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Becoming homeless for my dream job

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ForTidyFinch · 17/07/2024 08:20

I've been offered and ideal job in the town where I currently live but my short term tenancy is due to end in a couple of weeks. I have tried everything to find a new place to live. There is nothing available in this small town and I have no friends or family living close enough to help. I have decided to start the job and then live in my car. I've reached a desperate point now where I think there is little chance of me being able to rent privately even if something does become available. A run of bad luck has drained my finances and a CCJ was taken out against me without my knowledge (for overstaying in a service station when my car was broken down!) This was taken out while I was living abroad and I have only just found out. So there goes the chance of renting privately. So the choice I see it is being homeless and destitute staying with relatives or living in my car and starting this interesting job opportunity. I think I will live in my car. WWYD

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ItsAlrightDarling · 17/07/2024 11:52

What will you tell your friends and family about your situation? Are you going to tell them you’re living in a car? Do you have people who come to visit you, normally?

kmoon10 · 17/07/2024 11:53

Re my earlier message https://england.shelter.org.uk/support_us/campaigns/renters_reform_bill

Becoming homeless for my dream job
Janieforever · 17/07/2024 11:53

Op have you done it, ever stayed a few nights in your car? As it will get old very fast. I know you’ve told the council you’re homeless but I’d go back , don’t assume about location. Explain you will be on the streets and about your job,

SanMarzano · 17/07/2024 11:57

ForTidyFinch · 17/07/2024 11:04

  1. Car is already parked legally is a quiet space which isn't overlooked by houses. I have blacked out windows in the back so can get changed there. Leisure centre is walkable - so is job. All in the small town where I currently live. Yes being noticed is a fear. I would have to be very careful. I'm not doing anything illegal but I wouldn't want it known.
  1. I have a kitchen at work. Toilets at work and leisure centre. No bowel or bladder problems. If I get ill I suppose I go to the Dr like anyone else. Since looking for a van I have started to realise there are quite a few people living in vans in the area. Presumably they also get ill despite not living in a house?
  1. Sorry this sounds a bit scaremongery it's not illegal to be homeless or not have a permanent address despite the many posters trying to convince me otherwise. I will not need to lie to my new employer at the time of signing all my paperwork I will not yet be homeless
  1. Yes this is my fear though my new job also pays more so I will have a wider pool of rentals I am eligible for. I will also be less fussy ( wqs looking for a private rental with a garden and parking) and rather just take any room available.

Having an address on your driving licence and V5C where you don’t live is illegal. Driving without valid insurance is illegal.

SilverCatStripes · 17/07/2024 11:59

A decent employer will not rescind a job offer because a new starter asks for help as they have no where to move to- it’s not an uncommon situation!

Which begs the question- how can this be a ‘dream job’ ?

Crikeyalmighty · 17/07/2024 12:01

@TheYearOfSmallThings I totally agree on that !

WallaceinAnderland · 17/07/2024 12:05

It will be so cold overnight in winter in your car. And damp possibly. Absolutely terrible idea OP.

Movinghouseatlast · 17/07/2024 12:08

You absolutely don't have to 'announce' to a whole town that you're homeless. Its word of mouth. A friend of mine is a bit of a nomad but she knows so many people that she always finds somewhere to rent. She's in a room in someone's house at the moment but has had 3 different flats in the time I've known her as she leaves every winter.

My next door neighbour is a landlord, he has 12 houses in our village. He never advertises anywhere, it's word of mouth.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/07/2024 12:09

@SanMarzano I'm presuming the OP means friend is somewhere like Bristol, Bath, Brighton- maybe London- personally I would see if you could see if you could do the job remotely and look for a room in a flat share- we live in Bath and there are lots- if not I would be asking a friend to stay short term whilst sorting a room and looking for a job pronto --any job- in that area - you can then look for a better one whilst you have a room and a job- living somewhere where housing is very limited indeed (even rooms) plus few jobs is a recipe for disaster unless you area local or have family to fall back on OR a live in job

taylorswift1989 · 17/07/2024 12:11

Having a CCJ won't stop you from being able to rent somewhere. I would look for a room in a house share or as a lodger. Look on gumtree as well as other sites. There may be cheap hostels in your area - even if they're not that cheap, they'll be cheaper than hotels.

