To tell you you can still vote if your postal vote didn’t turn up

[Tygertiger]

Go to your postal station with photo ID and they will give you a tendered ballot paper. You can absolutely still vote. You’ve got til 10pm. Do it!

How do you knowbif it turned up or not?

Well presumably you would know if it was at your house or not…

I meant if it arrived for counting rather than stuck in post

Tendered ballots aren't counted. They are used to identify issues.

This isn’t true. If your postal vote didn’t arrive you could apply for a new one in person today, but only up until 5pm.

You can’t simply turn up at a polling station and vote normally.

You'd still only get one vote as you would need to get the replacement ballot before 5pm

When postal votes are received they are marked of the Absent Voters register so they would still only get one vote that counted.

The tendered ballots can only be given out if the PO is satisfied with answers to prescribed questions. And tendered ballots are not counted as part of the main result.

It’s in the handbook for polling station staff. Tendered ballot papers are given directly to the presiding officer following the elector answering some questions. Google it!

Don't need to google. I've been a PO for 20 years.

Tendered ballots are given on satisfactory answer to proscribed questions. They don't count though. That's why they are recorded separately and don't go in the ballot box

They do count. They’re counted separately just as postal votes are.

Is too late now anyway but I would respectfully refer you to
Page 33 of the Handbook

Tendered ballots record that someone has been unable to vote. They're not counted. How can they be, when they are disputed ballots

Anyway, hopefully no one turned up at a polling station and demanded their vote.

P33 is supporting disabled voters?

I’m assuming you mean p44. I’ve read that and the legislation and I cannot see anything that states they are not counted. The legislation states that they are marked by the voter in the same way as a ballot paper and then if it is found that the voter is correct in their assertion that their original vote was invalid then the tendered one counts.

If you can get to the polling station you wouldn't have needed a postal vote

I'm not arguing with you, I've been PO for many many elections. . If it makes it easier Appendix 5b - screenshot attached.

Presumably you mean prescribed questions? You wouldn't be allowed to ask proscribed questions....

(Apologies for the pedantry. It's an issue of mine. I'll seek help one day.)

Ok @CasperGutman. If it makes you feel better, it was a typo. I spelled correctly in my previous post.

There's a huge difference between one typo and giving incorrect voting information.

Whatever floats your boat though 🤷🏻‍♀️

Pedants' corner is that way >>>

So why try to make it someone else's issue, just because you're too dim to realise it was clearly a typo?

If I could get to a polling station I wouldn't have requested a postal vote

While I don't really want to drag this out, you did ask...

I mentioned it, on this anonymous forum, because I don't think it was necessarily a typographical error as such (which is an error in the mechanical process of producing text, e.g., a slip of the finger on the keyboard). The letters o and e are well separated on the keyboard. This error is frequently seen, and presumably at least some of those who make it don't realise there's a difference between the meanings of the two words - in large part because you see them used in place of each other so often. It's more akin to the difficulties many people have in distinguishing between there, their and they're.

If I muddled up two near-homophones with pretty much opposite meanings, I'd appreciate being told as much, to avoid potentially making embarrassing/confusing errors later. Obviously it doesn't matter much in a post on here, but similar errors could be more consequential in a professional context and wouldn't be caught by a spell check.

I suppose my slight joke about my pedantry was supposed to make the point that I didn't regard the error as especially serious, so that the person who made the error wouldn't feel too harshly criticised. On reflection, it is apparent that I do care.

I think it's time for MNHQ to start getting hot on your sort of rude behaviour.

They did a little while back, and started deleting and then banning people for it.

This is your problem as you acknowledged earlier and the only purpose you're serving here, is to make yourself feel better about making another poster feel like shit.

Oh wow.

I made a minor factual point about what was objectively an error, and tried to do it in a slightly lighthearted, "Aren't I silly caring about this?" kind of way. Your response was overtly offensive, calling me "dim". Your first reply to me asked a question, which I tried to answer civilly only to receive your last frankly ridiculous overreaction suggesting I "have a problem", implying I should be subject to "deleting and then banning" and accusing me of "making another poster feel like shit". I really think that only one person has been out-and-out rude here, and it isn't me.

For the record, I genuinely hope I haven't made anyone feel like shit. I absolutely didn't want that. I really don't think anyone needs to feel even mild embarrassment at any minor error on this thread. A culture in which errors can't be mentioned for fear of causing offence is an unhealthy one, and I meant it when I said I would want a similar mistake I made to be pointed out so I could avoid it in future.

In the spirit of being receptive to others pointing out my mistakes, I accept I was wrong here. I should have let the error pass as the intended meaning was clear. I would be embarrassed if someone corrected an analogous error in my pronunciation in an in-person discussion, and while I would be more receptive to such a correction in this anonymous forum I understand others may validly feel differently.

I apologise for my comment, @wtfissummer.

Thanks @TheresaCrowd but it didn't make me feel shit at all although I appreciate the support.

I didn't feel shame, only pity

Fuck me, I've read the follow up 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I feel pity too, especially after the follow up.

But I do think the sole aim of that sort of behaviour is to make the poster feel like shit, while the people in question preen their feathers and claim they 'can't help it'.

Of course they can, they can scroll past or log off anytime they like.

Anyway, hopefully MNHQ will start cracking down again on this unpleasant behavior.

Please stop projecting, @TheresaCrowd . You have absolutely no idea about the motivation for my initial comment. Making someone feel like shit wasn't something I wanted to do today.

I can 100% attest to the fact that you've made me feel like shit though, especially when I apologised and got snide remarks about "pity" in response.

This is my last word on this tedious subject

If that pedantic poster is feeling "shit" then maybe time for some self-reflection instead of smarmy word salads.

and the election is over so nothing more to be said