on 'The Continent'....I've never seen so much sugar served at breakfast. So much greasy food and fatty meat . Don't get me wrong I love living here but bloody hell their diet is shocking too

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 18:27

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 23/07/2024 17:29

I understand the despair OP as generally British children's diets aren't great, hence the obesity rates. However schools have food standards to adhere to. I think you'll find the desserts are part of a balanced diet. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/school-food-standards-resources-for-schools/school-food-standards-practical-guideSchool food standards School food standards School food standards School food standards

My DD has often had a rocky road, a brownie and a caramel shortbread for lunch - it really is not a balanced diet!!

Est1990 · 23/07/2024 18:29

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 18:25

Did you hesitate at all when you were writing 'I don't have kids'. Spending time on mumsnet does not qualify you to have a say on anything concerning kids when you have no experience of having them. Sorry, but you have no idea. Yes, I realise maybe you didn't have kids because you couldn't (this was me for a while!) or aybe you didn't want to, but again, you can't understand if you haven't walked in others shoes.

I can because i have parents. And a father that cooked everyday decent food after 18.30. Cleaned the house and drove us around. While my mum did very little unfortunately.
So ive seen by example. The best example.

bert3400 · 23/07/2024 18:29

NotSmallButFunSize · 23/07/2024 18:17

I've just been to Italy and there were plenty of chips and nuggets etc on the "Baby Menu" and pretty sure I heard some screaming kids too....

Oh and we wean at 6m because that is what research suggests is the best age, not because the English have "weird" eating habits. It's no coincidence that the external signs of being ready for solids appear around 6m old, almost as if we evolved to be this way?? 🙄

I think the UK guidance as changed back to 4 months ... could be wrong though

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 18:30

Dutch DC eat white bread with butter and sprinkles for breakfast! Luckily, my DC weren't keen. Even some adults still eat that for breakfast. The equivalent of our Coco pops etc.

jannier · 23/07/2024 18:30

lovemycoffee2 · 23/07/2024 17:24

The problem to me is how do I make my kid want to take the lunch box which has no fancy pudding and not to have a drama about it in the morning , while knowing that the X,Y,Z best friend will have school lunch because 1. it's free 2. it's the easiest for the parents of the X,Y,Z kid?

Again, I am talking about 4 year olds!

But your diet means no temper tantrums so what do you mean? That is the meal you are having school won't let me put sweets in end of the argument. I deal with 4 separate lunch boxes a day ...more in school holidays all have different things in .....maybe being firm is something you don't get on the continent

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 18:31

ChallahPlaiter · 23/07/2024 18:27

We’re an Anglo Spanish family and spend a lot of time in Spain. Kids love those cakes! I feel guilty about the amount of plastic packaging but nothing else.

Keeps them moist and fresh! Loved them 😄

AngelinaFibres · 23/07/2024 18:31

Many years ago my son had a 6th birthday party at McDonald's. One of the guests arrived with a brown paper bag containing a whole meal roll and a banana. I was told that the child wouldn't eat a maccyD , had never had one and was to have this. Child was duly given his special bag. Did he eat it. Did he hell. He went round the party table, after the others had finished what they wanted and had gone to play, and hoovered up the forbidden leftovers like a starving man on a desert island. The more you forbid something the more fabulous it seems.

Blisterly · 23/07/2024 18:31

The OP is just stirring and trying to cause faux outrage. Nobody thinks processed foods are healthy so I’m not sure where you are getting this from. I grew up in France and lived in Spain for a while. It’s very similar to the UK, so maybe you want to broaden your horizons.

Feed your children what you want, children will always want what others have and will make things up accordingly (but everyone has an iPad mum!!!).

BlackFriYay · 23/07/2024 18:32

Boring.

I don't think you're in any place to be critiquing people's nutritional choices, you can't even read and understand the values in a tin of beans.

Worry about your kids diets and keep your nose out of everybody else's.

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 18:32

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 18:27

My DD has often had a rocky road, a brownie and a caramel shortbread for lunch - it really is not a balanced diet!!

