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Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

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Refractory · 04/07/2024 01:12

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

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Gogogo12345 · 05/07/2024 13:14

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/07/2024 13:02

@BeethovenNinth and @Gogogo12345 - this is from NHS Inform:

”The coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines help to build up your immunity to the virus, so your body will fight it off more easily if it affects you.”

Yeah helps Certainly not to the level of herd immunity though. And the " immunity" doesn't start until a couple of weeks after jab and wears off within a few months as well as not necessarily protecting against different variants

Incidently I worked through our all the lockdown delivering food to those hiding indoors. And had a cancer diagnosis and treatment during the time of covid restrictions. Never got covid Had first 2 jabs so I could travel

BeethovenNinth · 05/07/2024 13:29

Well stdg whether that is the case or not is irrelevant to the point made that somehow the vaccinated stuck by rules and took one for the unvaccinated

it seems pretty clear that the Covid vaccines do fuck all on the transmission front

time will tell on the other fronts

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 13:37

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 12:24

I don't tend to wish ill of people, but for everything lockdown supporters pushed for, they deserve everything they get. Law or not, what was done to the nation was criminal and should never be repeated.

What do you mean by ‘they deserve everything they get?’
Most people I know (including myself) who supported lockdowns have more or less forgotten about covid now (until threads like this come up), have (mainly) not been effected mentally because we were resilient enough to cope with the pandemic and are also living without a shred of bitterness towards it. So, yes, I guess we have got what we deserved.

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 13:40

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 13:37

What do you mean by ‘they deserve everything they get?’
Most people I know (including myself) who supported lockdowns have more or less forgotten about covid now (until threads like this come up), have (mainly) not been effected mentally because we were resilient enough to cope with the pandemic and are also living without a shred of bitterness towards it. So, yes, I guess we have got what we deserved.

I mean exactly what I say. The people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

Emmanuelll · 05/07/2024 13:41

The people who couldn't mentally cope with the pandemic and quarantines had to invent a narrative about it that the lockdowns were unnecessary. In real life, the people I know who were like this are incredibly controlling people. They had a severe reaction to the loss of control.

Snausage · 05/07/2024 13:42

NotTerfNorCis · 05/07/2024 12:38

What do you think would have happened to children, families and the economy if the rates of death, serious illness and long Covid had been many times higher owing to no lockdown before vaccination was possible?

Countries where people walking in the countryside with their takeaway coffees had higher death rates than countries that didn't. Lockdowns have been proven to have caused more harm than good.

In the meantime, we have a generation of young children with unheard levels of speech and language and behavioural problems, a generation of teenagers with unheard of levels of mental health problems and an economy and health service that needs razing to the ground and rebuilding because there's no one with the will or competence to fix what was so comprehensively broken.

Snausage · 05/07/2024 13:47

We literally have no idea how many people died "of" covid. People died of cancer or the complications of dementia old age or being knocked down by cars and were counted as covid deaths because of a positive PCR test, the validity of which has been debunked time and again. I mean, GPs were writing death certificates for elderly people with covid as the cause, having never even met the patient.

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 13:48

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 13:40

I mean exactly what I say. The people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

No one pushed for anything.
The government made decisions with the information they had to hand, that will have saved lives.
We all lived through the same pandemic. EVERYONE was effected one way or another.
In my mind we should just be grateful we aren’t one of the ones who died from it, forget about it and live for now. Dwelling on it is just keeping people mentally stuck in 2020 and wasting more of their lives (if they viewed lockdowns as a waste of time).
I don’t think the government did anything wrong. I think anyone in charge would have done the same things. Lots of countries did the same thing.

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 13:50

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 13:48

No one pushed for anything.
The government made decisions with the information they had to hand, that will have saved lives.
We all lived through the same pandemic. EVERYONE was effected one way or another.
In my mind we should just be grateful we aren’t one of the ones who died from it, forget about it and live for now. Dwelling on it is just keeping people mentally stuck in 2020 and wasting more of their lives (if they viewed lockdowns as a waste of time).
I don’t think the government did anything wrong. I think anyone in charge would have done the same things. Lots of countries did the same thing.

I'll say it again; the people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

rainfordays · 05/07/2024 13:57

I followed instructions and was pro-lockdown. Still would be, in the same scenario. Although to be fair, I do not feel like I have been negatively affected by lockdowns, and cannot understand why some people are still saying they are so impacted by it. How does it impact you? Why can't you just carry on with life? Why was it such a huge deal to follow the rules for a few months? Lockdowns have been how civilisations have dealt with pandemics for millenia, it's a sensible response to minimise fatalities and the spread of disease in the face of a threat.

