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To think people who work from home don’t get it?

406 replies

Wfhwhat · 19/07/2024 14:58

It’s not just the reduced stress as no travel, but it’s also the reduced sick days as it’s easier to wfh than go in if unwell. It’s being able to have a contractor at your home instead of booking a day off. It’s cheaper. You have more time with family.

I work in the nhs so there is literally no scope for me to work from home. I do love my job but had I known office jobs would turn in to work from home, I wouldn’t have gone into the nhs. I know I could change if I wanted to… but it’s not exactly realistic. I’m 48, two kids, trained in what I do.

just having a moan really after seeing so many wfh photos on Instagram out in the garden today.

OP posts:
Spacecowboys · 19/07/2024 15:25

Moan away op, but I really do think your viewing wfh through rose tinted glasses. I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse.

Ponderingwindow · 19/07/2024 15:26

I’ve been wfh full time for 15 years at this point and part time before that. I absolutely get what a difference it makes for lifestyle.

less use of leave, less stress. It’s easier to handle the issues for my special needs DC.

everything you say is true op.

the reality is that I get more benefit than that because I really wouldn’t be able to work in a public environment due to my medical issues. If I couldn’t wfh, I would probably have to be on disability. Instead, I earn a very good living.

Jennyathemall · 19/07/2024 15:27

What is it we should get? We should be conscious of others feelings when posting about our glorious wfh lifestyle? Dialling in to teams meetings in our sun loungers in our bikinis? This is about your envy nothing more. And btw, come winter most of us are sat freezing at home under an electric blanket with a hot water bottle. So swings and roundabouts.

gardenmusic · 19/07/2024 15:27

I have worked remotely for decades, as I was a rep. Swapped the office for motorways. The last eight years I have been wfh.
I think people do get it, and most people switched over during Covid, so most have experienced the slog of getting in to work.
There are some jobs where you just have to be there, if that doesn't work for you, then look for something that does work for you.

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 15:28

AquaFurball · 19/07/2024 15:01

Some people don't have a choice, WFH is the only way they can work.

An example?

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 15:29

Proving that many who wfh are taking the piss

Lifesd · 19/07/2024 15:29

I agree OP I don’t think a lot of them realise how privileged they are, and also don’t appreciate what it is like for the people that can’t. I’ve worked 100% at home, hybrid and am now in an organisation where you get 1 day a week at your managers discretion (diff country) and I am loving being in a thriving city office. It is only now I have moved I see the damage being done to the UK by allowing people to largely WFH. Unpopular opinion on here I’m sure.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 19/07/2024 15:29

Why would you think they don't get it Confused They are doing it, so of course they've noticed the things you're pointing out. That's why they like doing it! I'm a teacher, so no WFH for me either!

Spirallingdownwards · 19/07/2024 15:30

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 15:06

There should be a workplace premium of more than£££ for those who cannot WFH

and why are they all out in the garden? Unless it's a lunch break they should be concentrating on their job

🙄

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 19/07/2024 15:30

Wfhwhat · 19/07/2024 15:09

I know, just having a moan as it seems very unfair especially today when sweltering!

I work from home. I can’t work from or have lunch in my garden because I don’t have one. Is that unfair too?

ErrolTheDragon · 19/07/2024 15:31

I've WFH since 1995, and also a couple of years around 1990 when DH was seconded to the US and my company wanted to keep me.

There are undoubted many benefits, but also significant downsides - I was extremely lonely for a lot of the time in the US (though I got to fly up to the main office roughly monthly), and it's been pretty isolating here too.

InfoSecInTheCity · 19/07/2024 15:32

taxguru · 19/07/2024 15:01

Just remember that if firms find that staffing working from home can be just as effective as physically on their premises, it's only a small step for them to start employing people from abroad who are just as well qualified/experienced but expect much lower wages.

I think anyone working from home is at much greater risk of being made redundant in the next decade or two. Whereas jobs requiring the physical presence of their workers are likely to be far safer and not as likely to be affected by increased globalism.

Unless the company holds government contracts in which case it is likely to have requirements to only process data in specific jurisdictions or requirements to staff roles within specific locations.

Also many EU corporate clients will only allow the processing of data from within the EEA.

The often trotted out 'well your jobs clearly going to be easy to ship abroad if you work from home' line doesn't actually consider the many reasons why that wouldn't work for lots of companies.