It's great you've got a job. I would make finding a place to stay a huge priority, though, because without that, you are going to struggle with everything else. Is there any way to stay on in your current accommodation? (Where are you going to put all your stuff if you have to move out with nowhere to go?)

If I were in your situation with nowhere to go, I would put my funds into staying in a hostel while I searched for lodgings. Will you get a deposit back from your current place? Will you have continuous income from changing jobs? I would put all my income into funding accomodation, and even consider spending on a credit card if there was no other option.

If there's no hostel, I would get a tent and pitch on a campsite where there's toilets and shower facilities. It will be okay in the summer (even though it's a rainy one) and will give you a bit of time to sort accomodation.

PinkSunsetSky · 17/07/2024 12:14

CoffeeCatsAndVodka · 17/07/2024 11:40

Just a few questions that spring to mind:

What is your short term tenancy and what is the reason the landlord has given you for not being able to stay there and extend? Do you have a contract with them?

You did not get a CCJ for your car being in a service station car park for an hour longer than it should have been. The private car parking enforcement company did not just send one letter that you say your friends didn't open and then you ended up with a CCJ. That's not how it works.

Why is it your long term plan to try and get the CCJ removed? That needs to be a priority, how long has this situation been going on for and what communication has occurred so far? You can't just not pay it.

If you were overseas, who left your car at the service station?

Do you have a job at the moment? If so, what were you going to do about your living situation anyway, if you are staying in the same area, the job move has not precipitated the homelessness, it was coming anyway.

And either way, why wouldn't you have been looking for a job somewhere, (anywhere) else where you could also get accommodation?

What will happen to your post in a couple of weeks? Do you expect the new tenants to open it and or let you you know?

Where does your insurance think the car is registered to. Once you are homeless your car insurance will be invalid. So you won't be insured to have it on the road. Where will it go then?

When is your MOT due?

What happens if you need the toilet in the night?

I really think you need to sit down and make a new plan.

All of this !

ReadingSoManyThreads · 17/07/2024 12:15

OriginalUsername2 · 17/07/2024 10:59

An eviction doesn’t stop you getting rentals. The CCJ might.

The official, council advice if you are about to be made homeless is to stay in your rental. I know this as I’ve been through it.

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It absolutely can and does, most Landlords will not rent to people who have been evicted through the courts.

Yes, the council give the "stay put" advice, however, this is not official, and it is actually unlawful advice, as has been proven in a court of law, when Landlords have taken councils to court for this advice.

You may "know this", from your own personal experience, but you seem unaware that this is UNLAWFUL. I know this, as I'm a Landlord, and have seen the black and white evidence of the court cases.

lavendercove · 17/07/2024 12:17

I remember a lady on here in a dire situation who had been told to stay put by the council and ended up having to pay huge costs.

PinkSunsetSky · 17/07/2024 12:17

You can’t sleep / live in your car.
Weather temperatures for summer here can be 29c / 30c , the car will be absolutely roasting like an oven ,you would be so hot and sweaty and with windows down for air then it’s not secure ?
Opposite in winter , you would freeze.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 17/07/2024 12:18

@ForTidyFinch I get that you feel the CCJ was unfair as your car had broken down, but had you actually given your registration to the hotel or service station management to get your registration logged as an exemption at the time? Because, if you didn't, then the CCJ was not unfair.

My car also broke down somewhere with a 90min parking limit. The first thing I did after calling the break down service was go to the manager of the shop and get my registration logged for an exemption.

