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To be a secret Tory voter and feel embarrassed about it?

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SecretToryVoter · 04/07/2024 12:41

I’ve just gone to do my vote and had to admit to myself that I’m one of those secret Tory voters and would be embarrassed to admit it to friends / family!

A month ago I was adamant that I would be voting Labour but ended up changing my mind for a number of reasons

  1. Keir seems to have a number of grand ideas of what he wants to do but no substance behind how he’s going to do it (where is he going to find an additional 6,500 teachers as just 1 example)
  2. Womens rights
  3. my Labour candidate has been helicoptered in and doesn’t look good on paper whereas the Tory candidate is a local, well respected councillor
  4. Tory policy is closer to my values overall

anyone else had to admit to themselves that they are a Tory at heart for this election?

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Itisjustmyopinion · 04/07/2024 13:34

Theweepywillow · 04/07/2024 13:20

Glad you’ll be happy, as you will be digging deep in those High earning pockets.

enjoy

Well if it means that my parents don’t have to sit in A&E for 16 hours and my relative who has cancer actually gets treated without having to fight for it then yes I will enjoy digging deep

Enjoy your yacht

newnamethanks · 04/07/2024 13:34

Yes cupcake just look at the food banks. Look at the queues! A stonking success story. Well done!

StarDolphins · 04/07/2024 13:34

newnamethanks · 04/07/2024 13:32

It's not rational to post a question on a public forum and then complain about the quality of replies.

It’s not rational for people to be aggressive & rude in their reaction.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:34

Op why are you inviting this scrum?

You have every right to vote to keep your own rights as a woman. Keir plans to rob us all of our human rights - you are dead right to vote for this even as singular issue.

I am going to vote for the conservatives as well, and will proudly do so.

BustyCrustacean · 04/07/2024 13:34

same here, OP

Coffeerum · 04/07/2024 13:35

where is he going to find an additional 6,500 teachers as just 1 example

What about the concrete examples that haven’t been delivered?
The 40 new hospitals?
The 50,000 additional nurses?

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:35

Itisjustmyopinion · 04/07/2024 13:34

Well if it means that my parents don’t have to sit in A&E for 16 hours and my relative who has cancer actually gets treated without having to fight for it then yes I will enjoy digging deep

Enjoy your yacht

This will not change under Labour.
Honestly the delusion.

baroqueandblue · 04/07/2024 13:35

As I said above, Labour will win because they’re not the Tories, not because they have anything genuine to offer in terms of change.

Says you. Try as you might, you won't spitefully convince me that Labour won't win this election (if they do) on their own considerable merits. Talk about a sore loser.

Applescruffel · 04/07/2024 13:36

I voted you are being unreasonable because you are voting tory. Why the fuck anyone would do that unless they are either stupid or selfish I do not know.

But hiding who you are voting for is perfectly reasonable. We have secret ballots for a reason and it's no-one's business.

Jetstream · 04/07/2024 13:36

SecretToryVoter · 04/07/2024 12:41

I’ve just gone to do my vote and had to admit to myself that I’m one of those secret Tory voters and would be embarrassed to admit it to friends / family!

A month ago I was adamant that I would be voting Labour but ended up changing my mind for a number of reasons

  1. Keir seems to have a number of grand ideas of what he wants to do but no substance behind how he’s going to do it (where is he going to find an additional 6,500 teachers as just 1 example)
  2. Womens rights
  3. my Labour candidate has been helicoptered in and doesn’t look good on paper whereas the Tory candidate is a local, well respected councillor
  4. Tory policy is closer to my values overall

anyone else had to admit to themselves that they are a Tory at heart for this election?

1/ The Tories had 14 years what did they do for teachers?
2/ The Tories are not for women's rights. The fundamentalist/ over-religious / Conservative thinking is high in the Tories. Look at Prue Leith’s son Danny Kruger as an example.
3/Rishi Sunak was helicoptered in to Richmond. Charged the public funds for an electrical system to support his swimming pool.
4/Well that says it all. Polluted rivers and streams, billions spent on PPE that was destroyed, dodgy expense claims by MPs, lying, dodgy VIP contracts to donors worth billions of public funds. Running disadvantaged/ ill-health citizens/ minorities into the ground whilst corporate fraud goes uncontested. Boris Johnson, privatising the NHS, judicial system is in dire straights, removing all social care supports, nothing for young people but conscription, partying while everyone stayed at home.
If you don’t believe me then look it up.
None of this was down to anyone but the Tories and their grassroots base.
Also, Tories comes from an old Irish word meaning thieves and gangsters.

