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Aibu to think this guy's a bum?

31 replies

Euro24 · 30/06/2024 06:59

Hi, my sister is seeing a guy in his forties, it's early days but employment wise he says he does 'this and that' but has no clear income stream that I can see.

What's more reading between the lines he's never really worked at all.

When he was in his late teens, he moved in with a 23-year-old single mum. It ended and he returned home to live with his mum (he was still unemployed) until his 30s where he moved into the flat of another single mum. This ended and he's now living alone.

Now please this is NOT a single mum bashing thread but these women all had accommodation and were in receipt of benefits that he could live off-if anything, this is a criticism of him not them.

(Though if I'm honest I do think it's a bit odd that a late teenage boy would wish to couple up with an older woman with a small child that's not even his. NOT for one moment am I suggesting this is sinister, absolutely not, however I can't imagine a normal teenage boy wanting to be around a small kid 24/7 when he could be out having fun/at university/learning a trade etc. Sorry if this offends but it's how I see it.)

He seems overly involved with his mum, who still does his washing (it's not that he couldn't do this himself!) lives in a rented council flat and is in receipt of some kind of benefits but tells my friend he makes a bit of money.
I think he says this as he wants her to think he earns something.
She seems to be going with that as she likes him but I'm like hmm...

Aibu to think this guy's a bum? He has no disability/ illness which prevents him from working (though of course I know disabled people work). I know there's eff all I can do about it if he is and it's my sister's life not mine but I'd like the views of other people. Maybe I'm being too harsh?

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Bananalanacake · 30/06/2024 09:21

She can have a relationship with him but put her foot down about not living together, see how fast he looks for someone else.

DelphiniumBlue · 30/06/2024 09:59

In my experience' this and that' sometimes means drug dealing in a small way, or something else that is on the shady side of the law. It possibly includes undeclared cash in hand jobs. It means " don't ask me questions about it because I'm not going incriminate myself, but there are reasons I don't want to go into it."
He is probably unskilled and doesn't have much of an earning capacity. But you say he now has a council flat, so who knows if he wants to keep that, or give it up to resume cocklodging.

Euro24 · 30/06/2024 10:35

bragpuss · 30/06/2024 09:01

Even more weird about MN is all the PP saying cocklodger get rid and then admitting that they have hosted a fair few in their time. I don't have any sympathy

Can't you see that a newly separated single mother may feel a bit down and thus vulnerable to such men?

These cocklodgers prey on that.

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Shinyandnew1 · 30/06/2024 10:38

Yep-he sounds like a drifter looking for accommodation. Does your sister own her own house??

bragpuss · 30/06/2024 10:50

Euro24 · 30/06/2024 10:35

Can't you see that a newly separated single mother may feel a bit down and thus vulnerable to such men?

These cocklodgers prey on that.

my point is more that lets say the guy in question is like Cillian Murphy's better looking younger brother, confident, kind, caring and the life and soul of the party, but can't hold down a job an utter cock lodger. And the women are peaky blinder addicts, recently separated with young kids, feeling down and lonely. What then?

Kitkatcatflap · 30/06/2024 11:20

My friend's brother is a classic CL. Good looking, funny and attentive. Great with kids as a 'big brother'. Between the laughs, he has all the sob stories, she was cold but I didn't take a thing when she threw me out (it was all hers, you didn't buy a thing ).

I can see how emotionally bruised single mums fall for the flattery, banter and the fact that the kids think he's great. Scratch the surface and the casual work soon dries up, the 'great idea for a business' never amounts to anything. The weed smoking increases and the cheeky rogue veneer wears off. My friend says she only hears from him when he's been turfed out. He uses the family in between relationships.

I agree with the above poster who said your sister can date him but don't let him move in.

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