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... to think that a couple of nearly 70 should not be commissioning a child through surrogacy?

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/07/2024 13:57

See article below, and extract from it with the key facts. This is abhorrent. This child was bought. There really is no other way to look at this. He was conceived for a 69yo man, whose sperm was used along with donor eggs from an unknown American woman, and a woman of presumably similar age, who paid another woman to go through the pregnancy and birth. The couple could never reasonably have expected to see this child to live to adulthood, and in fact the commissioning mother has already died. A couple of this age would not be allowed to adopt a child in the UK because in law the child's welfare comes first (rightly). The use of surrogacy puts a coach and horses through that. It ought to be banned in every country of the world, as it is in fact in a great many, but I'm not holding my breath on the US seeing sense in this area any times soon.

I don't see what else the court could have done here, given that the damage was already done. Poor little boy.

Edinburgh sheriff grants parental order recognising 72-year-old man and late wife as parents of three-year-old boy | Scottish Legal News

On 21 August 2020, A was born in the State of Oklahoma. The first petitioner’s gametes were used to bring about the creation of the embryo of the child along with the gametes of an American donor, with the surrogate who carried the child and her husband consenting to the making of the order. The State of Oklahoma issued a birth certificate on 2 October 2020 recording the petitioners as the child’s mother and father.

Due to Covid-19 travel restrictions, the first petitioner was unable to travel to the USA until July 2021, while the second petitioner’s health prevented her travel altogether. During the intervening period, A was cared for by a professional nanny, who agreed to act as A’s guardian in the event that the first petitioner died before A turned 18. A decision was made by the first petitioner not to apply for an order as a single parent, necessitating a guardianship order in respect of the second petitioner. This was granted by Dundee Sheriff Court in May 2023.

A was brought to Scotland by the first petitioner in August 2021. He visited the second petitioner in her nursing home three times a week for 21 months and recognised her as his mother. The first petitioner, while outwith the normal accepted range of parenthood, was described as active and energetic, and had enrolled A in nursery and researched boarding schools for his secondary education.

It was submitted that it was better for A that a parental order be granted than no order be made at all. ...

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AquaFurball · 08/07/2024 18:52

crockofshite · 08/07/2024 14:34

If Scotland is allowing this they're not ready for independence...

It's not Scottish law that's the problem here, if it was all above board they wouldn't have been using an American surrogate in the first place. They would never have been allowed to do this in the UK, the welfare of the child would have been put first.

AquaFurball · 08/07/2024 18:56

AlpineMuesli · 08/07/2024 18:26

Update on Galip Ozturk (58yo man who had 9 kids and then decided to purchase 21 more)

8 Year prison sentence.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/turkish-bus-magnate-gets-8-year-sentence-in-georgia-on-drug-charges-1.1888596.amp.html

My suspicion is the whole thing was also a money laundering or tax evasion move.

Or something more sinister.

I will never believe this sort of prolific surrogacy isn't a sick fetish.

BlowDryRat · 08/07/2024 19:02

Shame on everyone involved in "commissioning" this poor child.

AlpineMuesli · 09/07/2024 15:18

TemuSpecialBuy · 08/07/2024 18:34

Appallingly the mother rotates the nannies so the children have NO PRIMARY CARER.

Absolutely revolting.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/27617833/bigm-family-kids-kristina-ozturk/
However, despite being criticised for ''buying kids'', the Georgia-based mum, has no plans of stopping any time soon - Kristina previously revealed she wants to hit triple digits.

I’m trolled for 'buying' 22 kids via surrogate at 26 - but I won't stop

KRISTINA Ozturk may be just 26, but she’s already a mum to a whopping 22 babies via surrogacy. The Russian-born blogger welcomed 21 surrogate babies into the world with millionaire businessma…

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/27617833/bigm-family-kids-kristina-ozturk

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