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What do out of work MPs do? Do they find another job?!

126 replies

AutismHelp1980 · 04/07/2024 23:26

Just that really?! I know Rishi will start making more money on the circuit now so to speak. But what do all the others do? What sort of jobs?

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flamesdancing · 05/07/2024 09:10

Squareplate · 05/07/2024 08:57

That's the pont PP's making. MPs often do come from privilege because if you need to work for a living, it's a risky and poorly paid job (relative to the skills required).

Exactly this. The current system results in a disproportionate number of independently wealthy/old Etonian types, partly because they’re the ones who can take the financial risk.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/07/2024 09:27

Retiredearly61 · 05/07/2024 09:04

I think he’s better at that than he was as a politician, really like the show!

Agree! We've seen dozens of them. Relaxing viewing.

Chanel05 · 05/07/2024 09:49

AutismHelp1980 · 04/07/2024 23:29

And all their staff? They’re just redundant?

Yes, that's what happens.

My husband works for an MP who stood down at this election and he has been made redundant. If the MP would have stood and lost, that would have also resulted in redundancy.

They are allowed winding down costs for the staff to do "reasonable"work so DH is paid until November and this will be the case for all MP’s staff. The MPs who have lost seats will now have to make staff redundant (they are sent a detailed email explaining what to say and what can be expected / requested) and the MP can decide how long they wish to keep each member of staff on from now, between 0 days and the four months as mentioned. They just have to inform IPSA who are the organisation who pay staff.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/07/2024 09:54

@Chanel05, obviously only answer if you feel comfortable to, but is your husband hoping to get a job with a new MP, if that's feasible, given the results? Best wishes for his jobsearch, anyway.

Bobcat246 · 05/07/2024 09:55

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 05/07/2024 00:50

£90,000 per annum being an MP. £30,000 per lecture/tv presentation/ evening talk .
They will be fine.

Only if you're a high profile former Cabinet minister. Nobody will pay a backbencher for that.

fleabites · 05/07/2024 09:56

They do what everyone else who loses their job does - polish up their CV and apply for jobs that are relevant to their skill set/qualifications.
Some of them will be headhunted.

Meadowwild · 05/07/2024 09:57

LaurieFairyCake · 04/07/2024 23:30

Liz truss was prime minister for 30 days and will get £90,000 every year PENSION for it

Absolutely sickening

It's a disgrace.

DaggerIsle · 05/07/2024 09:59

LaurieFairyCake · 04/07/2024 23:30

Liz truss was prime minister for 30 days and will get £90,000 every year PENSION for it

Absolutely sickening

She also gets security detail for life.

flamesdancing · 05/07/2024 10:06

DaggerIsle · 05/07/2024 09:59

She also gets security detail for life.

Someone on this thread has already said that this isn’t actually true (the 90,000 pension) and yet people keep posting it and getting outraged about it.

Also, no matter how awful she was as PM (and believe me I do think she was awful), why on earth shouldn’t she be entitled to security. Two MPs have been murdered in the past eight years because of their role. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that ex-PMs are entitled to security.

Chanel05 · 05/07/2024 10:07

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/07/2024 09:54

@Chanel05, obviously only answer if you feel comfortable to, but is your husband hoping to get a job with a new MP, if that's feasible, given the results? Best wishes for his jobsearch, anyway.

No, that's not his plan. He has known for over a year now that his employer would step down at the election so was expecting it. He has worked with the MP for a very long time so redundancy isn't too bad. He has sort of reached the top of where he can possibly be within his office and another MP's staffing role wouldn't offer any progression as such. Also, he is paid really well and I'm not sure a different MP would offer the same pay either.

DaggerIsle · 05/07/2024 11:10

flamesdancing · 05/07/2024 10:06

Someone on this thread has already said that this isn’t actually true (the 90,000 pension) and yet people keep posting it and getting outraged about it.

Also, no matter how awful she was as PM (and believe me I do think she was awful), why on earth shouldn’t she be entitled to security. Two MPs have been murdered in the past eight years because of their role. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that ex-PMs are entitled to security.

Edited

She lives in my neighbourhood. I see her rather often on walks, going to a local beauty salon etc and she is always followed by 2 security guys, who incidentally are much more polite than she is!

flamesdancing · 05/07/2024 11:13

DaggerIsle · 05/07/2024 11:10

She lives in my neighbourhood. I see her rather often on walks, going to a local beauty salon etc and she is always followed by 2 security guys, who incidentally are much more polite than she is!

Not sure if you misunderstood my post but I said it’s the pension part which isn’t true, not the security entitlement.

TerroristToddler · 05/07/2024 11:18

behindthemall · 05/07/2024 08:17

Absolutely not. I get paid more than they do and it’s enough to maintain a three bed house in the North and a reasonable lifestyle. I couldn’t afford the job insecurity of being an MP, nor would I take a pay cut for a job that has a much higher public profile and gravity than my own.

