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Phone lines - press 1 - hate them

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Flyhigher · 25/06/2024 15:15

Am I the only one that absolutely hates phone lines now.

Press 1 for some overcomplicated reason
Press 2 for obscure 2nd reason.
press 3 for something I've never heard of.

I switch off almost instantly.
Does anyone else do this?
It's a nightmare.

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Blouson · 25/06/2024 15:18

Now? We;ve had these for about 25 years at least.

Fonejacker - Ticketline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_pjbPE1Z_U

Kingoftheroad · 25/06/2024 15:22

I absolutely detest this. Especially when they go into a long spiel about why you should use their website. If I were able to do what I had to do on line, then I would and wouldn’t be calling.

companies just don’t want to pay for reception staff so, with no thought for their customers they do this

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 25/06/2024 15:23

Generally, they're effective and save you having to try to explain something to several humans. As above, they're not what they were when they were first introduced many years ago - now they're pretty efficient and easy to use. Doesn't mean you're not sat on hold forever still, but that's by the by.

Flyhigher · 25/06/2024 15:28

I think they are worse.
Tell you to go on the website all the time.
Need short clear explanations on each option.
So long winded.
Why not give you separate numbers to ring online instead.

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Flyhigher · 25/06/2024 15:33

Have to ring online for my mums account as I am POA. And I can't use the app. It's infuriating to be told to use the app.

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BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 25/06/2024 15:35

I don't love them, but I MUCH prefer them to the automated "Now, please say in a few words what your call today is about"
Or even worse "Please state your member number out loud" - it's anumber, why can't I just type it in!

Mauhea · 25/06/2024 15:40

I get that they can't cover everything but some of them are just so frustrating. I had to call Maternity Triage on the weekend and none of the options were an obvious "I have a problem that I'm not sure I'm worrying too much or too little about". Then the overthinking kicked in and I was scared of pressing a button that would tie up the line for greater emergencies.

Lovetotravel123 · 25/06/2024 15:44

I just called a call centre of a well known bank and the person taking the call was clearly outside as I could hear the wind. I don’t object to people WFH but because of the wind at her end I couldn’t hear what she was saying. It sounded like she was out for a walk.

randomchap · 25/06/2024 15:53

Some companies deliberately use IVRs to deter customers.

I used to set these up many years ago. For good customer experience, we'd advise no more than 4 options and 2 rounds of questions. Giving 16 possible endpoints

Some of the people we worked for would set them up to be deliberately confusing just to stop calls coming through

shearwater2 · 25/06/2024 15:54

I don't mind if they actually work and get you through to the right person. What I hate is when you have to listen to twelve options, none of which are correct, then have a long wait to speak to anyone.

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 25/06/2024 15:56

randomchap · 25/06/2024 15:53

Some companies deliberately use IVRs to deter customers.

I used to set these up many years ago. For good customer experience, we'd advise no more than 4 options and 2 rounds of questions. Giving 16 possible endpoints

Some of the people we worked for would set them up to be deliberately confusing just to stop calls coming through

I've often wondered if all the options go through to the same people, and they put them on to make the wait seem shorter. So for example you're in a 4 minute Queue, but spend 2 minutes going through menus so it feels like a 2 minute wait - have you ever had that or have I spent too long listening to conspiracy theorists?!

PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 15:58

It's nothing new. Pain In the arse. Can't imagine anyone likes it.

S0livagant · 25/06/2024 15:59

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 25/06/2024 15:23

Generally, they're effective and save you having to try to explain something to several humans. As above, they're not what they were when they were first introduced many years ago - now they're pretty efficient and easy to use. Doesn't mean you're not sat on hold forever still, but that's by the by.

I don't mind them efficient or easy. They don't understand what I say, either the words or the meaning. Then when the music starts they constantly interrupt to say automated things so you think it's a person picking up.

S0livagant · 25/06/2024 16:01

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 25/06/2024 15:35

I don't love them, but I MUCH prefer them to the automated "Now, please say in a few words what your call today is about"
Or even worse "Please state your member number out loud" - it's anumber, why can't I just type it in!

Then they say 'Did you say...?'. No, I did not.

Immemorialelms · 25/06/2024 16:02

Enshittification. Everything a tiny bit worse for each individual customer, everything a tiny bit more profitable for the supplier, nothing quite bad enough to make you go through the pain of switching provider.

lazyarse123 · 25/06/2024 16:07

I've found it easier to just press the option that says you are thinking of leaving them, even when I'm not. Funnily enough they seem to get to that one quicker. Such a pain in the arse.

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 25/06/2024 16:22

lazyarse123 · 25/06/2024 16:07

I've found it easier to just press the option that says you are thinking of leaving them, even when I'm not. Funnily enough they seem to get to that one quicker. Such a pain in the arse.

I found the opposite, I was trying to leave sky and the wait was ages - I called again saying I wanted to sign up and got straight through!

Flyhigher · 25/06/2024 16:57

randomchap · 25/06/2024 15:53

Some companies deliberately use IVRs to deter customers.

I used to set these up many years ago. For good customer experience, we'd advise no more than 4 options and 2 rounds of questions. Giving 16 possible endpoints

Some of the people we worked for would set them up to be deliberately confusing just to stop calls coming through

Definitely this.

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Dontbeabitterlemon · 25/06/2024 17:43

So so true!

Auburngal · 25/06/2024 17:57

Sometimes I press the right options or say what the call is about and get to the wrong department. Some CSAs/companies transfer me to the relevant department. Those who refused - had to dial again, hoping that there was a crosswire somewhere which made me connect to wrong department. A couple of times I got connected to the same but wrong department I got fed up with this and asked to transfer me now.

This used to happen when I worked in call centres. I was on the general customer service bit but often get people connected to me wanting to cancel, sign up, which wasn't my skill. I transferred them - either warm transfer when I spoke to another CSA before handing the customer over or cold transfer, put them in the queue.

Auburngal · 25/06/2024 18:00

I'm sure that they employ CSAs at the Student Loan Company (SLC) which are based in Glasgow based on their thickest Glaswegian accents and not for their skills, helpfulness. Never had a CSA I could understand.

FarmGirl78 · 25/06/2024 18:03

You used to be able to secretly bypass these by just pressing '0' 3 times and it would put you straight through to a human, but lots of places have stopped it. Grumble grumble grumble.

Caffeineislife · 25/06/2024 18:09

I think the idea of them is a good one. The idea being that it directs you to the correct department quickly without having to wait in 1 queue to go via a receptionist or switchboard. The execution by almost all companies however is very poor. They are always understaffed so waiting times are long and everyone knows the "we are experiencing an unexpected high volume of calls" message is absolute BS and actually means we are too cheap to staff our phone lines correctly. Some companies have menu options which are too vague or a problem could fall under 2 categories or falls into the "anything else" category. Some menus are so long winded that it is obviously queue control.

Nowadays almost everyone tries to do it on the app or online first so the constant "you can do this online/ on the app" is just annoying as bar very few (usually elderly or vulnerable customers who for whatever reason struggle to use the app) most people are on the phone because computer said no.

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 18:13

Most of them work well I find

LightSpeeds · 25/06/2024 18:26

And 5 whole minutes of preamble before you even get to those options...

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