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To think food banks aren’t fit for purpose

579 replies

ForFirmBiscuit · 24/06/2024 22:35

I don’t need to use a food bank but when I did they gave me tins of soup, a small tin of meat pie, a litre of UHT and a small bag of oats, nothing fresh. I didn’t get much and I was really hungry as there wasn’t enough calories and it was insubstantial. It gave me loads of anxiety to be so hungry. It’s always been like that.
I think food banks should be supplied by the council and given proper budgets for good food, even if they made batches of soup themselves to give out it would be more filling than a tin of soup

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Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:31

THisbackwithavengeance · 25/06/2024 14:19

Don't worry, OP.

Labour will get in next week and then food banks will magically disappear and not be needed anymore.

But in answer to your original question, the Government does provide free food. It's called "benefits"

If benefits were paid some cash and some food vouchers then it would always gets spent in the right way.

so many children are in poverty because parents buy fags and alcohol instead of food.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:31

THisbackwithavengeance · 25/06/2024 14:19

Don't worry, OP.

Labour will get in next week and then food banks will magically disappear and not be needed anymore.

But in answer to your original question, the Government does provide free food. It's called "benefits"

Benefits are not as generous as you think and the rise in prices is outstripping the rate benefits rise.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:33

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:31

If benefits were paid some cash and some food vouchers then it would always gets spent in the right way.

so many children are in poverty because parents buy fags and alcohol instead of food.

So much stereotyping. You do realise most on benefits aren't like "benefits Britain"?

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:35

Waffle78 · 25/06/2024 14:14

Not if their living in a Travelodge with no cooking facilities. What are they ment to do? One documentary I watched about a family evicted after the dad lost his job. The teenage daughter was told to put a tin of beans on a radiator before she left for school. So when she got back it was warm to eat. She did have to eat it out the can but at least she was fed.

This is true but not everyone who uses foodbanks live in travelodges I do see your point , Foodbank users come in all forms.and some have the resources to heat up tins.

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:36

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:35

This is true but not everyone who uses foodbanks live in travelodges I do see your point , Foodbank users come in all forms.and some have the resources to heat up tins.

And sadly some don't and I think in the UK.thats shameful.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:37

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:33

So much stereotyping. You do realise most on benefits aren't like "benefits Britain"?

Even one or two is too many for this, or do you think it’s ok for parents to prioritise themselves in this way and their children suffer?

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:38

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:31

If benefits were paid some cash and some food vouchers then it would always gets spent in the right way.

so many children are in poverty because parents buy fags and alcohol instead of food.

"Those parents" would sell or swap vouchers neglected children will always be neglected regardless of how benefits are paid.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:39

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:38

"Those parents" would sell or swap vouchers neglected children will always be neglected regardless of how benefits are paid.

Sadly you are probably right. What a shitshow.

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:39

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:39

Sadly you are probably right. What a shitshow.

It Is.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:41

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:37

Even one or two is too many for this, or do you think it’s ok for parents to prioritise themselves in this way and their children suffer?

Yes there are the occasional type of parents like that but most people aren't in poverty for those reasons. It is very much an minority. Sounds like you blame anyone in poverty for being irresponsible and it is their own fault.

Blouson · 25/06/2024 14:41

As we're on the topic, would you say any regular users of foodbanks should be prioritising food above all fripperies of modern life?

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:43

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:41

Yes there are the occasional type of parents like that but most people aren't in poverty for those reasons. It is very much an minority. Sounds like you blame anyone in poverty for being irresponsible and it is their own fault.

There is a significant amount of personal responsibility in some cases, yes.

everything in life is a choice, sure some people have had really challenging circumstances but there are ( whether you like it or not) those that actively chose a life on benefits and do not spend the money responsibly and I really really don’t agree that this is as occasional as you believe it to be.

cupcaske123 · 25/06/2024 14:45

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:43

There is a significant amount of personal responsibility in some cases, yes.

everything in life is a choice, sure some people have had really challenging circumstances but there are ( whether you like it or not) those that actively chose a life on benefits and do not spend the money responsibly and I really really don’t agree that this is as occasional as you believe it to be.

Not all people using foodbanks are on benefits. There are a lot of working poor.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:46

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:43

There is a significant amount of personal responsibility in some cases, yes.

everything in life is a choice, sure some people have had really challenging circumstances but there are ( whether you like it or not) those that actively chose a life on benefits and do not spend the money responsibly and I really really don’t agree that this is as occasional as you believe it to be.

It is quite difficult to actively choose a life on UC. It is different now.

