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AIBU?

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to not lie to the school?

75 replies

NorthernGirlie · 30/06/2024 19:19

We're taking ds out of school for a week at the end of term because we've booked a holiday - it was almost £900 cheaper to go then than when he broke up from school

I want to tell them why we're taking him out, DH wants to phone in sick for him.

We're both teachers but our holidays are different to ds' so we're able to take advantage of the price drop

Aibu, or is dh?

OP posts:
MultiplaLight · 30/06/2024 19:21

They'll fine you regardless especially if you have no medical evidence of illness.
I wouldn't lie unless you think you'll get away with it and have a mate who can sort a Dr's letter.

NoTouch · 30/06/2024 19:22

How can you teach your child lying is wrong if you ask him to do it for you for minor financial gain.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 30/06/2024 19:23

MultiplaLight · 30/06/2024 19:21

They'll fine you regardless especially if you have no medical evidence of illness.
I wouldn't lie unless you think you'll get away with it and have a mate who can sort a Dr's letter.

That is not always the case and it varies from LA to LA.

QueenOfWeeds · 30/06/2024 19:23

How old is he? If primary, and you lie, you won’t necessarily be able to get his books/PE kit/whatever. If you told us in advance, we would get everything ready so it wasn’t festering over the summer holiday. Secondary school/upper primary you could probably rely on him remembering. I’d still just be upfront though. “We have different holiday dates so will be taking DS early.”

Tagyoureit · 30/06/2024 19:24

Phone in sick, not worth the agg.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 30/06/2024 19:24

Just tell the truth. Worst case they fine you, but you still save lots of money. 99% of the time we know anyway because... kids.Grin

Arlanymor · 30/06/2024 19:24

What is the school’s policy on this type of thing and how is your relationship with them?

AngryLikeHades · 30/06/2024 19:25

How much does it cost per child if you are fined?

Fairyliz · 30/06/2024 19:26

If he’s Primary he will definitely tell friends/teacher.
I used to laugh at the lies parents told when they phoned the office; did they really believe we were that stupid to believe them?

MikeWozniaksMohawk · 30/06/2024 19:26

Just tell them and prepare yourselves for the fine just in case

OldChinaJug · 30/06/2024 19:26

Well, you're both teachers so you know the score.

I'm a teacher and I allowed my ex to take our daughter out for a week at the end of term in primary for cost reasons. I just told the school that's what was happening. You know it won't be authorised. You also know that that means nothing for you as parents.

He did it a few times and was never fined.

hby9628 · 30/06/2024 19:27

I always just tell the truth. I figure that I might jinx us if I call in sick and one of us gets sick. We've never had any fines etc. we don't do it often.

mycatsanutter · 30/06/2024 19:28

We went to Turkey last week , I left a message on the answer phone telling the truth . We got an e mail saying the holiday was not authorised but to have a lovely time , ds is in year 6 . We won't take him out when he goes to senior school .

Witchcraftandhokum · 30/06/2024 19:30

You're both teachers and you want to take your child out during term time and want your child to lie about it? Good grief!

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 30/06/2024 19:30

Tagyoureit · 30/06/2024 19:24

Phone in sick, not worth the agg.

There would be more agg with the lie. First making sure the kid doesn't know anything, or if he does he remembers not to say anything /is able to lie, either trying to get all his stuff early or leaving it at school for the whole summer hols, there is no illness that lasts exactly 5 days, so you'd have to keep ringing in with updates , or the school would ring you, knowing that the school suspects, if the LA is strict enough to fine for a week's holiday, odds are the school would demand a doctor's note or something ,especially for a week.

It's a lot easier to tell the truth , especially since not all LA's fine for 10 sessions. Even if they do, take the fine on the chin and you still save hundreds.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:30

lying is wrong... you are both teachers? you should know this. i am sure the school would much rather you told the truth than lie.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 30/06/2024 19:32

Fairyliz · 30/06/2024 19:26

If he’s Primary he will definitely tell friends/teacher.
I used to laugh at the lies parents told when they phoned the office; did they really believe we were that stupid to believe them?