WFH also provides companies with cost savings from real estate reduction and business resiliency because operations aren't tethered to a single internet service provider or a single utilities provider or a single physical location.

Thursdaygirl · 19/07/2024 15:33

Catza · 19/07/2024 15:00

What makes you think we don’t get it? We do, that’s why we work from home. No, I don’t think about millions of people working in the office before I post something online, why would I?
By the way, I work for the NHS and am 100% remote.

Absolutely - we DO get it, which is why we're sticking with jobs that allow us flexibility

JamSandle · 19/07/2024 15:34

If you would like a WFH option have a think about what options are available within the NHS. I dont think its too late at all.

Crayfishforyou · 19/07/2024 15:34

I work from home.
it’s impossible to have sick leave. people assume you can just work from your bed and be fine, and they refuse to believe you when you tell them that isn’t the case.
Not having to commute is lovely, childcare is still an issue. I start work at 8:30, dd has to be at school for 8:40. Paying for a breakfast club smarts for the sake of 20 minutes.

JC03745 · 19/07/2024 15:34

There are many jobs, even in the NHS, which can be worked from home. I solely WFH, but did a hands on job for 20yrs. People are surprised I can WFH, but I can and it works. I find it mainly older people that don't understand how it can be done.
OP- Have you looked elsewhere in your field?

ComfyBoobs · 19/07/2024 15:36

Of course we know it, it’s obvious!

And one of the reasons I have chosen a job with a large element of WFH. Why do you think we’re oblivious?

gardenmusic · 19/07/2024 15:36

Gingerdancedbackwards · Today 15:29
Proving that many who wfh are taking the piss

Yes, undoubtedly some are - those who are supposed to be working, but in effect are juggling children at the same time, or disappearing for long times.
My bosses could see exactly what I was doing, and if they were not happy, I would have known about it!

Wakeywake · 19/07/2024 15:36

Of course we get it. For most people, WFH extensively has only been a thing for the past 4 years. Most of us can still remember what it was like going to work every day.

christmaspudding43 · 19/07/2024 15:37

Cheeesus · 19/07/2024 15:21

How is reduced sick days a benefit to the employee? If I would have had a day off sick from office work, but soldier on through at home, that’s a benefit to the employer not me.

Because you're less likely to hit managing for absence triggers.

Another poster has mentioned it being harder to take sick leave because of expectations that people continue to wfh and I can see that side of it too.

JLou08 · 19/07/2024 15:38

I've done both, I do hybrid now and that's perfect. There are downsides to working at home depending on your circumstances. I have teenagers, I'm glad I have an office to go to during the summer holidays because working at home with them there would be stressful. I enjoy going into the office because my manager is there and other colleagues so if I need help I can easily get it. Getting hold of someone when we were all working at home was so much more difficult I'd be stuck on something and spending ages looking for solutions. In the office it's just a quick ask around and problem solved quickly which is much less stressful.

Wonkywinky · 19/07/2024 15:38

I get you!
I work for.the NHS too and am clinical so can't do it but I have a manager who is my only colleague who does at times work from home .
" Oh I'm just working from home today " while I drag myself in and deal with the day to day stuff.
I get you completely and there's nothing wrong with feeling the way you do.

OnlyTheBravest · 19/07/2024 15:38

We do get it. The nature of work is changing. There are no longer jobs for life, your employer does not necessarily look out for you, zero hours contracts are rife and no job could be deemed secure anymore. However, you can choose the type of role you would like and (with some effort) you can move into different careers.

Lockdown opened up different ways of working to more people. There is now the option to work 100% remotely or hybrid working, full time office work, term time, condensed hours, flexi time. You pick what suits you.

I personally love hybrid working with flexi-time. Best of both worlds. Would love to see a few more weeks of annual leave but I am much happier with my work-life balance. I feel like I actually get to enjoy my evenings now.

Badburyrings · 19/07/2024 15:39

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 15:06

There should be a workplace premium of more than£££ for those who cannot WFH

and why are they all out in the garden? Unless it's a lunch break they should be concentrating on their job

It could be people who can’t logon due to the MS outage caused by CrowdStrike Update. My husband for example can’t logon today but I can.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 19/07/2024 15:39

Of course we do?!

Working from home for most roles is a relatively new thing.

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