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Kids Playing In Cul De Sac

94 replies

StressieBessie4 · 24/06/2024 18:58

I’m aware I may get slated but this is starting to get to me! I have name changed.

I am a carer, and I have a 7pm appointment daily down a cul de sac which seems to now be mainly families living here and it’s turning into a nightmare.

As you enter two chairs are in the middle of the road with two parents sat on them, and it’s a struggle to get past. Then when you get around the corner the kids leave bikes and scooters over the entrance to the car parking spaces so you can’t get in without many shuffles. But when you’re trying to, the kids are walking behind your car! There is no consideration whatsoever and I’m starting to dread this call.

I feel so sorry for my client, who is lovely, but it’s an accident waiting to happen and . They all look at me like I’ve got three heads when I pull into the road yet they see me every day. What’s worse is the houses back onto a park!

AIBU to tell the parents it’s a road not a playground?!

OP posts:
WindsurfingDreams · 24/06/2024 23:27

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 24/06/2024 23:03

Would you like your neighbours to arbitrarily decide that your access and parking was their children's playground - so you can't use it? Or your workplace?

This is part of the gentleman's property, for which he may well pay extra in mortgage/rent, that he cannot use; as well as being OP's workplace.

OP didn't say if the man is housebound or whether he is able to get out at all; but if the latter, I think it's a pretty safe bet, owing to his age, disability and/or medical circumstances, that he isn't able to walk a long way unaided easily/at all.

Regardless, a daily care visit is essential for him, and these horrible, selfish neighbours are trying to wilfully deprive him of it. I presume that water is an essential for your household? How would you feel if a neighbour decided that they were going to dig themselves an underground enclosed playground for their kids and seal off all the pipes - so you would 'just' need to go out to a bowser every single time you needed water?

Even if OP could easily and willingly park further away and walk in to her client's home and back again (carrying any equipment or supplies that she has to bring), that seriously eats right into her client's (paid-for) visit time. If he has, say, a half-hour visit provided by the council, who deem that he needs half an hour of care per visit, which part of his daily dignity in living his already-challenging life should he just accept that he needs to give up so that his neighbours can take over the whole road for a playground and OP has to spend half of his essential visit walking to and from her car?

Should he be forced to sleep in wee-soaked sheets overnight, because OP just did not have time to change him in the evening and leave him dry, and his neighbours don't know the difference between a garden/pavement/park and a road/parking space?

If you are driving 5mph (which you should be on a street like this) then walking is no slower.

My neighbours do do this. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's how these spaces should be used.

For our children's health and for our planet we need to stop the mentality of driving door to door everywhere

lilybronte · 24/06/2024 23:30

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 24/06/2024 21:36

My grandparents lived on a cul de sac. We played in gardens or the park because roads aren't for playing on

👏🏻

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 25/06/2024 00:08

WindsurfingDreams · 24/06/2024 23:27

If you are driving 5mph (which you should be on a street like this) then walking is no slower.

My neighbours do do this. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's how these spaces should be used.

For our children's health and for our planet we need to stop the mentality of driving door to door everywhere

Edited

This is all assuming that there is a suitable place just off the cul-de-sac - maybe another cul-de-sac where the residents aren't as selfish? What if it's a main road with double yellows down it for miles? Or what if it doesn't have parking restrictions - don't the children who live on that main road have the same right as the cul-de-sac-dwellers to block off the road to cars so that they can play in it?

Unfortunately, fighting against the 'mentality of driving door to door everywhere' very frequently relegates disabled, elderly, frail and otherwise vulnerable people to second-class citizens; and often robs them of their dignity, independence/semi-independence and access to their basic needs.

It's all very lovely saying "Come on, we should all be walking more and getting more exercise" if we ignore the existence of those who simply do not have the privilege of being able to do just that.

LordPercyPercy · 25/06/2024 08:14

For our children's health and for our planet we need to stop the mentality of driving door to door everywhere

So we should give up on using our actual driveways in case some children want to play in the road?

TheIceQween · 25/06/2024 09:28

PaintDiagram · 24/06/2024 23:15

My interpretation..

This is by far the best diagram I’ve seen

eddiemairswife · 25/06/2024 10:16

The children should be playing in their gardens. I live In a cul-de-sac, and the children used to play inside or in the gardens. Roads are for vehicles. There seems to be an attitude among some respondents that the children have a right to play in the road, because they are in the open air.

Fightthepower · 25/06/2024 10:24

They should be playing in the park behind them not the road!
I remember a case from the news that sounds similar. The children played outside on the close, one of the residents reversed out of their driveway very unfortunately not seeing a child lying down playing armies. It ended in fatality and the driver being imprisoned.
Obviously chidlren should be playing outside, but choose a safe, traffic free spot.

Lincoln24 · 25/06/2024 10:26

I hate that car is king these days. I think it's great they've reclaimed the street for fun and recreation. You need to park somewhere else or just be very careful. Yabvu imo.

