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Help with childcare free hours

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imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 13:31

I'm trying to work out what I'm entitled to. My son is 18 months. My husband earns over 100k per year and I'm a sahm so I don't think we qualify for anything at the moment. Pretty sure that's right.

But..

Am I right in thinking ALL children from three years still receive 15 hours per week regardless of salary or employment status? I'm not sure if this has changed too.

Thanks!

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Motomum23 · 01/07/2024 13:33

Yes you arw right. All 3 year old qualify for 15 hours. X

MidnightPatrol · 01/07/2024 13:35

Correct.

Superscientist · 01/07/2024 13:35

15h is universal, 30h comes with conditions one being income under £100k

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 13:36

Yes that’s correct.

I believe that this is being expanded to 2 year olds then to 9 month olds over the next year or so, so you may qualify before 3. Not sure of exact details.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 01/07/2024 13:37

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 13:36

Yes that’s correct.

I believe that this is being expanded to 2 year olds then to 9 month olds over the next year or so, so you may qualify before 3. Not sure of exact details.

This is means tested. It's only the 15hrs at 3yo the OP would be eligible for.

PuttingDownRoots · 01/07/2024 13:38

Bear in mind, its 100k of taxable income... so if his pension contributions bring him under 100k you might qualify earlier.

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 17:00

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 01/07/2024 13:37

This is means tested. It's only the 15hrs at 3yo the OP would be eligible for.

From September 2024, 15 hours of government funded childcare will be extended to all children from the age of 9 months.
From September 2025, working parents of children under the age of five will be entitled to 30 hours of government funded childcare a week

that’s from the government website.

Looneytune253 · 01/07/2024 17:03

The responses on here are correct EXCEPT OP has said she's a SAHM so wouldn't be entitled to any extra for this reason too. The new schemes and the existing 30h for 3yo is for both working parents. Only the 15 hours from 3yo she will be able to use

imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 18:40

Thanks everyone. I thought this was the case and then got a bit mixed up with all the new funding changes.

We have looked at pensions but it still brings it over. 15 hours from three is enough for us anyway so that's fine.

Thanks x

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FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 01/07/2024 20:52

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 17:00

From September 2024, 15 hours of government funded childcare will be extended to all children from the age of 9 months.
From September 2025, working parents of children under the age of five will be entitled to 30 hours of government funded childcare a week

that’s from the government website.

Government website also says this, about the funded hours for >9 months:

"If you or your partner have an expected adjusted net income over £100,000 in the current tax year, you will not be eligible."

Littlefish · 01/07/2024 21:09

The 15 hours universal funding kicks in from the term after 3rd birthday, not from the 3rd birthday itself.

EsmeSusanOgg · 01/07/2024 21:13

Yes.

How much over £100k? The £100k is net adjusted income, so additional pension contributions and gift aid can bring you below £100k if you are just over.

imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 21:22

About £135,000

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WednesdayWeWearPink · 01/07/2024 21:25

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 17:00

From September 2024, 15 hours of government funded childcare will be extended to all children from the age of 9 months.
From September 2025, working parents of children under the age of five will be entitled to 30 hours of government funded childcare a week

that’s from the government website.

The government website is clear that it only applies to working parents. Working parents has a specific definition and OP would not fall within it.

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 21:25

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 01/07/2024 20:52

Government website also says this, about the funded hours for >9 months:

"If you or your partner have an expected adjusted net income over £100,000 in the current tax year, you will not be eligible."

how confusing and contradictory!!

not surprised to be fair. I asked about it at a nursery recently and she said they were literally receiving the info about the funded hours for 2 year olds the month before it was rolled out. Probably means they haven’t actually decided who is eligible yet.

Takeoutyourhen · 01/07/2024 21:36

Will this change if the government changes? It generally kicks in the term after your child turns whatever age.

Dogsandbabies · 01/07/2024 21:40

He could make extra contributions. My partner and I both earn around 135k and we both make enough pension contributions to bring us just under 100k. We don't just get the 30 hrs we also get the tax free childcare element. So it makes absolute sense to do it.

Dogsandbabies · 01/07/2024 21:41

Sorry I just saw you are a SAHM so the 30 hrs are out either way.

Bearbookagainandagain · 01/07/2024 21:54

modgepodge · 01/07/2024 21:25

how confusing and contradictory!!

not surprised to be fair. I asked about it at a nursery recently and she said they were literally receiving the info about the funded hours for 2 year olds the month before it was rolled out. Probably means they haven’t actually decided who is eligible yet.

They have decided who is eligible or not, the expansion only applies to working parents.
I don't know which gov website you quoted but the wording is incorrect.

Edit to say, it was the funding that wasn't communicated until the month before roll-out, and this comes from the council according to our nursery.

imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 22:09

Dogsandbabies · 01/07/2024 21:40

He could make extra contributions. My partner and I both earn around 135k and we both make enough pension contributions to bring us just under 100k. We don't just get the 30 hrs we also get the tax free childcare element. So it makes absolute sense to do it.

The thing is is that we're not really looking for any childcare until my son is 3 and would probably only use 15 hours or less. Would there be any other benefits?

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imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 22:10

Apart from the benefit of paying it into a pension of course!

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imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 22:12

Plus we wouldn't benefit on the childcare front regardless as I don't work

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5297ducks · 01/07/2024 22:16

I would get looking to see if there are any local preschools that will take the 15 funded hours only. Most small preschools near me have closed as they can't carry on at the government funded rates. Most private nurseries will want you to sign up to more than the 15 hours although some might let you just pay a substantial 'contribution' on top.

imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 22:18

Thanks, he will be going to a school nursery

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imcountingtothree123 · 01/07/2024 22:19

My daughter just went for two days until joining the school

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