We are on UC and work. Probably shouldn't buy chocolate for the kids. I will just serve gruel next time.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:48

cupcaske123 · 25/06/2024 14:45

Not all people using foodbanks are on benefits. There are a lot of working poor.

I agree with this, should never be the case that working people are worse off. But they are and that is everything that’s wrong with the entire system. Everything on this thread is a symptom , the cause is something much more ingrained in society and politics and will probably never be solved.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:48

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:46

It is quite difficult to actively choose a life on UC. It is different now.

We are on UC and work. Probably shouldn't buy chocolate for the kids. I will just serve gruel next time.

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Your choice!

OhmygodDont · 25/06/2024 14:49

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:39

Sadly you are probably right. What a shitshow.

In our old house during Covid our neighbour was one of those. Selling the school food vouchers half price so she could buy crack. Kids living off shared noodle packets. Electric meter always beeping, the children where removed eventually but that took most of the covid lock downs. Ss was round every week, easy to spot as the only person with a lanyard who visited that house ever. The rest there junkies on pushbikes.

ImPunbelievable · 25/06/2024 14:49

ForFirmBiscuit · 25/06/2024 12:16

Make batches of food to hand out like soup, it’s more filling and nutritious and has more calories than a tin

Why don't YOU make soup for 700 people and then report back, rather than winging that people on here who are doing great work aren't doing it right?

I assume from your high horse that you also run or volunteer at foodbanks and have managed to find the secret way to do it well, sustainably, fairly and under budget?

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:50

OhmygodDont · 25/06/2024 14:49

In our old house during Covid our neighbour was one of those. Selling the school food vouchers half price so she could buy crack. Kids living off shared noodle packets. Electric meter always beeping, the children where removed eventually but that took most of the covid lock downs. Ss was round every week, easy to spot as the only person with a lanyard who visited that house ever. The rest there junkies on pushbikes.

Oh that’s so sad 😞

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:51

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:48

Your choice!

And quite happy with it thanks.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:51

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:51

And quite happy with it thanks.

You’ve taken something nothing about you and tried to make it all about you, so perhaps you do feel bad about what you spend your money on?!

Mrsjayy · 25/06/2024 14:55

ImPunbelievable · 25/06/2024 14:49

Why don't YOU make soup for 700 people and then report back, rather than winging that people on here who are doing great work aren't doing it right?

I assume from your high horse that you also run or volunteer at foodbanks and have managed to find the secret way to do it well, sustainably, fairly and under budget?

I saw a report on TV about a foodbank charity in Liverpool who also ran foodbank hubs from their main premises I can't imagine them rustling up soup or dahl on a daily basis. I do think people need to educate themselves about food poverty and not just throw about comments about pots of soup.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 14:56

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 25/06/2024 14:51

You’ve taken something nothing about you and tried to make it all about you, so perhaps you do feel bad about what you spend your money on?!

Er, no I don't. I took issue with your lazy stereotypes. Most families on benefits are because they don't get paid a decent wage and pay high rents so therefore they need a top up.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 25/06/2024 15:00

@askmenow
Now many are happy doing the minimum 16hrs and sit on benefits to top up their income....I

Part of the reason employment is as high as it is is the number of people working part-time. Would it be better to have more people not working at all?

@malachitegreen
no, they are charities, and they should not be funded by the state

Plenty of charities receive funding from the state, charities are often better placed to provide certain services than the NHS or LA.

user3344556 · 25/06/2024 15:01

TheWayTheLightFalls · 25/06/2024 13:56

It's not something I'm suggesting, it's something that a few places in the UK are trialling. If you Google "cash first approach" you'll find examples. Yes, it can involve food banks handing out vouchers or literally cash. I doubt that it'd be taking in public donations and then distributing them in cash; more likely schemes like this would be council funded or private grant-giving body funded.

My (elderly, but not in need) parents live near a food bank volunteer and she is always giving them parcels of fresh food that woukd otherwise be thrown away.

This is an issue we have. We receive about a tonne a week - a Transit van - of fresh produce which is in a good state but won't keep til the week after. A big part of my job is a) allocating it properly so the cooks get ingredients, hostel-dwellers get easy meals etc etc and b) dealing with the rest. We are quite good at it now but yes, some weeks there are leftovers. I went home with a bag of courgettes and lettuce last week, as did every volunteer who'd take some. If it's not in an edible state it goes to the local allotment for composting - and they swap me for herbs etc that we can then offer.

Yes, there's some really interesting thinking around this now, about what happens when you give people resources and agency through cash. This is an example.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-leaf-project-results-1.5752714

I volunteer with a food bank and we're seeing increasing numbers of people without the means to cook. I hate that so many are in this position.