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Worried about my mum

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burritobabe24 · 22/07/2024 22:50

Five years ago we lost my dad quite suddenly. Since then my mum has become a shell of herself. She has always been a fairly anxious person but my dad (who was the opposite and very gregarious) sort of managed her anxiety and looked after her. He drove her everywhere, arranged all their holidays and days out, he basically planned her life for her and made her feel safe I guess.

Without him she's become very withdrawn and drinks heavily. I have tried to include her in our family life which sometimes she will accept but mostly she prefers to be home alone. I'm not sure if she's clinically depressed/anxious - she manages to work and sees friends etc when it suits her - but I wouldn't say she lives a healthy lifestyle and do think she struggles mentally.

However she won't accept any help at all. She's been having some worrying health issues lately that I've begged her to see a doctor for but she just won't. She would never consider getting help for her anxiety either. It seems to me like she's basically given up on life which is incredibly sad since she's relatively young (early 60s).

From a selfish point of view I feel hurt and scared for my future. I have a dh and my own dc but no other family at all. But mostly I feel so sad and helpless that she won't help herself. I know losing my dad has altered her life in ways I can't fully understand but she just seems adamant that she will never find peace or happiness again.

I am desperately worried that these health issues could be the start of something bad. Cancer runs in the family and the symptoms she's experiencing are red flags to me but when I've tried to persuade her to see a doctor she just seems ambivalent. She is a grown woman, I can't force her to get help but I'm so frustrated and worried.

How do I help someone who doesn't want to be helped?

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Pocketfullofdogtreats · 22/07/2024 22:54

Does she have a friend who she would listen to? If you explained your fears to the friend?

burritobabe24 · 22/07/2024 23:00

Yes there is one friend I have spoken to before. But she doesn't listen to her either. I just feel helpless.

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pikkumyy77 · 22/07/2024 23:06

Im so sorry to hear this. Especially as I am in my sixties and wonder what i would do without my dh.

I think the thing that is most concerning to me is the drinking. If she is numbing out to that extent she will both damage her health and be unable to manage other health and age issues.

I am not sure what you can do because it sounds like she had a long life of co-dependency with your lovely father. So its not like it would be easy for her to imagine joining a hobby group or taking an extended trip abroad or doing anything to restart life as an active person.

I would try to get her invested in some kind of plan for a future treat. Only when she returns to feeling life is worth living will she start to take care of herself.

burritobabe24 · 23/07/2024 08:52

I think the drinking plays a part to be honest. Maybe if she sees a doctor the extent of her drinking and perhaps what it's done to her health will become clear and she'd rather not know. But then again she's never been one to seek help for anything. I just don't get it.

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pikkumyy77 · 23/07/2024 11:52

You do get it but its awful and hard to face. Alcoholism is going to slowly but surely take over your mother’s life. That is what it does. It will fill the hole left by your father and become all in all to her. If you and her GP can’t stage an intervention she is unlikely to realize what is happening or will be too afraid of stopping

MarieDeGournay · 24/07/2024 15:32

I don't usually post on AIBU, I don't usually feel l have much to offer, but for some reason, OP, I've been thinking about you and your mother since I read your post yesterday.

My late mother went into a 'decline' after my father died - no alcohol abuse fortunately, but she became totally closed in on herself and her grief. I was close to my mam and very supportive and sympathetic, but one day I found myself saying to her 'Mam, you do realise that I've lost my father, don't you?'.

It's important to note that you lost your father suddenly five years ago, but your mother's grieving seems to have occupied so much of your space that maybe you haven't grieved for him properly. She's not doing it on purpose, no more than my mother did, but that's the outcome: you are all wrapped up in your mother's grieving - what's happened to your own?

From your mother's point of view - she may be aware that she's not doing what mothers are stereotypically ''supposed to do: support and comfort their children, but she just hasn't the emotional resources to do that now that the husband, who was her support, is gone. Maybe that's why she can sometimes function better outside the family at work or with friends - different dynamic, she's just her, not 'mum'.
That's total speculation on my part, obviously, but I think some of my mother's withdrawal was due to that.

The last thing I'd say is that 'reverse parenting' is very difficult because unlike actual parenting, you have no leverage over your parent. As you say, she is a grown woman and you can't make her do anything. I repeat: she is a grown woman and you can't make her do anything. So stop trying.

I found that I got through to my mother by forcing myself to see her as a human being, a woman, not 'mam', and by taking as much emotion out of the situation as I could before talking to her 'woman to woman'.

Maybe have a sit-down over a cuppa and say, as calmly and neutrally as you can manage -

'Look, mam, I know things are very hard for you because you miss dad so much, I miss him so much too, but it's very hard to be around you if you won't take better care of yourself. You're all I have now, and I love you and I'd hate if anything happened to you. It's your life, but I'd really really appreciate it if you could take better care of yourself, the drinking is really worrying me.
If it was Auntie... or your friend ..... who was like this, wouldn't you be worried about them and want to help them get better?
I'm not going to keep nagging you, but this has to be said: you need to talk to the doctor and get help. Please mum, I'm asking you to do this for me. But it's up to you. Right, end of. Another cuppa?'

Something like that worked with my mother, and she accepted some help around the house [=a miracle!] etc., and I felt much less worried about her being on her own.

Your situation has really 'got amongst me' and I wish you and your mother well.
I hope your mother responds and starts taking better care of herself; but you have to face the fact that she might not, and you have to plan how to keep yourself strong and functioning and alive and well and focused on your own family if that happens - an awful thought, but you know what they say on planes about putting your own oxygen mask on first...?

Take good care of yourself, stay strong, remember that worry and frustration don't help, and are bad for you physically and emotionally.

FlowersFlowers - one each for two grieving women.

burritobabe24 · 26/07/2024 10:59

@MarieDeGournay thank you for that post, it really does mean a lot. And you're right, I've had to stay strong for my family and kids and haven't had the opportunity to process my own grief.

I have this week managed to contact the doctors and mum is due a call back today. Her behaviour is declining. She has signed herself off work and is constantly emotional, saying strange things and seems to want to sleep all the time. I suspect as well as the physical issues she has a lot of mental health stuff going on. I think she's depressed but when I've spoken to her about medication she has a very outdated view that it's somehow shameful and will go against her in the future somehow. I told her that I took anti depressants a few years ago after dad died and does that make her think badly of me. She said yes it does a bit.

This is what I'm up against. Someone who is clearly failing to care for themselves, never mind offer support to anyone else. But she is so resistant to actually doing anything about it. I am frustrated beyond belief.

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