Why are newly trained doctors not getting jobs and leaving the UK when we’re so short of doctors?

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Just read a worrying thread in education re newly trained doctors being treated really badly and unable to get posts after training. Leaving for Australia/ New Zealand seems to be quite popular.

From my recent dealings with the NHS it seems to be a shortage of doctors that is a huge issue. So what is going on and why isn’t this being focused on more in the election?

What is the point of us as a country training doctors only to not give them work leaving them to emigrate whilst we then recruit from abroad? It’s not cost effective.

My friend a GP bought into a practice took her a decade and 250k of her earnings to get a partnership. This was 15 years ago. Daresay it will be more now.

Who can afford to buy into a practice these days?

All most doctors want at the moment is a job. Any job. F2s are facing unemployment in a few weeks as no jobs for them. In an NHS crying out for more staff.
PAs are taking training opportunities from doctors, leaving them to do the grunt work in some cases.
GPs can't get jobs due to the stupidity of ARSE funding (my name for it).
It's almost like someone wants us all dead, unless we are rich.

We are the only country in the world who do not give priority to our own trained staff. So anyone can apply from anywhere in the world, with no experience of the NHS.

We spend ££££ training them but then don't employ them. It doesn't make sense.

It's not just doctors. Thousands of nurses are qualifying and can't get jobs.

Plenty of band 5 jobs for nurses with experience. But very few (none) for those newly qualified.

I've heard of nurses about to qualify being contacted by trusts and having job offers withdrawn.

The nhs is a mess.

It's any NHS job. It's getting to the point that replacing staff that have left is extremely difficult let alone creating new posts if you wanted to expand a service/train more junior doctors/nurses/AHPs. If you need more non-clinical roles to support all those clinical staff you can absolutely forget it.

What a mess. Things HAVE to change after the 4th. I'm going to remain hopeful (because the alternative involves kangaroos and koalas for me).

I've been scrutinising the manifestos to see if any of the parties have specifically mentioned this bottleneck but haven't found anything yet. Anyone had more luck than me?

www.dauk.org/news/2024/05/03/frustration-for-final-year-medical-students-still-to-be-allocated-jobs/

www.nursingtimes.net/news/education/new-nurses-struggle-to-find-jobs-despite-national-shortage-20-06-2024/

What a mess we are in.

https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/bma-seeks-deal-on-doctor-unemployment-as-survey-reveals-half-of-resident-doctors-finishing-foundation-training-have-no-job-to-go-to-next-month

Are we going to see change now?

Remember they can all talk but until we see it in action....

At our closest hospital 8 doctors were let go leaving two. It's crazy. My GP the senior partner said the government and the BMA are to blame