To feel really upset about the lack of scrutiny on new housing development in the countryside

[DazedAndConfused2024]

Please don’t call me a NIMBY, but I’m really upset about the likelihood of housing development in the countryside and the likely lack of scrutiny for inappropriate development.
I accept there are housing targets to be met. This isn’t the issue.

However, where I live there is a small group of local town councillors who are adamant that all housing will be placed in areas other than behind their homes. It’s not localism…it really is as is.

By way of example; one potential development site has been reviewed to be suitable for approx 100-120 dwellings, yet the town council have tried to push double that onto the site (going against the borough’s own landscape reports on site suitability).
It is very depressing.

Given the current political atmosphere and rampant desire for more development, I am really worried that there will be no possibility to sensibly and logically critique proposals for over development, such as these, especially when the 5 year land supply is not being met.
I am concerned that scrutiny will be forgotten in the mad rush to build.

Yes, i voted for her, as she was the one most likely to oust the awful Tory, who voted consistently against the areas interests.

TBH she was very good when she came to the village to speak, seemed to genuinely care, so i don't hold a lack of experience against her.

Sure, v few MPs will ever vote against their party but i do hope she stays true to her word on the environment and housing

As my elderly uncle often says, it doesn’t matter who we vote for, we always end up with the government 😖

Well that's the way to ensure these developments won't be near you at least, is to live next to a Councillor or (Labour) MP. Always been the way and not going to change now.

And it will be the same when they let the prisoners out early They will be into a halfway house or hostel then a social housing estate. They wont be living near the MPs or councillors or the middle class do gooders

Funny though how Labour have made not the slightest mention of doing anything about BTL and second/holiday homes, which are a huge problem and IMO should not be allowed. These are nothing to do with need. One would think Labour should be against the wealthy owning more than one home .... it's almost as if many of them had their own snouts in that trough, funny that.

In many touristy areas, housing issues would be solved overnight if 2nd home airbnb was banned.

As i said, 86 airbnb's in my village, most are whole houses/flats, a few shepherd huts or annex's/single rooms.... the latter is fine, what isn't fine is LLs evicting tenants and then selling to airbnb owners or converting to hols lets themselves.

People wanting a cheaper holiday, shouldn't trump peoples ability to live and work in their home area, even when its locals themselves doing the airbnb ing.

Labour have only been in for 2 weeks, its bit early to be judging them on this matter... especially as the Tories had 14 years to do something about this and did nothing.

I'm sorry you think I'm having a go at you but I am, I admit, getting a bit frustrated at your complete and utter refusal to face up to realpolitik.

I will try one last time, the PC and CCC could not refuse that application.You say yourself there is a desperate need for new low cost housing in the village, the land was a brownfield site that had been earmarked for building and someone - who wasn't Persimmon, but a small local developer - came along and said he could do it.

That's a slam dunk, it doesn't matter how sceptical they were as a committee or as individuals, they have to give it their backing. I'm sure they were hoping the small local guy would do a better job and wouldn't fuck it up like he has. Would you have preferred Persimmon to come in and steamroller their way through the project? Sure, you'd probably have finished houses there by now, but I very much doubt they would be low cost housing full of happy local young families,

To fight these things successfully you cannot get so emotional about it, you have to fight them on their own terms. There's no point saying things like 'we all know the sewage system can't cope'. SWW say it can (see below) and that's that.

Anna is very young, mint green but if you give her cast iron information that she can use she might be able to do something useful with it. Flapping around saying the statutory consultees are wrong and the PC are benefitting from it will just get you put on the NIMBY/loony pile. Sorry, but I've been doing this for over 10 years and that's how it is.

Sorry but your way of doing things for the last 10 years hasn't worked has it?
What exactly have you achieved? nothing, the current way of dealing with housing in the area has been a complete and utter failure, which you defend!

I couldn't care less about realpolitik... or SWW for that matter, tell that to the residents who put up with 100s of tanker movements per month or the amount of shit pumped into the Tamar because the 'plant cannot cope with existing flows, let alone new developments.

At Persimmon would have finished it by now and the eyesore that is the site would be over.

I asked her Geldred what was her plans/views for local housing and upgrading the sewage plant were.... thats all, no mention of Bridge View, if she cannot be bothered to answer, then she can go the same way as the useless Murray.

Our views on what the PC and the local councillor should do are very different.

I know! That is the exact point I made much earlier!

I said that Labour are in for a big shock because local NIMBYs are not what is holding up housebuilding. In reality they have no real power, and this situation illustrates that perfectly.

However, this does not mean that your method will work, because it won't. If you follow proper procedure, then they can and will consider your points and you may effect change, and we have been successful at this several times in the past.

People like you are what gives grist to the developers' mill when they complain about Nimbys, people who don't understand the system and don't want homes built near them.