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To think food banks aren’t fit for purpose

579 replies

ForFirmBiscuit · 24/06/2024 22:35

I don’t need to use a food bank but when I did they gave me tins of soup, a small tin of meat pie, a litre of UHT and a small bag of oats, nothing fresh. I didn’t get much and I was really hungry as there wasn’t enough calories and it was insubstantial. It gave me loads of anxiety to be so hungry. It’s always been like that.
I think food banks should be supplied by the council and given proper budgets for good food, even if they made batches of soup themselves to give out it would be more filling than a tin of soup

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ElizaJ74 · 26/06/2024 18:13

Blouson · 24/06/2024 23:02

A hell of a lot unfortunately. Im sure there'll be many many posts discussing this.

14 years of austerity is the easy answer

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 18:33

ElizaJ74 · 26/06/2024 18:13

14 years of austerity is the easy answer

Or just a war in Ukraine and a pandemic perhaps is the TRUTHFUL answer.

Meadowfinch · 26/06/2024 18:37

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 18:33

Or just a war in Ukraine and a pandemic perhaps is the TRUTHFUL answer.

Plus a drought around the Med, which is where a lot of our fruit & salad is grown.

Food in the UK is still inexpensive compared to many European countries.

Anonym00se · 26/06/2024 18:41

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 18:33

Or just a war in Ukraine and a pandemic perhaps is the TRUTHFUL answer.

They’ve definitely not helped anyone’s economic circumstances but the food bank explosion happened from 2010, long before the war or Covid.

Newnewland · 26/06/2024 18:45

It’s the government that isn’t for for purpose.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:49

anonhop · 26/06/2024 11:11

@EilonwyWithRedGoldHair

I appreciate your unique circumstances. However, FBs are there to stop people physically starving & they do that for a good number of people.
They're crisis packages for 3 days. Not for people to live on, so people might not be eating well for those 3 days if they have particular needs that the FB can't accommodate, but there will be enough that they don't starve for those 3 days.
I think long term services for people requiring support of many kinds is a totally different issue to FBs.

My understanding is that few people - even with neurodivergent needs - will starve to death when there is food available even when that food is not safe food for them. There may well be some, which is a unique circumstance, but I think most would manage to eat enough of it to last 3 days.

That's an emergency food bank. There are different types.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:50

Meetingofminds · 26/06/2024 18:33

Or just a war in Ukraine and a pandemic perhaps is the TRUTHFUL answer.

Except the explosion of FBs happened way before those 2 things.

Harmonypus · 26/06/2024 18:52

I regularly donate to my local food bank, but not only food items, I always include things like toothbrushes, toothpaste, shower gel, sanitary products, baby wipes, washing up liquid, etc, etc.
I know that if my finances were so tight, food would be the most important thing (after bills) to spend any available cash on, and it would be things like toiletries and cleaning products that would have to fall by the wayside.
I've hoarded for over 30yrs, and am currently trying to clear things out, so over the past few weeks I've collected so many toiletries together, that I've just dropped a black bag full of these items off to my local FB, along with another black bag full of basic food items that I've dug out of my kitchen cupboards with a couple of months left on their BB dates, or that I've bought specifically to donate.
I totally agree that there shouldn't be a need for FBs, but whilst there is, those of us who can afford to donate even one item each week when we do our shopping, probably should try to do so, because no-one knows what's around the next corner and whether we might find ourselves needing the generosity of others to help us get by.

MibsXX · 26/06/2024 19:04

ForFirmBiscuit · 24/06/2024 22:35

I don’t need to use a food bank but when I did they gave me tins of soup, a small tin of meat pie, a litre of UHT and a small bag of oats, nothing fresh. I didn’t get much and I was really hungry as there wasn’t enough calories and it was insubstantial. It gave me loads of anxiety to be so hungry. It’s always been like that.
I think food banks should be supplied by the council and given proper budgets for good food, even if they made batches of soup themselves to give out it would be more filling than a tin of soup

I often go hungry and there aren't any food banks near us, if there were I would be oh so grateful for what you describe, some very cheap pasta stirred into that soup would make two filling meals for us per can maybe even three at a push. As others have said the legalities of safety etc with mass producing and storage would make it impossible to run. Please don't be mad at those actually trying to help

pomers · 26/06/2024 19:19

We looked into making food from donations and surplus school meal veg when I worked on the food poverty strategy at my local PH department. However huge issues around who makes it; storage, correct refrigeration, use by dates etc. A nice idea on paper which sadly just doesn’t work in reality

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:39

Frequency · 26/06/2024 07:11

I very much doubt that people who cannot afford food are going out and buying pets or signing up for Netflix. It's far more likely they could afford these things when they got them or have short-term cash flow issues.

When I went to the foodbank it was because I was on a zero-hours contract and a new member of staff fucked up the rota giving 3 or 4 of us zero hours for 2 weeks. When you live paycheck to paycheck there is no buffer to absorb 2 weeks without pay.

Should I have rehomed my 10-year-old abused rescue dog for the sake of two weeks? Or perhaps I could have sold the smartphone I needed for work and left myself unable to go back to work?

