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Do you give your all at work?

93 replies

WorkerBee123 · 10/07/2024 18:15

I work in a highly qualified but very very underpaid company, 100% from home. I have to log the hours worked and so I exaggerate them. This means I work about 2/3 of my hours. I get everything done, exceed targets etc. Anyone else do similar?

OP posts:
JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 10/07/2024 19:15

Nope. I do enough to get my work done and that’s that.

Edited to add-they don’t pay me enough to put my life and soul into it.

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 10/07/2024 19:15

No. I like my job and I’m good at my job but my work/life balance is definitely tilted towards life.

I work hard when in the office so I can be pretty lazy and do the bare minimum when WFH.

Weetabbix · 10/07/2024 19:15

Dinnerdinnerchickenwinner · 10/07/2024 18:17

So you commit theft then? (Time theft is a form of defrauding an employer).

Op is getting everything done that is needed and is exceeding targets.

If the employer is unhappy then they can raise it - but they're clearly not.

midgetastic · 10/07/2024 19:18

Are the anti wfh bots out to play again ?

The way we can be manipulated by social media these days is quite something

Kellyanne555 · 10/07/2024 19:19

Weetabbix · 10/07/2024 19:15

Op is getting everything done that is needed and is exceeding targets.

If the employer is unhappy then they can raise it - but they're clearly not.

It doesn't matter if she gets all her tasks done.

People have been fired for not working their ser hours from home.

There were a lot of cases of this recently in the news.

Kellyanne555 · 10/07/2024 19:20

midgetastic · 10/07/2024 19:18

Are the anti wfh bots out to play again ?

The way we can be manipulated by social media these days is quite something

Who's anti wfh on here.

I love working from home.

However I am realistic to know that my every move on my work laptop is monitored and recorded by my employer.

Monitoring software is very advanced these days, especially as working from home as increased a lot.they want to monitor us

LadyTinHat · 10/07/2024 19:21

I’ve just had my mid year review and my manager is very pleased with my productivity, which has scored 121% for the last 3 months.

I wfh 2 days a week and don’t do much at all when I’m home. I work very hard the 3 days I’m in the office though.

Im actually doing the same amount as when I worked 5 days in the office. I used to waste around 2 hours a day chatting, getting coffee, going on the internet etc. Now I work more effectively when I’m in the office instead so I can enjoy my ‘home’ time. My work are happy so I’m not going to do more even though I could really.

RobinHood19 · 10/07/2024 19:26

I give my all and then some. I’m in a competitive entertainment / arts industry so to be positively noticed you turn up 1 hour before the actual work begins (contract only specifies 15 minutes). I do between 3-5 hours of “unpaid” work / practice on top of scheduled hours (I could get by with 1.5-2h probably). These are obviously not unpaid in the end as they pay off in being asked for additional projects, recommendations for XYZ etc.

It is very obvious who does and who doesn’t do all the extra work, and sadly in my field doing just the bare minimum means you’ll never get a salaried position and will have to complement income in a different way (tough to make a living wage).

Now I am more established and also teach / mentor the young people coming up, I make sure to tell them very clearly how much work is expected between ages 14-30 approx, if they want to really succeed. It’s the simple reality of the job.

motherofkevinnotperry · 10/07/2024 19:28

WorkerBee123 · 10/07/2024 18:15

I work in a highly qualified but very very underpaid company, 100% from home. I have to log the hours worked and so I exaggerate them. This means I work about 2/3 of my hours. I get everything done, exceed targets etc. Anyone else do similar?

If I was your manager and I found this out you'd be on formal proceedings instantly. There's nothing to be proud of here.

Thetroutofnocraic1 · 10/07/2024 19:29

I used to work in hospitals and gave my all for years and years and got no thanks whatsoever for it. I now work in an office job. I arrive on time , do what work has to be done and leave. I rarely stay late unless it suits me or there is a rare emergency. And I don’t take the p*ss with phoning in sick unless I actually am sick. I work to live. I work in a great place at the moment but I won’t let myself be taken advantage of like I was for years in hospitals.

AutumnBride · 10/07/2024 19:40

WorkerBee123 · 10/07/2024 18:15

I work in a highly qualified but very very underpaid company, 100% from home. I have to log the hours worked and so I exaggerate them. This means I work about 2/3 of my hours. I get everything done, exceed targets etc. Anyone else do similar?

Logging inflated hours is the way to get sacked, I work from home very flexibly but I'm not asked to record my hours, if I was it would be done accurately.

lazzapazza · 10/07/2024 19:48

Are they asking you to log the hours worked and then you only get paid for the hours worked?

Or are they asking for time recording where you have to break down how much time you spend on each task but you still have to work a set number of hours each day?

Sleepersausage · 10/07/2024 19:52

Kellyanne555 · 10/07/2024 19:00

Eh most of them do it.

Did you not know that?

Did you not just see in the news where a large company in the US fired work from home staff, as they tracked their mouse clicks, and were able to prove that the employees were not at their desk working for large amounts of time in the day

No I didn't, I've only ever really worked in small businesses or public sector too 🤷

Caffeineneedednow · 10/07/2024 20:02

Im a lecturer, If its based ont he last 2-3 weeks then yeah I have not got a huge amount to do and procrastinate / go to the gym occasionally or take a long lunch.

If you asked me in the middle of marking season I work 730 to 1745 ( nursery hours) with lunch at my desk and often still need to work at the weekend or in the evening when the kids were down.