In school!? that absolutely does not happen here. Its some fruit hiding 'pudding' they give them on a friday, even the 'ice cream' with it is frozen yogurt .

TheLizardQueen · 23/07/2024 18:33

Many families do not have the time or money to buy fresh and cook from scratch every day, certainly not the nurseries or schools. They provide meals that most kids will eat, sometimes it’s the only meal they have each day.

AngelinaFibres · 23/07/2024 18:33

bert3400 · 23/07/2024 18:29

I think the UK guidance as changed back to 4 months ... could be wrong though

Grandson is 6 months. Weaning from now. Definitely not 4 months

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 23/07/2024 18:34

Est1990 · 23/07/2024 18:29

I can because i have parents. And a father that cooked everyday decent food after 18.30. Cleaned the house and drove us around. While my mum did very little unfortunately.
So ive seen by example. The best example.

Are you currently a child? Because your user name suggests not so surely are aware that lots of things have changed since then. Don't get me wrong, your dad sounds a legend, but thats given you an embarrassing naivety about being a parent.

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 18:34

Est1990 · 23/07/2024 18:29

I can because i have parents. And a father that cooked everyday decent food after 18.30. Cleaned the house and drove us around. While my mum did very little unfortunately.
So ive seen by example. The best example.

But you are still not a parent so have no bloomin idea what its like to be one. Maybe you were an absolute angel for your father, maybe you have rose tinted specs or maybe you are just again, judging something you have absolutely no clue about.

SummerDays2020 · 23/07/2024 18:35

bert3400 · 23/07/2024 18:29

I think the UK guidance as changed back to 4 months ... could be wrong though

I think the guidance now says 'around 6 months' and parents are told to look out for signs they are ready such as being able to sit up, pick up food and put it in their mouth and swallow food rather than push it back out. I don't think most babies at 4 months can do those things. My DS wasn't interested until 9 months but my DD was ready at 6 months. I personally don't know anyone whose baby was ready prior to 6 months.

CatrionaBalfour · 23/07/2024 18:35

Safaribar · 23/07/2024 18:34

But you are still not a parent so have no bloomin idea what its like to be one. Maybe you were an absolute angel for your father, maybe you have rose tinted specs or maybe you are just again, judging something you have absolutely no clue about.

This. 💯

MavisPennies · 23/07/2024 18:35

Oh you do sound much better than us. Please teach us your ways.

Est1990 · 23/07/2024 18:36

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HMTheQueenMuffin · 23/07/2024 18:36

bert3400 · 23/07/2024 18:27

Ahhh I live on 'The Continent'....I've never seen so much sugar served at breakfast. So much greasy food and fatty meat . Don't get me wrong I love living here but bloody hell their diet is shocking too

I am completely obsessed with 'what my family eats in a week' videos on youtube. I follow a couple of French bloggers (neither of whom have children) an Italian/Moldovan girl who along with a cousin of hers post their food in Italy, some Germans and alot of the Scandinavians.

We are being sold the idea that everyone in Europe does everything So Much Better Than Us. It's not wholly true. The Italian/Modovan girl who is my favourite blogger right now always eats very lightly but very sweet for breakfast. Her standard is a shop bought rum baba with espresso and nutella reigns supreme. That's quite typical it seems.

I also lived for about 6 months with a German/Swedish couple for various reasons 20 years back. Breakfast was cornflakes and orange juice and their children typically got boiled pasta with ketchup and milk for dinner. It was often enough that it was not a 'one off' as far as I could see.

Excited101 · 23/07/2024 18:37

Hope you’ve got your hard hat on op, there’s a lot of the western world who seem to think the diet you’ve listed is fine, and are very defensive about it.

PriOn1 · 23/07/2024 18:38

You could always go somewhere else. I raised mine in Scandinavia.

On kids menus there…. Hot dogs and chips. Eating out is a treat, not an everyday occurrence.

What you’re not going to manage is to change anything, and particularly not by ranting at other mums on Mumsnet.

NortieTortie · 23/07/2024 18:38

A HAM SANDWICH??

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