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AI School Report - Ok or not Ok?

171 replies

whathappensnextthen · 13/07/2024 10:44

Dc came home with Her School report yesterday, she's in Year 2 (6yr old). The opening statement was long and very professional written, lots of complex language and descriptive words. DB (her uncle) was there when I was reading it and said straight away it's AI written. We put it into an online research tool and it came back as 100% generated, with no personal touches added whatsoever.

AIBU to be upset?

For the record, DNieces also came home with theirs which was very obviously personally written and what you would expect from a Primary School Report.

OP posts:
IgnoranceNotOk · 13/07/2024 16:24

IgnoranceNotOk · 13/07/2024 16:24

Yes you did make me consider free reign and how that works really well too!
Less free reign at least now with a government to keep the monarchy in check!

I feel like I should have used inverted commas for reign now. 😂

Feelingstrange2 · 13/07/2024 16:25

I don't think you can be sure its AI generated but this is the way reports are going.

My reports in the 70s had one sentence ( max 2) and a paragraph from the tutor. Usually quite harsh which I don't recommend but I do think expectations are so high of the quantity of feedback required that they've had to lose quality to make it manageable.

I think we should revert to that level of personalisation and make it real.

Teacheronholiday · 13/07/2024 16:25

All teachers will eventually use AI, even if they aren't right now. The top schools in the country are already using it.

CyprusCypress · 13/07/2024 16:28

IgnoranceNotOk · 13/07/2024 16:24

I feel like I should have used inverted commas for reign now. 😂

😂

PrivateSchoolTeacherParent · 13/07/2024 16:28

A colleague once suggested pre-printed slips with the words NO BLOODY GOOD and we just deleted as appropriate.

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:29

Teacheronholiday · 13/07/2024 16:25

All teachers will eventually use AI, even if they aren't right now. The top schools in the country are already using it.

for reports?

my son goes to a top public school and his reports are very very evidently personalised and detailed and very helpful and 3x a year

Hateam · 13/07/2024 16:31

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:29

for reports?

my son goes to a top public school and his reports are very very evidently personalised and detailed and very helpful and 3x a year

Thank god I don't teach there!

Teacheronholiday · 13/07/2024 16:34

@itistooeasy yes for reports. Maybe not every teacher because it is personal choice whether to use it or not. I certainly used it for rewording sentences or if I couldn't think of a particular phrase. Other teachers used it to write the bulk of the paragraph then just tweaked it or added a few personalised words. Others didn't use it all. This is a top private school and SLT didn't have any issues with us using AI.

CommeUneVacheEspagnole · 13/07/2024 16:35

Anything of note that I write, I write myself and then ask copilot to "write it better". I imagine that would show as 100% AI written. I don't blame a teacher for that tbh.

Meem321 · 13/07/2024 16:36

thebluebeyond · 13/07/2024 10:55

You dont know it is AI - those screening tools are very unreliable. All reports are written from a comment bank, so the teacher choses the comments relevant to your child.

Not all reports are written from a bank of comments. My school dies not provide a bank; we have to write them individually.

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:36

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:29

for reports?

my son goes to a top public school and his reports are very very evidently personalised and detailed and very helpful and 3x a year

And I would put money on the teacher not having to write 30 of them if primary or 30 per class if secondary.
I only had to write 10 or 15 mine would be personalised and detailed too.

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:37

Hateam · 13/07/2024 16:31

Thank god I don't teach there!

as am i

thebluebeyond · 13/07/2024 16:37

Meem321 · 13/07/2024 16:36

Not all reports are written from a bank of comments. My school dies not provide a bank; we have to write them individually.

Then you create your own bank of comments

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:38

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:36

And I would put money on the teacher not having to write 30 of them if primary or 30 per class if secondary.
I only had to write 10 or 15 mine would be personalised and detailed too.

they have to write for many many many more than 30!

these are subject teachers in a secondary school

each class has between 18-20

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:39

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:36

And I would put money on the teacher not having to write 30 of them if primary or 30 per class if secondary.
I only had to write 10 or 15 mine would be personalised and detailed too.

they don’t teach ONE class a week 😆

different year groups
different sets

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:46

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:38

they have to write for many many many more than 30!

these are subject teachers in a secondary school

each class has between 18-20

I actually said in my post or 30 per class in secondary.
It’s not a contest but say a subject teacher teaches 25 lessons a week probably sees each class 3 times a week so 8 classes. 8 x 18 is 144 comments.
I’m doing 14 comments per report so 420 comments.
Just accept it is massive job, it’s longer than my dissertation.