The thing I do wish was different is that we as a society could have some ways to hold our law-breaking politicians accountable for the lies and breaking of their own rules, because that was an absolute joke.

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 14:02

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 13:50

I'll say it again; the people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

You are a broken record without a reasoned argument, but most anti-lockdown people are stuck on a loop in 2020 so it’s to be expected.

CheeseDreamsTonight · 05/07/2024 14:10

I think you forget what lockdown was for. If we had an unlimited NHS with unlimited beds and staff they could have dealt with it. It was mostly to ensure those who needed the care got it, those who were vulnerable didn't catch it, and to stop complete overwhelm of the system. Most people complying was ok, there was wiggle room as it still got the same result.

Summertimeinschool · 05/07/2024 14:21

I have no personal regrets about how I followed rules, but a lot of opinions on how the government could have done things differently.

Emmanuelll · 05/07/2024 14:31

You are a broken record without a reasoned argument, but most anti-lockdown people are stuck on a loop in 2020 so it’s to be expected.

Quite, everything is about them. Luckily most people are not that self centred.

PregnantWithHorrors · 05/07/2024 14:34

rainfordays · 05/07/2024 13:57

I followed instructions and was pro-lockdown. Still would be, in the same scenario. Although to be fair, I do not feel like I have been negatively affected by lockdowns, and cannot understand why some people are still saying they are so impacted by it. How does it impact you? Why can't you just carry on with life? Why was it such a huge deal to follow the rules for a few months? Lockdowns have been how civilisations have dealt with pandemics for millenia, it's a sensible response to minimise fatalities and the spread of disease in the face of a threat.

The thing I do wish was different is that we as a society could have some ways to hold our law-breaking politicians accountable for the lies and breaking of their own rules, because that was an absolute joke.

Lockdowns as we had in 2020-1 are absolutely not how civilisations have dealt with pandemics for millennia. They were in fact brand new. They incorporated some elements that are ancient, but that is not the same thing.

Verv · 05/07/2024 14:35

Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 03:26

'Lockdowners'??

This was a worldwide pandemic of a virus that nobody had any immunity to. Therefore, the result of having no quarantines would have been that the NHS folded and people walked out of their jobs, having to choose who would die and there would have been abject chaos.

It is unbelievable that there are still people with your mentality OP. You're upset?!

This.

I did as I was instructed. It was highly dull but I've had 4 years to get over it and move on.
Would advise the OP to try doing the same.

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 14:42

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 14:02

You are a broken record without a reasoned argument, but most anti-lockdown people are stuck on a loop in 2020 so it’s to be expected.

I am broken, yes. A lot of people are in many different ways.

And I'll say it again; the people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 14:47

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 14:42

I am broken, yes. A lot of people are in many different ways.

And I'll say it again; the people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

🙄 Yes, we get it. We are very sorry and will never do it again. Promise.

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 14:49

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 05/07/2024 14:47

🙄 Yes, we get it. We are very sorry and will never do it again. Promise.

You're right, it won't, but I'm sure you want it to. Have a nice day.

Trixiefirecracker · 05/07/2024 15:10

I think the problem is none of us have any resilience anymore.

VideoNastie · 05/07/2024 15:13

My colleague was a Nurse in Sierra Leone and nursed people through a civil war but it was Covid that made her leave nursing after so long because it was so traumatising.

Runnerinthenight · 05/07/2024 15:14

We did as we were told and I personally have absolutely no regrets. It should have been implemented sooner though.

Seems odd you would start a post like this now 4 years later if it upset you so much as the time!!

JenniferBooth · 05/07/2024 15:19

The PP who said lockdowns were only 6 weeks long. The gaslighting and minimisation here will make damn sure people wont do another one. People tend not to like having their sacrifices dismissed and minimised.

NotTerfNorCis · 05/07/2024 15:25

Lockdowns have been proven to have caused more harm than good.

How?

I suspect if it had gone the other way and we hadn't locked down, there would be threads now blaming the anti-lockdowners for deaths of loved ones, long Covid, and the economic crash caused by lots of people becoming seriously ill at once.

Verv · 05/07/2024 15:26

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 13:50

I'll say it again; the people negatively affected by all you supported will never forget what you allowed, dare I say pushed for, to happen to them.

Most people were negatively affected but they've managed to put their violins away.

You either buckle up get on with life post covid, or you sit about and wallow, but if you choose to sit about and wallow, you don't get to blame other people for unprecedented events that made the whole fucking world suffer.

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