Driving: am I wrong or… everyone else? (with actual real world map)

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Quite a frequent route for me… I’m the red car, wanting to turn right from Cranston Road onto Woolstone Road. The green car wants to go straight ahead from Houston Road to Cranston Road.

We’ve both stopped at the stop sign to check it’s clear for us to move on. No cars are coming in either direction on Woolstone Road but I wait for the green car to move off as I think I should give priority to them as they are going straight ahead.

But nine out of 10 times, the green car continues waiting behind the stop line and seems to think that I have priority in making my right turn. Sometimes they flash their headlights to tell me to go.

It seems mad to me that a right turn would have priority but it happens so often that I’m wondering what I’ve missed.

I have looked at the Highway Code but I can’t find any guidance… can anyone explain what’s meant to happen?

I always fully stop, completely behind the line in case you’re wondering.

Thank you!

That's just plain wrong. If there is nothing coming from either direction on Woolstone Road and both red and green move forward they're fine and in no danger or crashing as Green is just going straight across Woolstone Road UNLESS Red turns right - into the path of Green. You would never turn right into oncoming traffic, you have to wait for a gap.

It's possible to both move off from the stop sign a the same time and avoid each other if you are both aware of the speed of the other. Green can move off at a normal speed and Red can move off at the same time only at a slower speed and then Green will already have almost crossed Woolstone Road and be out Red's way by the time they're wanting to turn across.

I think it's supposed to be an eye contact thing- you negotiate by catching the other person's eye. Once the straight on car has stopped, it's no skin off his nose to let you go and it's safer and more controlled to do while the straight on car is looking at you and waving you through.

Otherwise you have to dodge the oncoming traffic to turn. It's safest to turn when everyone has stopped.

If you're on insta OfficialJobber covered this on 16th June- car going straight over has priority over car turning right.

Red as green is crossing the carriageway that red is on

Fair enough. Tbh I didn't really see it as a crossroads as such and thought where the car was turning from was slightly off to the right (from the green car). It's not completely even and straight so maybe that's why 90% are waiting?

If it's a direct crossroads then yes green car goes and the red car waits.

Red is driving from minor road onto major road, green is driving from minor road to minor road, therefore red has right of way.

Green has priority as they aren't crossing anyone else's path. If you're crossing someone else's path, you have to wait for them. Going straight always has priority, and if there's two cars turning into the same side road at the same time the one turning left has priority over the one turning right.

The only time there's no clear priority is if two cars opposite each other are both wanting to do right turns at a crossroads. In that case, you have to negotiate between you.

What are you talking about? BOTH cars will be moving onto the junction. If they both move out at the same time they are both on it. You never turn right into oncoming traffic, so Red would be totally at fault if they drove into Green. They shouldn't be trying to diagonally cut in front of Green.

But Red has stopped at the stop sign too!!! Both Red and Green are moving off from their STOP sign at the same time. You NEVER turn right into oncoming traffic. It is very clear cut who has priority. Whether Green would be polite and wave clearly to Red to go in front of them is entirely a different thing. But if they didn't wave at Red to do this then it's assumed by everyone that Green is moving straight across the junction and no-one should be turning right into them.

It always confused me when I drove in the UK. It’s irrelevant to you, however here in Canada there are usually signs (3-way, 4-way etc) which means whoever got there first has right of way. If it’s a 4 way junction the cars take turns in order of who got there 1st, 2nd etc regardless of who is going left, right, straight

But green has to giveaway to the rd at red is turning onto
even though green is going straight across there is a stop and giveaway on the junction
do anything that is on on turning onto the red rd has priority as indicated by the fact the green rd had to giveaway to the red rd

if it was an unmarked junction I would agree with you but it’s not

What is telling you that the roads are minor or major? Mind boggling...

This is where American style stop signs would be useful - then it's whoever arrives at the junction first, goes first.. which makes sense to me.

We live on a similar junction and most seem to follow 'who got there first' right of way

'You have no rights when turning right' my instructor told me. Seems green car people are being nice to you.

God, I agree. Or some people are on a mega windup.

Correct.

WTAF? 😂Have you missed the STOP sign that the Red car also has to adhere to?

I don't think some people responding have passed their test yet....

This is what would happen at a roundabout, but this isn’t a roundabout. The car going straight has priority.
At a roundabout, yes, the car coming from the right has priority as it is already on the road. In this scenario, neither car is on the main road and the one going straight has priority.

They both have to give way to traffic already on the road, but the red car should also give way to the green car because it's crossing the green car's path. The green car has priority.

For me it's quite simple, I'd give way to the car turning because they could they could be sat there for ages. Ordinarily though, whoever is first to the junction.

In this particular situation, I think it's irrelevant whether a car is turning or going straight across. The first one to the junction gets to go first, once the road is clear.