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Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

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Refractory · 04/07/2024 01:12

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

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Flopsy145 · 05/07/2024 22:13

Although I followed the rules and took the necessary precautions, I was pregnant during lockdown and the scaremongering made an anxious first time mum way worse. Since then I have become hugely skeptical of the government, the virus, the vaccine, all of it. So if it happened again I would not take what the government say at face value. I have not got the jab since my first two and regret getting even them, it was drilled into us not to do it while pregnant or breastfeeding and then literally overnight they changed that guidance, but I still didn't do it while breastfeeding. I've been asked to have it during my current pregnancy and it was a hard no.

Pinkwithwhite · 05/07/2024 22:28

I wish we had a 2 weeks lockdown every year!
Everything closes, not allowed to meet people, no going anywhere.
I understand for a lot of people it was so hard especially with loved ones being vulnerable.

But I have never felt so cool, calm and collected, In our little family bubble. I was 100% focused on my husband and children and them with me.

Now life is crazy busy and I'm back on my anxiety meds, stressed and overwhelmed with everything.

tootootdriver · 05/07/2024 22:32

Flopsy145 · 05/07/2024 22:13

Although I followed the rules and took the necessary precautions, I was pregnant during lockdown and the scaremongering made an anxious first time mum way worse. Since then I have become hugely skeptical of the government, the virus, the vaccine, all of it. So if it happened again I would not take what the government say at face value. I have not got the jab since my first two and regret getting even them, it was drilled into us not to do it while pregnant or breastfeeding and then literally overnight they changed that guidance, but I still didn't do it while breastfeeding. I've been asked to have it during my current pregnancy and it was a hard no.

I'm currently pregnant and they said it's not being offered anymore. Perhaps it's dependant on area. I wouldn't want it either!

Gogogo12345 · 05/07/2024 22:34

MarvellousMonsters · 05/07/2024 18:41

I work in a clinical capacity in an NHS hospital, so I saw first hand the results of those who were not behaving responsibly. Those who behaved responsibly were not 'arch lockdowners' they were decent humans who put the health and welfare of themselves, their families and the population as a whole above their own personal short-term desires. Was it hard? Yes. Was it necessary? Yes, very, and should've been implemented weeks earlier than it actually was.

So are you considering the people who HAD to go out to work irresponsible then as they weren't locked indoors?

Viruses are not going to just infect those who are " breaking the rules" A. Virus doesn't know if you are mixing with people through necessity or pleasure

BathingOnPeriod · 05/07/2024 22:37

Pinkwithwhite · 05/07/2024 22:28

I wish we had a 2 weeks lockdown every year!
Everything closes, not allowed to meet people, no going anywhere.
I understand for a lot of people it was so hard especially with loved ones being vulnerable.

But I have never felt so cool, calm and collected, In our little family bubble. I was 100% focused on my husband and children and them with me.

Now life is crazy busy and I'm back on my anxiety meds, stressed and overwhelmed with everything.

I can see the appeal in a "lockdown" where everything closes and you don't travel far.

But not being allowed to meet people - no. That aspect was hell for me, and others who live alone (and many who don't!)

Imagine instead of being in your little family bubble, you'd been separated from your DH and DC and forced to live in isolation for the duration. That is what I went through, what many went through. Separated from all loved ones, not even allowed to seek comfort from friends, not allowed near another human.

XenoBitch · 05/07/2024 22:38

I stuck to the rules during the first lockdown, but the rest... no, I did not.
I live alone and already have MH issues. The isolation nearly killed me.

Tattletwat · 05/07/2024 22:39

MarvellousMonsters · 05/07/2024 18:41

I work in a clinical capacity in an NHS hospital, so I saw first hand the results of those who were not behaving responsibly. Those who behaved responsibly were not 'arch lockdowners' they were decent humans who put the health and welfare of themselves, their families and the population as a whole above their own personal short-term desires. Was it hard? Yes. Was it necessary? Yes, very, and should've been implemented weeks earlier than it actually was.

Guess what a lot of those flouting there rules around me were NHS workers in fact it was them more than others, so save your sanctimonious attitude.

XenoBitch · 05/07/2024 22:40

Pinkwithwhite · 05/07/2024 22:28

I wish we had a 2 weeks lockdown every year!
Everything closes, not allowed to meet people, no going anywhere.
I understand for a lot of people it was so hard especially with loved ones being vulnerable.

But I have never felt so cool, calm and collected, In our little family bubble. I was 100% focused on my husband and children and them with me.

Now life is crazy busy and I'm back on my anxiety meds, stressed and overwhelmed with everything.

You can choose to lock yourself down any time you like.

It is a bit shite to insist everyone else does too.

tootootdriver · 05/07/2024 22:49

Pinkwithwhite · 05/07/2024 22:28

I wish we had a 2 weeks lockdown every year!
Everything closes, not allowed to meet people, no going anywhere.
I understand for a lot of people it was so hard especially with loved ones being vulnerable.

But I have never felt so cool, calm and collected, In our little family bubble. I was 100% focused on my husband and children and them with me.

Now life is crazy busy and I'm back on my anxiety meds, stressed and overwhelmed with everything.

All well and good if you have a cosy little family bubble. What about the vulnerable and older people who would be completely isolated for 2 weeks?

DogBedPillow · 05/07/2024 22:54

I regret complying with quite a few things, OP. I don't like making people feeling uncomfortable, so did things like wear useless cloth masks when perfectly healthy and no risk to anyone. But mostly, I wish I'd been braver about getting the kids down the park, ripping off the stupid preventative tape and letting them live their lives. And I really wish I'd insisted on seeing my Nan.