MPs do not get paid enough for what the role demands and the job insecurity. That is the reason the House of Commons is made up of wealthy Etonians.

I come from a working class background with no family wealth and a husband on a slightly above average salary. I like the idea of being an MP, I just can’t afford to be one.

Completely agree!

I get paid more than an MP by a small distance and DH is a FT teacher. Together that household income pays for our very typical, abosolutely-unfancy 3-bed semi-detached house in South, running 2 cars that are 10+ years old and paying for toddler's childcare bill! I certainly don't have endless streams of cash left over to cushion the blow if I lose my job and can't find another one!

The thought that an MP is overpaid on £90K is part of the problem with politics. It is a good salary in a normal job, but for the exposure and risk of being an MP (exposure to your family, risk of harm to you and family members, lack of long-term job security) it isn't actually much. Certainly the MPs that have previously worked in banking, legal etc. will have taken a substantial pay-cut to become an MP - and you can only do this if you come from wealth to begin with.

DaggerIsle · 05/07/2024 11:29

flamesdancing · 05/07/2024 11:13

Not sure if you misunderstood my post but I said it’s the pension part which isn’t true, not the security entitlement.

You're right I misunderstood! Sorry. 😂
Security is an interesting issue though. Considering how short her premiership was, it does seem rather excessive.
I could understand while she was still an MP, but now?

Feelingstrange2 · 05/07/2024 12:53

I have a feeling they are not made to drop their original job any more so many do something else as well as be an MP and that has caused contention too. Those MPs will probably just slot back in to those roles full time.

However, I don't suppose the majority have work that suits that sort of arrangement, so most will.now be looking for work or retiring, perhaps.

Longma · 05/07/2024 13:00

Some of the more vocal ones will be able to make a fair amount of money from becoming speakers at business events, etc. too.

Slugsandsnailsresidehere · 05/07/2024 13:03

Someone sent me this ;)

What do out of work MPs do? Do they find another job?!
Labyrinthian · 05/07/2024 13:38

FirstFallopians · 05/07/2024 00:22

DH has a familial connection to a one term Irish TD.

When he lost his seat he went into lobbying- basically offering companies an insight on how the inner machinations of government worked, and how to try to influence policy to their benefit.

He did very well out of it.

It's a bit different in Ireland though - absolutely loads of our TD's are from either teaching or a publican background (at one point it was over 60%) and the teachers have their job guaranteed to be kept open for them no matter how many years they are in the Dail - and a decent enough percentage are farmers so the publicans and farmers can keep their jobs while serving as a TD. (To be fair this is the country that had a dual mandate too until recent years - so you could keep a local and national seat and revert to one of you lost the other - we finally got that sorted though!)

Galliano · 05/07/2024 19:18

MPs who earn £80k do have access to a lot more benefits than other £80k earners eg means to stay in London so I think accustomed to a nicer lifestyle than £80k salary would normally buy.
I imagine that a lot of networking went on alongside campaigning and a lot of ex MPs already have a fair idea of their next move rather than now have to start looking from scratch.
Our red wall Tory has served one term before being beaten and he really was so mediocre seeming I imagine £80k might have been a pay rise for him, but I think most people take a pay cut to become an MP. Pretty sure Keir Starmer would have earned more as the DPP than as a back bench MP for example.

DeadlyKnightshade · 05/07/2024 21:58

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/07/2024 23:31

One Some of them end up presenting one railway programme after another across every terrestrial channel.

Maybe Rees-Smug might get a job doing history programmes.
Horrible Histories might be quite appropriate.

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/07/2024 22:04

Maybe some journo-researcher could look into how many, if any, unelected MPs ended up in pecuniary; I bagzee the idea so PM me if you want a great, aged, toothless researcher....

MasterBeth · 05/07/2024 22:05

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 05/07/2024 00:50

£90,000 per annum being an MP. £30,000 per lecture/tv presentation/ evening talk .
They will be fine.

No-one is paying some one-term Tory thirty grand to give a talk unless they have some other skill/experience/notieriety.

DeadlyKnightshade · 05/07/2024 22:11

VotesAndGoats · 05/07/2024 07:16

I'm so worried about Rishi 😂

I don't think he will have been online completing his UC application today.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/07/2024 07:40

DeadlyKnightshade · 05/07/2024 21:58

Maybe Rees-Smug might get a job doing history programmes.
Horrible Histories might be quite appropriate.

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No thank you! I want him to sink into obscurity now. He'll have plenty to do counting his money. Nanny will look after him.

FOJN · 06/07/2024 07:50

Nick Clegg is reportedly earning 15 million a year at Facebook in a role his wiki page suggests he had no previous experience in.