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:52

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:39

they don’t teach ONE class a week 😆

different year groups
different sets

Edited

Oh dear, you do think you are clever don’t you.
I am not an idiot, subject specialist write 1 comment per child but teach more children.
Primary teachers write many comments per child.
It is a massive job but smaller classes mean less to write either way.

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:54

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:46

I actually said in my post or 30 per class in secondary.
It’s not a contest but say a subject teacher teaches 25 lessons a week probably sees each class 3 times a week so 8 classes. 8 x 18 is 144 comments.
I’m doing 14 comments per report so 420 comments.
Just accept it is massive job, it’s longer than my dissertation.

Edited

the school is as large as a large secondary in terms of numbers

the year groups are as large

but they are broken down to 18-20 classes according to sets

so the teachers see many sets of 18-20
they will have same number as a state school teacher

Kettricken · 13/07/2024 16:54

My DH is a primary school teacher and he used AI to help write his reports this year. The head teacher apparently recommended all the teachers use it and he found it shortened the process no end. Usually he spends all of May half term writing reports. This year it took him a day to do the initial AI bit and another day to tweak them all. I can’t see him doing it any other way now.

twentysevendresses · 13/07/2024 16:55

Prapsfound · 13/07/2024 11:07

I would be upset if this is the case. I would expect it to be personalised to my child, there are only 30 in the class…however I am pretty sure my school doesn’t do this.

'There are only 30 in a class' 🤦‍♀️

Have you ever written an and of year report? I have...for the past 30 years! Each one takes me around an hour...sometimes longer depending on the actual child (the trickier ones can take 90 minutes 😵‍💫)

I haven't used AI and I don't use a 'statement bank', which are also popular with some teachers, as I think this takes longer! At the very minimum I've spent 30 hours writing them, another 10 or so sourcing photographs of each child through their year in my class (my school policy on reports is a minimum of 4 photographs illustrating their 'learning journey'), several hours proofreading and editing and a couple of hours printing and binding (we bind them all!)

So, in all, around 50 hours of extra work. This is more than a full time equivalent 'working week' for the average person. Only...we do this in our own time, as we are already doing a full time working week teaching!

I'm NOT moaning...I KNOW it's my job...but for the love of god, think about what you are saying before posting such a comment! 'There are only 30 in a class!' 😵‍💫

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:56

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:54

the school is as large as a large secondary in terms of numbers

the year groups are as large

but they are broken down to 18-20 classes according to sets

so the teachers see many sets of 18-20
they will have same number as a state school teacher

No they won’t you silly goose.
There are only so many hours in the day.
If the classes are a third of the size they would have to teach a third more lessons to have the same amount of pupils.
Goodness me I hope nobody paid for your education.

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:56

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:52

Oh dear, you do think you are clever don’t you.
I am not an idiot, subject specialist write 1 comment per child but teach more children.
Primary teachers write many comments per child.
It is a massive job but smaller classes mean less to write either way.

what on earth are you on about

and there’s loads of forms within each year group

because the school itself is as large as a secondary school in terms of numbers!

so it’s not about how many per class

it’s about how big the school roll is

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:56

MyArtfulOpalBiscuit · 13/07/2024 16:56

No they won’t you silly goose.
There are only so many hours in the day.
If the classes are a third of the size they would have to teach a third more lessons to have the same amount of pupils.
Goodness me I hope nobody paid for your education.

but much much longer hours plus saturday school!!

Gladtobeout · 13/07/2024 16:57

itistooeasy · 13/07/2024 16:56

what on earth are you on about

and there’s loads of forms within each year group

because the school itself is as large as a secondary school in terms of numbers!

so it’s not about how many per class

it’s about how big the school roll is

It's really not...

MigGirl · 13/07/2024 16:57

I think we'll see more of this, there are AI software out there now designed specifically for teaching.

Not everyone is using it yet but I'm sure that more younger teachers will use it. Especially if it saves time.