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To think actually Diana would NOT have loved Kate

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FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 11:39

And would have been delighted to continue to drive a wedge between William and Harry?
She would have hated not being the most adored and beautiful woman in her kids lives and the adoration from the public

OP posts:
5128gap · 20/07/2024 12:04

x2boys · 20/07/2024 11:59

She was no saint but why would she sabotage her sons marriage ?

I'm not being serious. I knew Diana and the workings of her theoretical future mind about as much as anyone else on here. Ie, not at all. If we're going to speculate on the absurd, might as well go all in to the realms of nonsense.

ContentSolitude · 20/07/2024 12:04

Well, in my opinion, as a mother, I think regardless of whatever she wanted for herself, she'd have been very protective of her sons and their families and wanted the best for them. I think she'd have been of huge support to Kate and especially Meghan.

Kittynoodle · 20/07/2024 12:04

FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 12:03

She wasn't a princess. Fact check

What do you mean??
she WAS a princess!!

x2boys · 20/07/2024 12:05

She wasent princess Diana
But she Diana the princess of wales.

Misthios · 20/07/2024 12:05

I don't know why you're getting so much stick, @FrancisSeaton. Diana was an immensely complex character who regularly fell in and out with her friends. She ghosted people before ghosting was ever a thing. On the one hand she was immensely protective of her boys, on the other quite happy for them to be papped at Thorpe Park or similar. She was very smart at getting what she wanted from the press and was hugely skilled at PR.

It's fairly reasonable to assume that had she lived, she would have kept Harry on a more even keel, he obviously wouldn't have had to deal with losing a parent, may not have been quite so angry and hard done by about everything. I don't think things would have been much different for William though. I think Diana would have had a lot in common with Kate - both sporty, interested in music, art and fashion and their children.

Hoglet70 · 20/07/2024 12:06

I always thought Diana was a manipulative attention seeker so I think there's a possibility she'd have been jealous of both her daughters in law, even though one of them is also a manipulative attention seeker (the one that isn't Kate!!!).

Greenlittecat · 20/07/2024 12:06

This is hilarious. Why do you waste time think about this sort of stuff?!

There's a royal family bored, probably better to post there rather than AIBU if you want a proper discussion

FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 12:07

Misthios · 20/07/2024 12:05

I don't know why you're getting so much stick, @FrancisSeaton. Diana was an immensely complex character who regularly fell in and out with her friends. She ghosted people before ghosting was ever a thing. On the one hand she was immensely protective of her boys, on the other quite happy for them to be papped at Thorpe Park or similar. She was very smart at getting what she wanted from the press and was hugely skilled at PR.

It's fairly reasonable to assume that had she lived, she would have kept Harry on a more even keel, he obviously wouldn't have had to deal with losing a parent, may not have been quite so angry and hard done by about everything. I don't think things would have been much different for William though. I think Diana would have had a lot in common with Kate - both sporty, interested in music, art and fashion and their children.

Because people on here wet their undercrackers about any discussion regarding the world's most chaotic family just like when someone has a slice of pizza for a treat and they have a fit of the vapours that someone could be so greedy

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dayswithaY · 20/07/2024 12:09

If Diana had lived, lots of things would be different.

Charles and Camilla would have to navigate their relationship differently, not sure their path to marriage would have been smooth running. Would Diana have been in the cheap seats at the Coronation giving them daggers?

Or she would go to LA, get some therapy and start a new life not caring about the Royal family anymore. Probably become an Influencer and marry a tech billionaire.

William and Harry probably wouldn’t have fallen out in the first place as their mum would have banged their heads together.

She probably would have liked Kate as she could tell she was good for William.

She would see herself in Meghan, a royal rebel and admire her determination.

I’ll put my crystal ball away now.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 20/07/2024 12:10

You’re getting a hard time here OP but I think that’s mostly because when Diana died there was a lot of re-writing of history and she became almost ‘saintly’ rather than the emotionally unstable mess that she reportedly was. I don’t know what she would have thought about Kate (is there anything to think about Kate other than she has very shiny hair and very little personality?) but I do wonder what she would have made of Meghan. She clearly brought controversy to the monarchy in her own way, but I don’t think she would have been behind Harry’s attempt to sabotage William - she was going to be the mother of the king, and I reckon she would have been an absolute head case if anyone tried to stand in the way of that.

i would love to abolish the monarchy but I am glad they’re behaving like proper royals again - I found the ‘Kate and wills are just like you!’ v v tiresome. Just wish they’d start beheading each other again and we’d truly get our money’s worth. I vote for Andrew first.

DragonGypsyDoris · 20/07/2024 12:11

If this is all you can offer, I think you need help.