AthenaBasil · 04/07/2024 13:36

I didn’t vote Tory and never have and I’m not loyal to any party. However I disagree that you should be loud and proud of who you vote for. I think it’s right that votes are secret and people have various reasons. Lots of votes are cast choosing the least bad options.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:36

Coffeerum · 04/07/2024 13:35

where is he going to find an additional 6,500 teachers as just 1 example

What about the concrete examples that haven’t been delivered?
The 40 new hospitals?
The 50,000 additional nurses?

Answer the question. 6.500 maths teachers are going to be secured where exactly??

AbraAbraCadabra · 04/07/2024 13:36

After the absolute shit show over the last x number of years, I have absolutely no idea why anyone would vote Tory. I'd be interested to know what you think they've achieved while they have been in power and how you can overlook some of the monumental fuck ups?

Zippedeedooda · 04/07/2024 13:36

Im not surprised. People are very vocal these days and many seem to think they are right no matter what.
However we live in a democracy and you can vote for whoever you want based on whatever policy or policies you want.
I think it’s more damning to not look at policies and to just vote for who you and/ or your family have always voted for. That’s denying yourself an educated well thought out vote.

tuvamoodyson · 04/07/2024 13:37

sevsal · 04/07/2024 12:50

@RubySloth

No, it's the amount of abuse you get for saying you are voting for someone. You see it on MN the last week, the pile ons. It's disgusting.

OP said nothing about abuse.

OP specifically said she would be embarrassed to admit it to friends/family.

Nothing to do with online abuse.

…maybe those are the people she gets abuse from.

Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 13:37

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:35

This will not change under Labour.
Honestly the delusion.

The NHS worked well under the last Labour government. I have first hand experience and I’ve lived through several governments.

To be a secret Tory voter and feel embarrassed about it?
FTPM1980 · 04/07/2024 13:38

YABU
I have always been open to being persuaded and historically have not always disliked all tory mps or policies. I don't dislike Sunak particularly.

I have also always said I will vote for the best candidate locally...and that's never been a tory since I reached voting age so its never come up. But candidates being equal I will vote on policy and tactically.

But Sunak aside this is the worst and most self serving dishonest and dishonest Tory government in history. Their policies and politics are mostly awful. They have decimated education and healthcare.

I struggle to understand how anyone would politically align with them tbh.

I am also a gender critical feminist but all parties are equally bad on that...Labour are at least most sensible and coming round more than greens or LDs

TheCoolOliveBalonz · 04/07/2024 13:38

I wouldn't advocate telling people you voted Tory. You just open yourself up to vile abuse. I've distanced myself from many friends due to their political intolerance. It makes me extremely wary of the left.

tuvamoodyson · 04/07/2024 13:38

Theweepywillow · 04/07/2024 13:19

Tell me you’ve no grasp of current affairs without telling me you’ve no grasp of current affairs,

ler me spell it out. Putin. Brexit.covid. Want me to go on?

‘Want me to on?’ No….

Inyournewdress · 04/07/2024 13:38

I actually know some life long Labour voters who are voting Tory today because they are in safe Labour seat (so no risk of actually electing a Tory) and they want to send a message that they want an effective opposition not a washout.

I’m not sure that is an effective way to use their vote but fair enough.

I’m also in a safe Labour seat and they suggested I do the same but I’m not going to. To be honest I’m not voting at all, that’s the really taboo thing OP!

tiktokontheclock · 04/07/2024 13:38

Iaminthefly · 04/07/2024 12:46

Well you should be embaressed.

Hmm no, that spelling js so awful that you should.

She can vote for who she wants.

Theweepywillow · 04/07/2024 13:38

I used to lurk on here and it’s every election. Labour supporters attacking posters for not voting Labour. Trying to bully people.

Cattery · 04/07/2024 13:38

So nothing learned from the last 14 years? Just happy for the majority of the country to carry on being shafted?

LostTheMarble · 04/07/2024 13:39

ginasevern · 04/07/2024 13:30

We won't have any fucking spaces to worry about if the Tories get anothet 5 years. The country will be decimated beyond recognition and you'll still have to fight for whatever scraps are left with a transwoman because the Tories have done zip, nada, nothing, zero about that either - after 14 years exclusively under their watch. What part of of that don't you understand?

Sunak has kept us out of recession, yes by extreme measures and it has harmed people who couldn’t afford it. Would Labour have managed the same after Brexit? Considering which government was in power last time we hit a huge recession? People like you go on and on about 14 years of awfulness, but always leave out those little details. Like empty coffers when they came into power, the British public pushing through Brexit when it was made clear it would tank the economy, Covid which was quite frankly unprecedented…

What will you be saying in 5 years when Labour have barely changed anything and are blaming it on 14 years of Conservative government? Will you realise then that this is nothing to do with what party is in power and all simply a game of powerful men who see the general public as the little people begging for scraps?

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:39

The country is going to be ruined under Labour if they get in.

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