Should a man that didn't want the baby pay maintenance

[dillydallybub]

So as the title says, should a man that didn't want a baby pay maintenance?
Please give me your thoughts and opinions

Absolutely 100% he should not.

@Caterpillarshoes "Absolutely 100% he should not."

Could you say some more about this?

They are not 100% effective

You stick your dick in, thems the rules

What if the woman is lying about contraception? Even if he still wears a condom (belt and braces to add to the contracception, and to avoid an sti), it breaks, the woman can get pregnant.
He made every effort to avoid it. Why should he pay if she decides to keep it?

Well taxpayers will be contibuting whether 2 parent or one

So you are 50% responsible for not being careful?

Why take the chance of getting an sti by having uncondomed sex? Either person
It's all so fucked. Society

@Sondheimisademigod Because otherwise he is coercing a woman into having a termination. As I keep saying it's not fair for men, but that's how nature works.

Because that's the risk you take when you handball control of your fertility to someone else. She's not only responsible for herself, she's also responsible for you? No.

Absolutely no contraception is 100% effective. If men didn’t want a baby then they should abstain from sex.

No contraception is 100% effective. If you don't want a child use protection yourself (even with evidence that your partner is using contraception), have a vasectomy or abstain. Not rocket science.

@BibbleandSqwauk

No blind drunk man I know can get into a state to make penetrative sex possible. Can we not do that thing where we twist a discussion til it screams to try and shoehorn in some basically impossible or infinitesimally unlikely scenario which is unrelated to the OP.
Of course they can be drunk to the point of not being able to give consent and still hold an erection

And my point is to all the people saying 100% it's his responsibility no matter what. And that men should just abstain or have a vasectomy

My question still stands. Why can't you just answer it?

Because he is aware that that is the situation. It's not a shock that women get this one singular advantage in the area of childrearing and its not helpful to the discussion to pretend that it ought to be somehow the same. It literally can't be. It's not about what is fair for the parents - if it was the situation for the 98% of female single parents would be much much better but what is best for the child who had no say in its' creation and is entitled to support from both parents. Funny how men can get so exercised about this issue but have no interest at all in looking at the CMS situation / enforcement. Any parent of a son should be telling them to wear a condom no matter what AND be prepared for an accidental pregnancy.

I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question. What if a woman sexually assaulted a man when he was too drunk to consent?

Men can be very drunk and still hold an erection.

As many other posters have said, please take this seriously and contact the police. Of course he should pay.

I can't read the thread because I'm not signed up to twitter/x but she wrote an excellent book called Ejaculate Responsibly.

Why are so many men having sex without a condom? Why take a chance that you may get someone pregnant with a child you (or they) don’t want? It works both ways.

Yes. Sex is not compulsory. And it's hardly breaking news that sometimes things you really don't want to happen, happen anyway.

Yes. Given that most men are fertile all the time it's ridiculous that they don't take more responsibility!

There are plenty of options for sex that don't end in ejaculation in a vagina. Those are options too.

The law is pretty clear on this.

Of course he should if he wasn’t careful.

But where contraception was used, and if he makes his feelings clear when termination is still possible but the woman chooses not to terminate, I do think it’s murkier.

I thought men could get a pill now as contraception. They can also wear a condom, and pull out before he shoots off.

If he does all this, the chances of him getting someone pregnant are virtually nil.

If he doesn’t do the above, and gets someone pregnant, and she has the baby, then it is tough, he has to pay up for the child’s keep.

Is this directed at women or men? Would you tell a woman who doesn't want a baby to abstain from sex?

Accidents happen. Contraception fails. If a woman doesn't want a baby she can abort. A man doesn't have that option.

morally yes…however if I could afford to do it without him then absolutely I would so i could cut him out my life