To not know how people are comfortable defrauding others

[MenyMeny]

I was doomscrolling on TikTok the other day and was surprised to find a close friend's relative.

They're selling themselves as a "supermum entrepreneur" and guaranteeing that she can help other mums earn six figures with little training.

I had no idea that they're even on TikTok but in her stories, she talks about her struggles with paying her mortgage and her numerous successful businesses.

I've known this woman for nearly 20 years, she's always lived off her parents, her businesses are all MLM's and she's never stuck at anything for more than a few months. There are numerous other lies all of which I'm aware of because my acquaintance has told me the issues it has caused her.

I get that people are struggling and that people are looking to make money in additional ways but every word out of this woman's mouth was a lie. I just find it abhorrent and I couldn't live with exploiting people and defrauding people in this way.

I actively avoid this person. I stopped after she kept trying to recruit me to her numerous "businesses".

YABU: people do what they can to get by
YANBU: Some people are unscrupulous and are happy to defraud others.

I don’t think it’s that simple. These schemes work because they are brain washed into believing the hype - which they have to replicate.

You should pity them and move on and not engage.

All of these schemes
Body shop
Herbalife
Younique
Those candles ones
Etc etc
Are all scams. Sadly people get tricked into them.

@Scarletttulips they've come up with money making schemes for as long as I've known them even including becoming "freeman of the state 🙄". I know people fall for things but in her videos she is actively lying about her past experiences.

I get being drawn into hype but I don't understand simply lying to make money.

I would have been very tempted to create a new account and post something to warn people not to believe everything they read.

@Moonshiners yup, she's tried many of those and also tried to sign me up as well. I tried to be sympathetic at first but as she has family money, she's never had to actually work.
As I said, I avoid her so was surprises to see her pop up on my feed or whatever else it's called.

@MounjaroUser I hadn't actually thought about that. Good idea.

It’s all such bollocks. I’m astonished anyone believes it. There is no easy way to earn six figures.

I flat out refuse to entertain any kind of shight like that. A family friend of mine once got in touch completely randomly asking how I was and wouldn’t it be nice to have a catch up over the phone and was desperate to pin me down to a date and time - It was odd as we rarely see each, then boom, it began…

“How are you, I’ve just got a new job, in fact can you have a word with my boss Mike?”

• Im thinking WTF is going on here…. Then a Middle aged man started asking me about my bills. My eyes were 🙄 I was so mad as the penny dropped as to what was happening and I was a ‘player’ in her training’.

He was asking me how many people I could name that could do with some extra money saved and then asked me to name them. I was raging 😤 that this friend had put me in this ridiculous situation and wasting my time. He was constant and wouldn’t take no for an answer wanting me to sign up bla bla. In the end I was so mad I said no. I felt a bit bad for the friend because she was wanting to make a bit of cash but the hard sell by ‘Mike’ was awful. She said Mike and his wife have been so lovely to me and tell me I can call them to whenever I want etc… I though my aye because they can see your vulnerable. Awful.

I won’t entertain anything of the sort now.

@StJanetof I know but people do unfortunately fall for it. I feel for them.

@ClickClack300 I've had the same. Every time she asked I'd say no. Match betting, mortgage fraud, MLM's, she's done the lot. She never wants to do the work, she tries to employ people close to her to do it.
Her parents have always indulged her and thrown money at her every whim.

A very close relative passed and within days she was trying to recruit me to her MLM to "help with my grief".

Matched betting is legit though. MLMs not so much. What do you mean by mortgage fraud?

Sad but true, it is because it is easy and people are guiillable, we can all pretend 'omg how can anyone say that' but its true

Until people stop falling for it people will keep doing it, it is not that hard to understand, sure it's wrong but it will keep on happening unless people stop believing in it

YANBU at all. Fraud is a crime. People who are comfortable defrauding others are scum.

@TimeForMyMonthlyNameChange she had paid a "consultant" to try and get her family out of paying their mortgage by using loopholes found in the "freeman of the state" nonsense. The idea was that she'd use these loopholes to get the mortgage paid off, she'd take out a mortgage for them and then take a percentage from the money earned.

She had the idea to run up as much debt as possible with the intention of not paying it back because she was a "freeman" and then use this to never have to pay it back.

@Edingril I appreciate that people are vulnerable. I've worked with vulnerable people in the past and also supported others that have fallen for scams. I guess I'd never thought she'd stoop so low.

I had a good friend who was a big part of our social circle. Once she got into MLM, she dumped all of her friends & started treating us like clients, and got in with the MLM set. She’s making a living out of it now, and loads of us old friends are still in touch with each other. And we miss her, but there she is…