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:00

Gogogo12345 · 05/07/2024 22:34

So are you considering the people who HAD to go out to work irresponsible then as they weren't locked indoors?

Viruses are not going to just infect those who are " breaking the rules" A. Virus doesn't know if you are mixing with people through necessity or pleasure

Exactly its ridiculous. So if you were admitted to hospital you must have broken the rules. 🙄

noregretsforme · 05/07/2024 23:04

Whilst I wasn't an "arch-lockdowner", I don't regret following the rules, the slightest. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's like saying, when the EuroMillions winning number combination has been announced, that those were the numbers I would have picked.

When you know the outcome, it's totally irrelevant to know what you wish would have happened.

To be cautious and care about others made sense then. Without knowing what we know now.

I don't regret it

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:04

What has housing got to do with lockdowns

Lol where do you think most people locked down

Hihellogoodbye · 05/07/2024 23:04

AntiHop · 04/07/2024 01:22

No I don't regret it. I followed the rules to the letter.

And that’s why the country is in the situation that it is because of gullible people like you
now you can see that masks did nothing to protect anyone/ lockdowns did more damage than good for all / the vaccines caused health problems hence both Pfizer and AstraZeneca removed theirs from the market but well done for following the rules to the letter. We'll have a statute put up for you and everyone else like you that still believes that was the right thing to do
bloody hell

exaltedwombat · 05/07/2024 23:05

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 20:58

Ever heard the phrase same storm but different boats? For some the laptop class mucking in meant sunbathing and baking banana bread
For others it meant running around delivering stuff to the former. And the thanks they got? Back to the denigration of social housing tenants (where the fuck do people think those doing a lot of essential key worker jobs live) as soon as restrictions were over. After swearing blind that yeah we are all in this together. All in this together my arse. The fact that we went back to the default setting and so quickly proved that it was really about protecting our "betters"

People were moaned at like fuck on here for not having a spare bedroom or second bathroom to self isolate in. Probably by the same cohort who cheered on the bedroom tax. Has peoples faux concern morphed into any new campaigns to end the bedroom tax Of course it fucking hasnt!!!!!

Quite an agenda you’re pushing there!

Tryonemoretime · 05/07/2024 23:05

Those who say that 'Lockdown had a terrible effect on the mental health of children,' are right. It did. But without Lockdown, those same children may have been hospitalised with Covid or been orphaned as Covid spread through the population at an even faster rate than it did - and that would have had an even worse effect on their mental health. Covid was an extreme event which needed extreme measures. I'm glad we locked down because the alternative would have had far worse results.

JLou08 · 05/07/2024 23:07

I didn't follow all the rules but I did reduce contact with a vulnerable family member. They passed away towards the end of lockdown, having spent the last year of their life isolated. I regret not spending more time with them. They did actually catch covid when in hospital and recovered from that.
I have seen the impact lockdown had a people's mental health, especially young people. I have seen research that concluded no lives were saved from lockdowns. I think it was a big mistake for the country.

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:07

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:04

What has housing got to do with lockdowns

Lol where do you think most people locked down

I notice you ignored me asking how you thought people would magically out of social housing after the pandemic?

Of course people were in their houses during lockdowns, I still don’t understand your point. What difference does it make if it was private housing or social housing?

Grumblegore · 05/07/2024 23:09

tootootdriver · 05/07/2024 22:49

All well and good if you have a cosy little family bubble. What about the vulnerable and older people who would be completely isolated for 2 weeks?

Or single people!

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:13

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:07

I notice you ignored me asking how you thought people would magically out of social housing after the pandemic?

Of course people were in their houses during lockdowns, I still don’t understand your point. What difference does it make if it was private housing or social housing?

Where the fuck did i say i wanted people magicked out of social housing. SHOW ME. i want people to stop denigrating those that live in social housing, Some of whom brought them their shit during said lockdowns, I mentioned the bedroom tax because people on here got moaned at for not having an extra room to self isolate in during the lockdowns, Well a few more people might have done if they hadnt had to move due to the bedroom tax. No doubt voted in by some of the people doing the moaning. Those same people dont want to put their money where their mouths are though.

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:14

Grumblegore · 05/07/2024 23:09

Or single people!

Single people should have been allowed to bubble from day one

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:17

@JenniferBooth The irony is you are the only person banging on about social housing when it has nothing to do with the thread. I and others have only mentioned social housing in response to you.
You are the one that is actually denigrating it. A home is a home whether it’s social or private.

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:21

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:17

@JenniferBooth The irony is you are the only person banging on about social housing when it has nothing to do with the thread. I and others have only mentioned social housing in response to you.
You are the one that is actually denigrating it. A home is a home whether it’s social or private.

No im not Im pointing out that society went back to the default setting after Covid. I pointed out that that happened with disabled people a bit further back too. After being deemed vulnerable they are now back to trying to cut their benefits.

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:26

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:07

I notice you ignored me asking how you thought people would magically out of social housing after the pandemic?

Of course people were in their houses during lockdowns, I still don’t understand your point. What difference does it make if it was private housing or social housing?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-52372535

Linda Lambert

Coronavirus: Shielding tenants 'bullied' over gas safety checks

They have been threatened with court action and eviction if they refuse entry to a gas engineer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-52372535

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 23:31

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 23:21

No im not Im pointing out that society went back to the default setting after Covid. I pointed out that that happened with disabled people a bit further back too. After being deemed vulnerable they are now back to trying to cut their benefits.

What default setting have we returned to regarding social housing? Can you explain a bit more?

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