You might be able to get it set aside on a technicality of them not having the correct address for you though. But if not, you really do need to pay this off, otherwise, you'll struggle with your credit rating for a long time.

elizabethdraper · 17/07/2024 12:19

I live in Dublin. Its a pretty common senerio here. There beach carparks always have a few people who sleep in their cars.

I say go for it.

Get yourself some stick velcro and material so you can cover up your all your windows at night.

get your a little camping stove and a deck chair to sit outside night, sorted

Waffle78 · 17/07/2024 12:19

Contact whoever will be employing you and explain your predicament. I'm sure they wouldn't want to see staff living in their car. There just might be someone with a spare room you could rent or house share.

LaundryIsNotmyFriend · 17/07/2024 12:20

OP you should look into getting the CCJ overturned as you were not living in the country at the time.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 17/07/2024 12:21

Can you ask your family about using their address for all your legal stuff?
(it's useful to have bank account, insurance, car registration and driver's licence etc all at same address)

I lived in a truck for years, and moved around a lot - so was 'no fixed abode' for doctors etc. Both my vehicle and my driver's licence were registered to my parents' house for over a decade - not a problem at all for the DVLC. Please ignore all the people telling you it's an offence that you'll be fined for! As long as any correspondance goes somewhere safe, where it will reach you, that's enough. If your family's address is stable, and you think it's unlikely to change any time soon, use it! Better to do that than rely on (and pay for) Royal Mail redirection services for any length of time.

Your bank and most others will be very happy to communicate with you via email most of the time anyway.

If you're planning to get rid of the car anyway, then yes, look into cheap vans (or estate cars - something long enough to lie down). If you have a tow bar, another cheap option might be to buy an old touring caravan. Do you know of anyone who would maybe let you park this in their driveway/ garden, and provide an extension cable, in exchange for a small amount of £?

The good thing about being in a tourist town is that there are probably loads of locall businesses (incl all those air bnb owners, cafes, pubs etc) that struggle to find staff, as nobody can afford to live locally. If your new dream job isn't too onerous/ inflexible, could you combine it with - for example- doing changeovers in an air bnb? This would mean being around on Saturdays to do all the cleaning, change the beds etc - perhaps you could negotiate for a parking spot plus pay for this?

Would echo what others have said about checking out WWOOF and HelpX, also about looking for pet-sitting gigs over the summer holidays (if you like animals) and seeing if there are any elderly people who would appreciate having a live-in helper and offer you a room rent-free in return for some simple tasks (shopping, basic care, light housework).

When does your new job start? Once you're there, you might feel more able to confide in one or two of them (in confidence) about your situation, and they might well be able to help in some way.

Good luck!

DawsonsFreak · 17/07/2024 12:26

I don't know if it's too late for you to look into this, OP, but could you look into house/pet sitting as a form of temporary accommodation?

AhBiscuits · 17/07/2024 12:27

Don't move out of your property. Let the landlord serve a Section 21 and you will have another 2 months. Let them go through the court process to evict you. This will take another 2 months. Once the eviction date arrives, don't leave. They will need to instruct bailiffs to remove you and this will take another 2 months. Once you have been removed, present yourself to the council as homeless and they will more likely than not find you somewhere, even if it's a B&B.
Throughout, continue to look for somewhere else. Fix your car as job 1. Even a 2 hour commute is far preferable to sleeping in your car.

PickledPurplePickle · 17/07/2024 12:27

You will need an address for car insurance, driving licence, etc

Testina · 17/07/2024 12:27

I'm glad to hear there is light at the end of the tunnel.after a CCJ. I won't be paying it of however - it was unfairly applied after my car broke down and so overstayed at a service station

It’s unlucky but not unfair.
I pulled into a service station with a puncture. Called the AA first, then second went to check if I’d need to buy a ticket based on their estimate of arrival exceeding the free hours.
Given that an unsatisfied CCJ can literally stop you renting, you’re cutting your nose off to spite your face when you were in the wrong anyway.

I think now is the time to make the move away from an area with sounds like it will be constantly problematic for jobs, housing and transport.