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To expect homework and revision to be put on Teams?

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 14:34

At my DD's school they use Teams but also have a paper planner.

Some teachers put all homework/revision on Teams whether it is online homework or real life work. (Some go above and beyond and give summaries of the lesson's learning!) Some put the instructions for the homework on Teams but don't add the worksheet or whatever you need to complete it. Some just don't put it on at all.

My DD is in Y7 and has autism. She is immature for her age and has a lot of executive functioning issues and motor skill issues affecting her writing.She does her best with her homework but I keep an eye on Teams to make sure she completes homework/revision. The problem is in class sometimes she doesn't get all the homework written down due to her motor skills. She also sometimes misses school and then does not know about the homework or test.

Wouldn't it just be better to put it all on Teams then everyone knows? And include the resources so if someone wasn't in class they can still complete the homework. Surely in this day and age that's not too much to ask?

It would make such a difference for my DD.

I like to hear opinions as to if I am unreasonable before talking to the school.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:05

Newbutoldfather · 25/06/2024 20:34

@Riversideandrelax ,

OK, firstly the stress. A Year 7 doesn’t need that! If the school is putting her under pressure, then you do need to make an urgent appointment. If it is self induced or you are putting pressure on her, then you need to work on that with her.

Unless she is passionate about Geography, I really would forget it, or just ask her what she is learning and talk about it with her. As for Science, see if they are following a scheme (‘Exploring Science’ is a popular one). If they are, see if you can get online access and you can find tons of resources to help her. Just choose one that is relevant for what she is learning and gives he sufficient but not too much challenge. As for French, it is a bit of an optional extra. I would hate to discourage someone who loved it and had linguistic talent but, for most, it does seem to have become a chore (which is sad).

Maths was the one I was most concerned about, as that, like a language, it does require practice and you don’t want to fall too far behind. Again, there are tons of resources online. If you are mathematically minded, just google ‘Year 7, end of year exam’ and go through it with her. Then give her practice in areas of weakness.

Try to work with the school rather than against it. As in most professions, there are lazy and useless teachers but the vast majority do care about the pupils they teach and would hate to feel that they are letting them down.

Certain teachers put pressure on but most of them do not. I certainly try not to put on any undue pressure but it's always good to check yourself. A lot is self induced. She is scared of getting into trouble even though this is unlikely. Unfortunately, one incident can stay in her mind. One not particularly pleasant teacher put the fear of god into her about not completing some homework. This teacher had clearly put the wrong due date in on Teams and decided to blame little Y7s for it! So now she is always nervous about homework.

She hates Geography because tbh, the teacher is horrendous.
Yes good idea about the scheme for Science.
She is pretty good in languages but for Y8 they choose either French or Spanish to concentrate on and she's doing Spanish so I'm not bothered about French now!
That is sad if it is just a chore to many. I think language learning is really important. For some they seemed to be starting from scratch in Y7 but my DD knew a bit of both languages so has been easier for her.

I already do extra practice with her at home in Maths. And I get lists of revision from school now which is good. Just the pain of Maths Watch (dependant on the subject!)

And yes, most of her teachers are lovely. And some are just that extra bit special too. But yes always be a few not so great...just hope for a better teacher next year!

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:10

NorthernGirlie · 25/06/2024 20:54

I literally laughed out loud at your response!

How the fuck do you know what teachers are doing at home?

Genuinely - in the run up to GCSEs this year I was posting on Teams every time I spotted something useful. sometimes at midnight if a content creator had posted on TikTok etc

I scheduled posts (taught myself how to do that - in my own time) so they'd appear in the morning though - my students and parents wouldn't know that!

There's a thread running right now where teachers are posting about working on laptops when sat at their own children's hospital bedsides.

You have no idea. None.

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Because I'm friends with them! Teachers do have friends you know!

And that's lovely that you are doing that. But you must realise most teachers are not up at midnight on tiktok.

And yes, as an ex-teacher, I have plenty idea.

I could however say you seem to have no idea (none!) about real life. But that would be hyperbole.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:12

Lucia573 · 25/06/2024 20:56

It takes me about a minute to set a Teams Assignment and I am no computer whizz. It’s absolutely simple. You type an instruction; attach any worksheet etc you want (a few clicks); click on the date you want it in, type how many marks it’s out of: done. It’s quicker than writing an instruction on the board, saves faffing around photocopying, even stores the marks for you in Grades. You can set an assignment whilst talking to someone etc. it’s time saving! If you have a decent scheme of work, you have the assignment instructions and links to any handouts etc within it.

It definitely seems to work well for many teachers.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:15

Phineyj · 25/06/2024 20:57

Teams is such a clunky programme too. It wasn't even designed for educational use. Schools like it because it comes free with the other Microsoft apps.