My job is peaks and troughs and after a year from hell where I ended up burnt out and having panic attacks, I'm not too worried about a calmer few weeks in the summer.

If my employer cared then frankly I could work to my hours and miss the majority of my deadlines. Luckily they are OK with the way we work.

GeorgeBeckett · 10/07/2024 20:02

I definitely work far more than I’m paid to and routinely work all day one day a week and then put the kids to bed and log back in until midnight. So I don’t feel bad for employing a bit of flexibility and starting slightly later on my two quieter days or taking the kids to hospital appointments and moving the work around. I’m not asked to log my hours and flexibility goes both ways. I’ll take a call on the weekend even if I’m not on call. I’ve got quite niche specialisms and am not easy to replace. I don't think they’ll want to look to closely at hours as they know who’s getting the good deal overall - them.

neverbeenskiing · 10/07/2024 20:11

I give my all when I'm there, because I love my job, I really like my team and I can see the difference I'm making which makes me feel good. But I leave on time and don't take work home with me.

mrlistersgelfbride · 10/07/2024 20:15

Not exactly but I'm slightly overqualified for my job and often there isn't much to do.
I do everything required of me with a smile, I do my hours plus any extra that needs it and try my best. It doesn't quite feel like giving it my all though.

I worked myself into the ground when I was younger and I finished off a research masters doing long hours when DD was a baby.
Had enough now. I work to live not the other way round.

Wonkybrolly · 10/07/2024 20:24

This is timely for me! I’ve just been refused a pay rise which is dreadfully deflating, embarrassing and quite insulting. My job role has changed significantly since I joined and I have a lot of risk on my shoulders in my work. But since they aren’t paying for it (industry averages are £10k more for a similar role) I’ve been slacking off for the last 3 days.

I am on the job hunt. I am not motivated to give it my everything anymore. And my manager understands this. He really fought with HR to level up my pay, provided evidence that I’m great at my job and do more than I should - and they still said no.

Today, I didn’t do any work above my pay grade and had a bit of extra time to relax in the sun! 😂 🤷‍♀️

I am too conscientious to make it a long term habit. But while I’m upset at how little I’m valued - I’ll be slacking off with my managers approval.

Hope I find a new job soon! Just changed my LinkedIn to “open to work” but I expect HR will moan about that too.

JamSandle · 10/07/2024 20:25

I give my all. But starting to get stressed so pulling back.

BeachHutsAndDeckchairs · 10/07/2024 20:28

I can't work from home and no, I don't. I do what is needed, and sometimes give my own time if absolutely necessary, but I will not sacrifice my life and family for work, where I am ten a penny easily replaceable.

Didimum · 10/07/2024 20:29

Some people are just very efficient at work. Hours are arbitrary, productivity is the goal.

HaPPy8 · 10/07/2024 20:31

Willsean · 10/07/2024 18:38

No, they're paid for 1265 directed hours over 195 days a year, which doesn't include lunch times.

Before school, during lunch, after school, weekends and holidays are all unpaid, but that doesn't mean the planning and marking for 5 lessons a day can be done without working in them.

Oh you said you were paid 830-330 which is only 7 hours and quite a short day

supermamio · 10/07/2024 20:35

It takes most of my effort just to stay in the building for my full shift, theres very little left to actually do work 😂

maddiemookins16mum · 10/07/2024 20:49

Nope. I do everything I have to do (and do it very well) but when they pay me 23K a year (full time) and say there is no money for more (yet make huge profits), they can feck right off. I only stay because it’s 100% wfh and I’m fast approaching 60. My customer service is great, I get great feedback, exceed my targets and win the monthly award several times a year. But I do no more than I have to. I switch off bang on 4pm, take a full lunch and never offer to do extra. I can’t wait for the Olympics to start soon. I also do my housework and hang washing out. I’m lucky in that I find the job easy.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/07/2024 20:55

Thetroutofnocraic1 · 10/07/2024 19:29

I used to work in hospitals and gave my all for years and years and got no thanks whatsoever for it. I now work in an office job. I arrive on time , do what work has to be done and leave. I rarely stay late unless it suits me or there is a rare emergency. And I don’t take the p*ss with phoning in sick unless I actually am sick. I work to live. I work in a great place at the moment but I won’t let myself be taken advantage of like I was for years in hospitals.

It's the same with schools, I think. People think that school office jobs must be a nice little job. Well, I had my eyes opened to that one a few years back when I took one. I'm still there but only just. Not sure my blood pressure can take much more than a year or two. It's the busiest, most stressful job, probably worst paid job I've ever had. Work through lunch, stay late, extra pay blah blah.

It's a bit annoying when I read people on here saying they just do the minimum and sometimes less than that. "I meet my targets and that's what they pay me for so who cares if I'm kicking around the house for an hour every day having completed everything. I'm good at what I do, I'm just efficient." Do you really think that in a a proper workplace if you'd finished everything your manager would just let you get off early? No, they'd probably decided that they'd underestimated the targets you were given, and you needed some more work/a project to fill the hours you were paid to do. I mean, I guess some people avoid this by just deliberately wasting time at the coffee machine or photocopier or going on messages or something and still claiming "Well I've met all my targets so....". But that would be noticed by a good manager and those are the people who are passed over for promotion or receive just an average annual performance management mark. The people who go the extra mile or approach their line manager to ask if they could help on another team etc, i.e. make full use of their working hours are the ones who are noticed and who get on in good workplaces.