HeddaGarbled · 25/06/2024 10:26

Roads are for vehicles

I don’t agree with this at all. I think roads, especially near houses and shops, can be shared spaces, and in some cases pedestrians should have priority. I think we should move more towards the European model of safely shared roads rather than the US model of King Car.

Fightthepower · 25/06/2024 10:27

WindsurfingDreams · 24/06/2024 21:43

I think it's lovely they are playing out. We need more of this. Can you park a bit further away?

But OP says they have a park behind the houses, why play in the road then?

lanthanum · 25/06/2024 10:37

I think it's worth having a word with the adults and explaining why you are visiting, and asking whether perhaps they could keep the kids/chairs/bikes out of the way when you are due.

"For our children's health and for our planet we need to stop the mentality of driving door to door everywhere."
I'm all for losing this as a general mentality, but not when it comes to carers who are not given the time to do otherwise. In this case, it sounds like it's not that there isn't a suitable parking space, so there's no reason why the carer should park anywhere else.

MrDobbs · 25/06/2024 10:43

It is possible for kids to play in the road on a quiet cul de sac where there aren't cars using it. It is also possible for those kids/parents to move out of the way on the occasions when a car or van does need to use that shared bit of road.

Reading this thread it seems it's a binary choice between locking children up until they die of obesity so that cars can rule the road or turning the road into an open air soft play.

prescribingmum · 25/06/2024 10:47

Could you not just ask them if they can leave one space for you when they come out to play because you come and care for the gentleman who lives at no … daily? Any reasonable parent would ask their child to facilitate this

TikiTikiBoo · 25/06/2024 10:49

prescribingmum · 25/06/2024 10:47

Could you not just ask them if they can leave one space for you when they come out to play because you come and care for the gentleman who lives at no … daily? Any reasonable parent would ask their child to facilitate this

Many people aren't reasonable nowadays, thy're entitled..

crostini · 25/06/2024 10:49

Bloody hell, let the kids play, it's their home not yours.
Or would you rather they sat inside watching YouTube and getting fat?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/06/2024 10:53

Many people seem to think their home ownership extends to the path/road/all land beyond

They are acting like dicks by sticking chairs in the road. There's just no need. After all it's a cul de sac (as so many posters are desperate to keep reminding you) so if they put their chairs ON THEIR OWN FRONTS they should still see their precious offspring while allowing other residents and visitors to safely and civilly go about their business

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/06/2024 10:56

Maybe you can suggest that take their chairs and kids to the park which sounds like it's a few minimum walk away?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/06/2024 10:59

@PaintDiagram agreed - an excellent diagram. I for one think every thread should have one

Please tell me you have name changed especially for it?!! Grin

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/06/2024 11:01

crostini · 25/06/2024 10:49

Bloody hell, let the kids play, it's their home not yours.
Or would you rather they sat inside watching YouTube and getting fat?

I think there may be a middle ground here? ...

CammyChameleon · 25/06/2024 11:03

Weird idea, but maybe say to one of the parents "I have to come here every day at 7pm for my job. It's nice to see kids playing outside like I used to as a nipper, but I find it quite hard getting around all the chairs and kids and stuff. Do you mind grabbing all the stuff and calling to the kids to get into the side when you see me coming?"

TimPat · 25/06/2024 11:03

Kids can't win really can they. Constantly being slated for being obese/inactive/too much screen time then as soon as there's a bit of nice weather and they play outside there's a rash of threads moaning about noise and what an inconvenience they are.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 25/06/2024 11:05

AhBiscuits · 24/06/2024 19:03

And I'm sure they'll tell you where to go, this is their home.
I live in a cul-de-sac and all the kids play out, it's one of the nice things about it. You know there will be a load of kids so just proceed carefully or park at the end somewhere and walk in.

Thank god I don’t live there.

The road is not a playground ffs. OP is trying to do a job, no doubt on a timescale. The entitlement!!!!!

Bollindger · 25/06/2024 11:08

Sorry we did this...
The parents are protecting their children, they live there.
You visit for 30 mins a night, I bet the children have sent hours out playing, it was normal 25 years ago.
Talk to them about it.
Plus most of the time it rains in the UK...
Bet they are not out then....

Eviebeans · 25/06/2024 11:10

Perhaps the adults sitting on the chairs could walk the children round to the park

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/06/2024 11:10

CammyChameleon · 25/06/2024 11:03

Weird idea, but maybe say to one of the parents "I have to come here every day at 7pm for my job. It's nice to see kids playing outside like I used to as a nipper, but I find it quite hard getting around all the chairs and kids and stuff. Do you mind grabbing all the stuff and calling to the kids to get into the side when you see me coming?"

This is very polite and a good way to just mention to the parents.

In fairness to the OP she hasn't come across as moany at all merely concerned that she isn't able to use a shared space road as intended. It's actually the daft adults and their chairs that are making this worse.