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Is there any way to live happily or does he have to move out?

14 replies

woolymamouthh · 29/06/2024 12:18

Step son is mid 20s and has lived with me for a couple of years now however his dad/my husband passed away 5 years ago and I've always remained close to him and he opted to move in which I was happy about, this was because we had more room and he was sharing with his step brother at his mums so he came here for his own room which was always his when he stayed.
Since moving in he has left his room a tip and the probably not very practical white walls are black with filth, I can't remember how many times I've painted them.
I'm constantly scrubbing coffee and hot chocolate drips out the carpet where he drips it through the house apparently not realising.
I don't cook for him so he cooks for himself but scrubs so hard he has taken all the surface off the frying pan and pots so the bottoms are just silver.
He's ruined nearly every utensil I own through bending mashers and cheese graters, and even the bath is blacks and stained which won't come off so I've told him he'd only having showers from now on.
He comes home and kicks his shoes off, chucks his bag on the sofa, slings his coat on the dining chair, walks into the kitchen and chucks down his lunch box and whatever else and within minutes of him being home the house I've cleaned and tidied is a trail of his mess.
I would like a nice house but I'm damned if I'm going to keep decorating just for it to be filthy again a short while later.
He does his own laundry but will either forget and leave it out on the line or he'll bring it in and leave it screwed up in the basket for days, his things are strewn all over the house, wet towels left on the bathroom floor, crumbs all over the kitchen sides and I'm sick to death of cleaning up after him.
I've said he can go back to his mums if it continues but then he's all apologetic and full of promise to do better which lasts about a week and I'm back cleaning everything again because attempts at leaving it prove to be indefinite for example he left his plate at the table which only had to be put in the dishwasher the other side of the kitchen so I left it there to make a point and after 3 days I put it in there myself.
I wfh and I hate mess and so it gets to me a lot and I end up doing it because I want a clean and tidy home.
He has a brother who cleans up after himself and keeps his room nice and ss claims to but it's not good enough.
It's got got the point where I don't want to have anyone round anymore because I'm so ashamed of our house and was thinking about moving in the near future but I couldn't possibly show anyone around at the moment.
I have had enough and want to ask him to start looking for something else which will probably result in him going back to his mum but then I'll be forever the bad guy and I want to stay close to him as I've been in his life so long and my youngest son is his brother and apart from this ongoing issue we enjoy living together but we have the same conversation over and over and I don't know how to resolve it.

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SleepingStandingUp · 29/06/2024 12:52

He needs to move out. Presumably your other son lives with you. Does he get away with this kind of disrespect? Does he feel comfortable having friends over?

Tell him he needs to move out by X so you don't end up falling out. You love him but this is no longer fair on you or his brother

OliveWah · 29/06/2024 13:33

If, in an ideal world, you would want DSS to stay living with you, but to tidy up after himself, I think it's worth having one last real heart-to-heart conversation with him.

I would stress that you really want him to stay, but for the sake of your own mental health (and that of your DS), you cannot continue to live in squalor. Make sure he knows that you are serious about him moving out, but that would would much prefer him to get his act together. He needs to know that you mean it, and at the first sign of him returning to his old ways, you will be giving him one month's (or however long) notice to leave. I would stress how it makes you feel, things like disrespected, disappointed, ashamed to have people round, taken for granted - if he is an otherwise decent lad, this might pull at the heartstrings a bit.

I think it's lovely that you want your DSS to stay, but fully understand why you can't continue to live as you are.

hs2000 · 29/06/2024 13:49

I don't think you can kick him out of his father's home but he obviously needs to be shown how to clean up properly and sat down and some house rules be agreed.
If he hasn't learnt it at his mother's house by now he won't by going back there so be the influence that helps him for his own good.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/06/2024 13:52

hs2000 · 29/06/2024 13:49

I don't think you can kick him out of his father's home but he obviously needs to be shown how to clean up properly and sat down and some house rules be agreed.
If he hasn't learnt it at his mother's house by now he won't by going back there so be the influence that helps him for his own good.

How ridiculous of course she can ask him to leave, it's entirely her house now.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/06/2024 13:56

hs2000 · 29/06/2024 13:49

I don't think you can kick him out of his father's home but he obviously needs to be shown how to clean up properly and sat down and some house rules be agreed.
If he hasn't learnt it at his mother's house by now he won't by going back there so be the influence that helps him for his own good.

FGS, his father is dead. It's entirely the op's home now and she is not his mother. This young man sounds absolutely disgusting and shockingly rude. I would tell him to leave immediately.

Sagarmatha · 29/06/2024 14:00

He needs to grow up. He'll only do that if you ask him to move out.

He's treating you like a hotel.

Tough love im afraid.

mybeesarealive · 29/06/2024 14:10

Time to pull on your big girl pants and to tell him it's time to find new accommodation. Tell him he needs to have found his own place within three months. Be firm about it (and make clear that if he hasn't found somewhere by then, he still has to leave, even if that means going back to his mum).

SuperGreens · 29/06/2024 14:14

Ultimatum time. Spell it out - these things stop now or you will be required to leave. And he needs to bring the house back to scratch, paint his room, clean the bathroom, carpet cleaner etc - you can advise but not help. If he were well trained he could potentially be a help, but he obviously needs a lot of guidance to get to that point. If he refuses, he's shown the door no debate.

MatildaTheCat · 29/06/2024 14:16

I’d frame it as ‘it will be better for both of us for you to get your own place now,’ rather than, ‘you have to leave.’

That doesn’t mean you’ll be talked round because that’s not happening, just a kinder way of moving him along. He really does need to move into a house share or similar and start fending for himself properly. He’ll probably continue to live in filth but it won’t be your house/ you suffering

Beautifulbythebay · 29/06/2024 14:21

How much rent does he pay? He needs to be paying for a cleaner...

Clearinguptheclutter · 29/06/2024 14:21

What on earth is he doing to make the bath and walls “black”?

anyway he needs to shape up or ship out. Try one last heart to heart and explain you’d like him to stay but it’s just not working for both of you. He’s being totally disrespectful!

Floofydawg · 29/06/2024 14:23

I wouldn't put up with that from my own adult child, never mind someone else's. Get him out.

NotTram · 29/06/2024 14:25

He needs to go

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/06/2024 14:41

hs2000 · 29/06/2024 13:49

I don't think you can kick him out of his father's home but he obviously needs to be shown how to clean up properly and sat down and some house rules be agreed.
If he hasn't learnt it at his mother's house by now he won't by going back there so be the influence that helps him for his own good.

She can, step has nothing to do with it. I’d be gettIng rid of my own son if he was so disrespectful.

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