That's why zero hour contracts should be banned.
Employers should not get away with making employees take the risk of their bad planning.

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:43

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 26/06/2024 00:25

Sorry to hear that. She had other physical or mental health issues going on or that would not have happened.

There are food banks. And a bag of oats is 90p or whatever, yogurt and milk are still fairly cheap etc, all sorts of items.

Once he retired due to ill health and I helped him get PIP, my uncle used a food bank to supplement the perfectly adequate money he had coming in. I got him an extra six grand a year on top of what he'd earned in his job.

He only really stopped because he didn't like the chickpeas, rice etc and they were building up and taking up space. Or maybe one of his friends told him it's not good to use a food bank when he didn't need to.

That foodbank had to try and get stricter with who they gave out food to, because so many people were doing it. But as they were based in a church they probably carried on in a similar vein.

Plus the very demographic that is most likely to use a food bank, is most prone to obesity.

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I definitely think food banks giving out food without referrals are open to abuse. As someone else said same people turning up every week.

Anonym00se · 26/06/2024 19:47

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:43

I definitely think food banks giving out food without referrals are open to abuse. As someone else said same people turning up every week.

That’s not necessarily abuse. They might have no money for weeks because of a new claim, or sanctions, or they’re off work on SSP for example. Foodbanks will often say that although their emergency packages are for a few days, there are people/families that they have to give long term, ongoing support to.

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 19:50

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:43

I definitely think food banks giving out food without referrals are open to abuse. As someone else said same people turning up every week.

It's already been pointed out, that those turning up every week, have complex issues such as poor mental health.

Many foodbanks are referral only, some place a limit on how many times you can use them. Packages often depend on what's been donated and may not be very much.

I've seen a package from a small independent foodbank, which had a tin of soup, a tin of creamed rice, a tin of peas and a few other items. It would certainly prevent starvation but is not something I'd be desperate to receive if I could afford a decent shop.

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:57

Anonym00se · 26/06/2024 19:47

That’s not necessarily abuse. They might have no money for weeks because of a new claim, or sanctions, or they’re off work on SSP for example. Foodbanks will often say that although their emergency packages are for a few days, there are people/families that they have to give long term, ongoing support to.

Did you read the poster who said her Uncle was using it because it was free food not because he needed too?

Mrsjayy · 26/06/2024 19:58

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:43

I definitely think food banks giving out food without referrals are open to abuse. As someone else said same people turning up every week.

But surely the same people turning up every week Is a good thing because at least they have something to eat a little bit of interaction with another person that isn't in their "circle" and they feel looked after for that 10-15 minutes they are there.

Mrsjayy · 26/06/2024 19:59

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:57

Did you read the poster who said her Uncle was using it because it was free food not because he needed too?

For every" cheeky uncle " there will be 2 who need the food.

Anonym00se · 26/06/2024 20:01

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:57

Did you read the poster who said her Uncle was using it because it was free food not because he needed too?

And as I said earlier, there will always be piss takers but most people are desperate. Would you leave hungry children to starve just so that the odd grabber doesn’t get the chance to take the mick?

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 20:07

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:43

I definitely think food banks giving out food without referrals are open to abuse. As someone else said same people turning up every week.

That's the point of a regular food bank that people turn up every week so you can build community and they can get ongoing support. They only get a small amount of food.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 20:11

Needanewname42 · 26/06/2024 19:57

Did you read the poster who said her Uncle was using it because it was free food not because he needed too?

Honestly, going to a FB is not that much fun. People who have no issues don't tend to go. Food is just one part of a weekly food bank. It's about giving people somewhere to go, someone to chat to, a meal cooked for them, other agencies coming in to provide support.

KTheGrey · 26/06/2024 20:13

MibsXX · 26/06/2024 19:04

I often go hungry and there aren't any food banks near us, if there were I would be oh so grateful for what you describe, some very cheap pasta stirred into that soup would make two filling meals for us per can maybe even three at a push. As others have said the legalities of safety etc with mass producing and storage would make it impossible to run. Please don't be mad at those actually trying to help

Sorry to hear that. Are you in the countryside? I think that living off the beaten track means people are effectively excluded from quite a lot of things.

I hope somebody on here can suggest an alternative.

Kjpt140v · 26/06/2024 20:16

Grateful then

cupcaske123 · 26/06/2024 20:21

MibsXX · 26/06/2024 19:04

I often go hungry and there aren't any food banks near us, if there were I would be oh so grateful for what you describe, some very cheap pasta stirred into that soup would make two filling meals for us per can maybe even three at a push. As others have said the legalities of safety etc with mass producing and storage would make it impossible to run. Please don't be mad at those actually trying to help

Can you speak to the Citizens Advice? There might be a local foodbank that delivers. Is there a local WhatsApp group or Facebook group? If I knew one of my neighbours was often going hungry I'd give them something to eat.

Afternoonteavirgin · 26/06/2024 20:25

@Lopine being a private landlord does not make someone rich. The profits are minimal.

GreyhoundLurcher · 26/06/2024 20:27

you are an ungrateful person