No-one was routinely getting e copies of homework before 2020. A few schools were using Show My Homework maybe.

It's definitely a relatively new expectation and usually duplicated by paper systems, planners etc.

My DS definitely was. But this was on Moodle. No planner.

I also wouldn't say nowadays it is usually duplicated by planners. Of my DD's friends who started in Y7 hers and one other are the only schools who have a planner. The rest all online.

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Lucia573 · 25/06/2024 21:17

MistressIggi · 25/06/2024 20:59

@Lucia573 I assume it takes you a minute when you have the app already open, the right class open on it, nothing is freezing or going slowwwwly, you just want to type instructions and not attach a file with some information etc.
You aren't in SLT are you? They seem to find lots of "it only takes a minute" tasks for us to do.

No, I’m just a regular teacher. I have the Teams app open most of the time, so it’s good to go. Switching between classes is easy: I teach 7 groups. You just click on the ‘tile’ for that team. We were given pretty good training on it as a response to Covid. I’m lucky in that my school is well-resourced.

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:17

notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 21:02

completely pointless, as they know nothing about the IT system or staffing in your child's school.

It's helping me. So therefore not pointless. You don't have to join in though if you think it's pointless.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:19

MistressIggi · 25/06/2024 20:59

@Lucia573 I assume it takes you a minute when you have the app already open, the right class open on it, nothing is freezing or going slowwwwly, you just want to type instructions and not attach a file with some information etc.
You aren't in SLT are you? They seem to find lots of "it only takes a minute" tasks for us to do.

Plenty of regular teachers do find Teams easy to use. But clearly many don't.

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NorthernGirlie · 25/06/2024 21:20

You're pals with all of the teachers in the school? Aye - OK 👍

I'm not pals with / privvy to the home lives of all of the teachers in my department!

Ex teacher eh? You've mentioned that a few times. Why ex? Also - pre Covid... lots has changed.

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:23

NorthernGirlie · 25/06/2024 21:20

You're pals with all of the teachers in the school? Aye - OK 👍

I'm not pals with / privvy to the home lives of all of the teachers in my department!

Ex teacher eh? You've mentioned that a few times. Why ex? Also - pre Covid... lots has changed.

I don't think I wrote 'all'!

Why would you be pals or privvy to the home lives of the teachers in your department?? Confused

Why ex? Maybe not wanting to work with nightmares like you!! 😂

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BibbleandSqwauk · 25/06/2024 21:27

Soontobe60 · 25/06/2024 17:45

Out of interest, when do you do this?

Usually in the lesson, when they are packing up. I have the app permanently open on my desktop. If I have a free and I am sufficiently organised I'll set it for all 4 year 7 classes at the same time and schedule it to pop up at the right time. I was a total luddite and actually scared of Teams when it came in but thanks to some v patient colleagues who walked me through it a few times, it really is the work of moments.

MistressIggi · 25/06/2024 21:48

Lucia573 · 25/06/2024 21:17

No, I’m just a regular teacher. I have the Teams app open most of the time, so it’s good to go. Switching between classes is easy: I teach 7 groups. You just click on the ‘tile’ for that team. We were given pretty good training on it as a response to Covid. I’m lucky in that my school is well-resourced.

Yes you are lucky! The app slows our PCs down. I teach twice as many classes as you. I know exactly how to use Teams, again thanks to covid. I put homework on Teams myself, but I don't underestimate the time it takes me to do it.

Mookie81 · 25/06/2024 22:26

summersofdoom · 25/06/2024 15:53

why are you being so rude?

You sound like another of these parents who believe teachers stroll into classrooms at 9am and leave at 3pm doing not much in between.

In an ideal world, I am sure the perfect system would be prefered. Feel free to pay for specific private school with much smaller classrooms and more staff who have time to keep the parents happy.

Perhaps you need some support on how schools actually work?

Agree it was rude, it was actually one of the cuntiest replies I've ever seen towards a teacher, on here or elsewhere.

NorthernGirlie · 25/06/2024 22:58

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 21:23

I don't think I wrote 'all'!

Why would you be pals or privvy to the home lives of the teachers in your department?? Confused

Why ex? Maybe not wanting to work with nightmares like you!! 😂

There'll be none of us 'nightmares' left to teach your child soon, never mind put shite on Teams!

Parents like you make us want to leave.

One of my best colleagues quit last year - the final nail was a parent complaining (in writing to the Head) about her using the wrong homophone in a sentence on Teams... she's dyslexic. She taught maths - not English. Bloody fabulous teacher though.

Sometimes putting shite on Teams just gives knob head parents something else to grab us by the balls about.