Punkrockprincess · 20/07/2024 12:12

PermanentlyFullLaundryBasket · 20/07/2024 11:46

Isn't it 27 years by now?

I wasn't a fan of hers, but this is a plain nasty, goady troll thread.

Gosh, yes it is. I'm still mentally in 2014 🤣

Somethingto · 20/07/2024 12:23

If Diana had lived her sons would have grown up to be different people psychologically, and might quite well have married different women.

Gilbertwasawuss · 20/07/2024 12:26

Maybe you are projecting and should take a look at how you treat women that you perceive to be more attractive and liked than yourself.

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/07/2024 12:58

FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 12:03

She wasn't a princess. Fact check

i have zero interest the princessy status of a deceased Princess,given in everyday parlance she was called princess di, it is reasonable to replicate that nomenclature here on mn

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/07/2024 13:54

FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 12:07

Because people on here wet their undercrackers about any discussion regarding the world's most chaotic family just like when someone has a slice of pizza for a treat and they have a fit of the vapours that someone could be so greedy

lol, that’s well observed. Yup,a family sharing a single pizza slice is gluttony
under crackers😀

diktat · 20/07/2024 13:58

The Kate fangurls are hitting new lows, dragging a dead woman’s name (and her love for her sons) through the mud to enshrine Kate as their hallowed one.

It’s some sort of weird cult.

GlossyChipmonk · 20/07/2024 14:13

I think it’s only people who have below average intelligence who like to think about things like royal family and “what ifs”

FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater · 20/07/2024 14:49

Punkrockprincess · 20/07/2024 11:43

The woman has been dead 17 years. Get over it fgs

Do you have a small life op?

She died in 1997. Almost 30 years ago!

FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater · 20/07/2024 14:50

FrancisSeaton · 20/07/2024 11:58

She would have been majorly vexed with the press attention on Kate seemingly never being able to do any wrong. I'm sure she would have encouraged Meghan to cause even more resistance
Oh and I'm so terribly sorry for starting such a thread on a July Saturday morning instead of asking whether ground spelt or flaxseed was better for Araminta's steel cut porridge oats before taking her to her mandarin lesson

What does she learn about mandarins?!

SummaLuvin · 20/07/2024 14:51

I don’t know what she would have thought about Kate (is there anything to think about Kate other than she has very shiny hair and very little personality?)

lol - this really tickled me, when I opened the thread I thought the OP was going to say Diana wouldn't have been struck on Kate as she doesn't seem to have any passion for anything, nor has she made meaningful steps in progressing the causes of her charities (pre surgery and cancer). Diana, for all her faults, made a difference and was a loud champion of the causes she held dear.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 20/07/2024 15:40

Bloody hell 😆 I’m not going to criticise you for speculating about the private lives of the royals, because millions do, but this is next level weird. At least in William v Harry we have some context and basic facts, even if the emotional nuance is mostly private. With this, you have nothing.

When Diana died she was 36 and had only been divorced a year. She was still huge news; most adults could remember her supposed fairytale story and the dream sold in the press, and the spectacular collapse of this was very fresh in the public mind. Had she lived, by the time William got married she would have been 50 and divorced for 15 years. Would she have still been the same major front page of the newspapers draw? Would public feeling have changed? It’s impossible to know whether the Queen, or rather the wider establishment, would have sanctioned Charles’s remarriage while he had a living wife (particularly to the other woman), but it’s equally impossible to know whether the sympathies of the public would have remained solidly with Diana after 10 or 15 years rather than one. People might have softened towards Camilla as they have now; thought that maybe Charles deserved a chance at happiness now, especially if Diana had remarried at any point. You’re speculating that Diana would hate Kate for “supplanting” her, but who’s to say Diana would still have been in that position anyway?

We also don’t know what the 21st century Royal Family would have looked like if Diana had lived. Her death and the public reaction to it forced modernisation. Would that have happened if she’d remained a disgruntled ex-wife? We don’t know if the establishment would even have supported William marrying a commoner, or whether the monarchy would have doubled down on the dukes’ daughters or foreign princesses route. Diana might never even have had the opportunity to love, hate or feel anything in between for Kate. Or maybe she’d have pushed for William to be allowed to marry for love.

Speculation is one thing, but you’ve made the massive assumptions that a) nothing would have been different if Diana had lived and b) her standing with the public would never have changed.

HolidayAddict23 · 20/07/2024 19:54

You ok hun? You sound like you need to talk to a professional.

Weyward · 20/07/2024 22:24

I think she would be happy that both of her sons are happy.

Penguinmouse · 20/07/2024 22:35

We don’t know either way because we didn’t know her when she was alive and she’s been dead for over 25 years. It’s as unhelpful to say “Diana would have loved Kate” as it is to say she wouldn’t have. She just don’t know.