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* TW: Child abuse * I'm horrified at the unduly lenient sentences given to these paedophiles

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PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 16:46

Trigger warning: child abuse. Please don't read on if this is a subject that distresses you. I've NC before posting as this is a local case.

I have come across this story today and I can't believe what I've read. These bastards were sentenced to 2 years and 6 months each, for 'pimping' out children to be abused.

Even the language used outrages me. How is it just referred to as 'controlling prostitution', they are children?!

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/men-jailed-sexual-exploitation-london-young-girls-met-police-v100-b1166364.html

One of them is from my area and I'm horrified that they will be out in 1 year.

I have contacted the attorney generals office and put in an application to have their sentences reviewed as being unduly leniant. I would hope that I'm not the only person who felt compelled to do so because my mind is blown.

If anybody here feels similarly then the info on how request a sentence review is here:

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

AIBU to think that this is outrageous?

* TW: Child abuse * I'm horrified at the unduly lenient sentences given to these paedophiles
* TW: Child abuse * I'm horrified at the unduly lenient sentences given to these paedophiles
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Pippa246 · 25/06/2024 16:58

@PercyThePigsMum YANBU - this is atrocious and abhorrent. It’s hardly “protecting communities” as they claim.

would be interesting to know the demographics of the victims - but I’d hazard a guess they are not white middle class children and therefore seen more as “child prostitutes” than abused children. Like in Rotherham when the victims were not seen as children who needed protected.

PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 17:08

Pippa246 · 25/06/2024 16:58

@PercyThePigsMum YANBU - this is atrocious and abhorrent. It’s hardly “protecting communities” as they claim.

would be interesting to know the demographics of the victims - but I’d hazard a guess they are not white middle class children and therefore seen more as “child prostitutes” than abused children. Like in Rotherham when the victims were not seen as children who needed protected.

That is exactly what I have just been saying to my friend.

The sentences reflect very clearly the courts opinion on the victims. They don't care about what those children went through at all.

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FOJN · 25/06/2024 17:14

They've been convicted on two charges of "controlling prostitution" after pleading guilty but the met have "safeguarded three victims". How does that work?

They've done a deal and got a light sentence. To add insult to injury they will only be on the sex offenders register for 7 years.

The fact that the victims were minors barely seems to have been considered in the sentencing.

PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 17:19

FOJN · 25/06/2024 17:14

They've been convicted on two charges of "controlling prostitution" after pleading guilty but the met have "safeguarded three victims". How does that work?

They've done a deal and got a light sentence. To add insult to injury they will only be on the sex offenders register for 7 years.

The fact that the victims were minors barely seems to have been considered in the sentencing.

100%!

As though after 7 years they're no longer going to be a danger to children. I wouldn't want those creatures anywhere near a child neither now or in 50 years time.

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HotelCustody · 25/06/2024 17:22

I’ve got a convicted sex offender who has been in my Custody 3 times in the last week for breaching his sexual harm prevention order, each time he has been released by Court within the morning, under the same conditions. The prisons are full, in parts of the South they have no prison places.

You’d be surprised and horrified who is being released, the Police are leaving in frustration, six left in the last week because they see no point in the role anymore.

wheresthebigcarrot · 25/06/2024 17:24

The prisons are full. Those that aren't will be full within days. It's a crisis waiting to happen - and if we're as quick at building prisons as we are at building hospitals, then....... this will continue to happen daily.

oakleaffy · 25/06/2024 17:29

wheresthebigcarrot · 25/06/2024 17:24

The prisons are full. Those that aren't will be full within days. It's a crisis waiting to happen - and if we're as quick at building prisons as we are at building hospitals, then....... this will continue to happen daily.

Can’t overseas criminals be deported to serve sentences in their own countries?

Seems there is a revolving door of sex offenders here-
revolting.

They know a vulnerable child at 100 paces.

PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 17:29

HotelCustody · 25/06/2024 17:22

I’ve got a convicted sex offender who has been in my Custody 3 times in the last week for breaching his sexual harm prevention order, each time he has been released by Court within the morning, under the same conditions. The prisons are full, in parts of the South they have no prison places.

You’d be surprised and horrified who is being released, the Police are leaving in frustration, six left in the last week because they see no point in the role anymore.

I can't even begin to imagine how soul destroying that is for you and your colleagues. I'm so sorry.

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JaniceBattersby · 25/06/2024 17:31

The problem is that there isn’t really a ‘law’ to deal with this situation. Until very, very recently even children engaged in ‘prostitution’ were not seen as victims. The legislation they are being prosecuted was designed for your standard pimps.

The police have done their job and the judge has sentenced within the guidelines (and presumably used the age of the victims as an aggravating feature). The law needs to change.

PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 17:31

wheresthebigcarrot · 25/06/2024 17:24

The prisons are full. Those that aren't will be full within days. It's a crisis waiting to happen - and if we're as quick at building prisons as we are at building hospitals, then....... this will continue to happen daily.

It's terrible.

There are short tariff IPP's still rotting away in prison 10 years later for misdemeanours like stealing a bicycle, repeated knock backs by the parole board, meanwhile sex offenders are out in no time.

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wheresthebigcarrot · 25/06/2024 17:38

Absolutely right. Meanwhile, the plan is to try to move towards a place where offenders serve 40% of their sentence to keep the prisons clearer.

It's just so worrying.

SendMeHomeNow · 25/06/2024 17:39

JaniceBattersby · 25/06/2024 17:31

The problem is that there isn’t really a ‘law’ to deal with this situation. Until very, very recently even children engaged in ‘prostitution’ were not seen as victims. The legislation they are being prosecuted was designed for your standard pimps.

The police have done their job and the judge has sentenced within the guidelines (and presumably used the age of the victims as an aggravating feature). The law needs to change.

This was my first thought. The Police have done their bit, the courts have done what they can within the current sentencing guidelines. It’s an absolute joke and must make the poor victims feel worthless.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 25/06/2024 17:39

I’d support euthanasia for sex offenders. And I’d be quite prepared to do it.

PercyThePigsMum · 25/06/2024 17:45

Allthehorsesintheworld · 25/06/2024 17:39

I’d support euthanasia for sex offenders. And I’d be quite prepared to do it.

Me too.

I don't know how they can even live with themselves. If I was that way inclined I would sooner be dead.

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cupcaske123 · 25/06/2024 18:01

I on the other hand don't support the death penalty. However, their sentences are an insult to those children and the lifetime of harm this may have caused.

Rape and sexual assault of women and girls is treated disgracefully in this country.

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