Superhansrantowindsor · 25/06/2024 23:10

Some teachers in high school teach each lesson in a different classroom that means they lose time packing everything up at the end of each lesson. Some are part time. Some have lots of a level classes that can work independently whilst the teacher uploads assignments. Some classrooms have better computers than others. Some staff have extra pastoral responsibilities that eat into their time. It’s not too hard to see why there are variations in how homework is set.

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:25

NorthernGirlie · 25/06/2024 22:58

There'll be none of us 'nightmares' left to teach your child soon, never mind put shite on Teams!

Parents like you make us want to leave.

One of my best colleagues quit last year - the final nail was a parent complaining (in writing to the Head) about her using the wrong homophone in a sentence on Teams... she's dyslexic. She taught maths - not English. Bloody fabulous teacher though.

Sometimes putting shite on Teams just gives knob head parents something else to grab us by the balls about.

That's interesting. I get on very well with most of the teachers at my DD's school. But yes, there's always one! And I bet that's you! You're the type of teacher that makes other teachers want to leave because you're so unpleasant.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:26

Mookie81 · 25/06/2024 22:26

Agree it was rude, it was actually one of the cuntiest replies I've ever seen towards a teacher, on here or elsewhere.

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It was a completely genuine reply. I don't understand why ND people always have to read something extra into everything!!

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whiteboardking · 25/06/2024 23:26

We use google classroom but exact same issue. One child with adhd and one with head in clouds. Would be easier if all on GC. Or at least a reminder

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:29

Superhansrantowindsor · 25/06/2024 23:10

Some teachers in high school teach each lesson in a different classroom that means they lose time packing everything up at the end of each lesson. Some are part time. Some have lots of a level classes that can work independently whilst the teacher uploads assignments. Some classrooms have better computers than others. Some staff have extra pastoral responsibilities that eat into their time. It’s not too hard to see why there are variations in how homework is set.

They actually don't in this school which I thought was pretty good. Only 3 lessons per day too. But yes, I know people have different constraints Although it seems for many it is simply the digital technology they have at the school.

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TeenLifeMum · 25/06/2024 23:30

My DD’s school has Google classroom and I get an email every Friday that lists all the homework. It’s great. Maths is on a different platform but I know this and it still appears on the emailed list.

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:30

whiteboardking · 25/06/2024 23:26

We use google classroom but exact same issue. One child with adhd and one with head in clouds. Would be easier if all on GC. Or at least a reminder

We get an email which is meant to let you know what homework your DC has. However, it is based on Teams so obviously if it's not on there it defeats the purpose of the email.

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Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:31

TeenLifeMum · 25/06/2024 23:30

My DD’s school has Google classroom and I get an email every Friday that lists all the homework. It’s great. Maths is on a different platform but I know this and it still appears on the emailed list.

Yes we get an email like that too. But obviously if the teacher's not put the homework on there it doesn't show so you're none the wiser.

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TeenLifeMum · 25/06/2024 23:37

@Riversideandrelax ours is all on there so we don’t have that issue. Dd1 is 16 and dtds 12 and just finished year 8.

I’d argue, what’s the point of the email if it’s incomplete?

Riversideandrelax · 25/06/2024 23:49

TeenLifeMum · 25/06/2024 23:37

@Riversideandrelax ours is all on there so we don’t have that issue. Dd1 is 16 and dtds 12 and just finished year 8.

I’d argue, what’s the point of the email if it’s incomplete?

Quite.

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AndThatsItReally · 25/06/2024 23:53

You have been rude and unpleasant to me - and blamed it on your autism. You have been rude to others who have picked you up on it.

You are not the only autistic person in the world - there are others on here who are autistic or ND or live with those who are. And the subject of your thread will be one they naturally have an interest in - mostly to offer help or advice.

They manage not to be rude and unpleasant to everyone. (Or at least apologise if they realise they came across in a way that wasn't intended). I personally hate bad behaviour, rudeness or unpleasantness being seen as an autistic trait. It isn't. (And as I said many of us are very familiar with autism).

But life's too short to be bothering with this. I'm sure you and your daughter will sort it out.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 22:48

reelcat · 25/06/2024 20:43

You are saying you can't understand how it takes 10 mins to put something on teams but it took you an hour to answer 1 pie chart question on Mathswatch. Surely you can see from that that everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Mathswatch isn't perfect but also quite good in comparrison with other apps. It took my year 7 daughter 10 minutes for one pie chart question recently (I remember as she was complaining it took her so long!) so I had a go out of interest and it took me just under 5. It takes me 7-10 mins per class for teams homework to be set and can be a complete faff.

I see what you are saying but typing something in on Teams doesn't seem a skill many would not have and I've not heard any complaints about it being so difficult. Clearly I have on here now, though - which has helped me understand. However, on the pie chart question every parent and teacher agreed it was an utter nightmare!

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