Kid: miss ,miss ,miss I'm going on holiday!

Me: aww that's lovely, where are you going?

Kid (very panicked face) : uhmm.. ermm.. mmm.. I can't tell you! It's a secret.

Me: yeah, I don't think it's the location that is the secret.Have a great time anyway!

Grin
CraftyGoblin · 30/06/2024 19:32

I couldn't lie to somewhere like school about a medical problem. I feel it's immoral. Also looks bad if you get found out. Ex does it when he can't be bothered is for whatever reason struggling to take them into school (co parenting -_-). When the school ask me if they're feeling better I tell them straight that they weren't ill. I have done for the last 10 years. I don't want to come across as that parent whose children are always ill like l'm an attention seeker or something. Probably because I am visibly disabled. I know that's quite a specific-to-me scenario but I would feel very uneasy about saying they were ill if they're not. Plus I don't want anything untruthful on official records about my kids.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 30/06/2024 19:33

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:30

lying is wrong... you are both teachers? you should know this. i am sure the school would much rather you told the truth than lie.

This, its bad enough to lie but even worse that your husband is a teacher, I hope he doesnt teach in my childrens school with those morals

Tagyoureit · 30/06/2024 19:39

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 30/06/2024 19:30

There would be more agg with the lie. First making sure the kid doesn't know anything, or if he does he remembers not to say anything /is able to lie, either trying to get all his stuff early or leaving it at school for the whole summer hols, there is no illness that lasts exactly 5 days, so you'd have to keep ringing in with updates , or the school would ring you, knowing that the school suspects, if the LA is strict enough to fine for a week's holiday, odds are the school would demand a doctor's note or something ,especially for a week.

It's a lot easier to tell the truth , especially since not all LA's fine for 10 sessions. Even if they do, take the fine on the chin and you still save hundreds.

Then how thick are your kids?

If you leave a week earlier than school breaks up in july, are they really going in to school in September saying "Miss, we went on holiday a week earlier than we should and here is all the proof you need to fine my parents!"

So actually, how thick are you to keep telling them they're skiving off and not to say anything? Kids don't know this crap, you do!

We use an app so no phoning up

Moveoverdarlin · 30/06/2024 19:41

If you’re breaking the rules, just own it. Don’t lie. I find it worrying that as teachers you don’t realise how fucking obvious it is to the school that you’re lying. The school may phone back at some point and get a foreign dialling tone. Don’t you think it’s tempting fate saying your child is ill? I could never do that. For a child to take a whole week off school in the summer they would have to be quite poorly, what are you going to say is wrong? A bug? Chicken pox? Scarlett Fever? Tonsillitis?

Cant believe you’re teachers FFS. How devious.

paasll · 30/06/2024 19:42

I’d phone on the first day and say ds has covid.

you’d be naive to tell the truth imo

Greatmate · 30/06/2024 19:47

Lie. It's the end of term so it's not like DC wIll go back and tell them. They will only be watching shit films or playing end of term games. Don't tell DC your going until the morning your leaving. Also, leave your phone home otherwise it will ring with an abroad dialing tone.

We can't afford an abroad holiday. If we could it would have to be in term time.

BakewellGin1 · 30/06/2024 19:47

Personally I have just told the truth.

We have taken DS out of school two Fridays this academic year as we have had caravan breaks which were literally half the price then during holiday weeks.

I'm taking DS out of school on 21st rather then 24th due to a holiday. I checked one DS school dates and wrongly presumed they would both be the same. So one is missing 2 days.

Ioverslept · 30/06/2024 19:49

My mum always told me never to lie by feigning illness. The main problem is that it wouldn't just be you lying, in this case you would have to make your child complicit in the lie and potentially make them worried about lying in the run up and very uncomfortable on return. Just tell the truth, it's easier for everyone and fairer to the child!