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Delivery drivers and take away orders ruin restaurant meals

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contentlycontent · 24/06/2024 08:27

We don't eat out much, maybe once a month or less. When we do go, tends to be local independent restaurants. However our 4-5 most recent experiences are ruined by the revolving door of delivery drivers collecting takeaways and restaurant staff bending over backwards to meet their demand at the expense of those sitting there.

Yesterday we sat directly opposite the kitchen and watched orders for those eating in sit under hot lamps for upwards of 20 minutes whilst they packed order after order to give to the delivery drivers crowded round the door. We waited more than 15 minutes for a waiter to come to take our order, the food arrived at odd times with items missing and a couple of drinks forgotten entirely. The restaurant was at half capacity at this point.

I find it crazy that if I were to order a take away for the restaurant, it would be at my door in 30 minutes but when I am sitting right there, I spend more than half that time just trying to get their attention to place an order.

AIBU to think that the experience of eating out has ben destroyed as a direct result of the explosion of food delivery services?

OP posts:
ElinoristhenewEnid · 24/06/2024 12:20

woodpecker2 · 24/06/2024 08:47

YANBU we stopped to pick up a fish and chips. Couple of people in the queue thought we’d be home in a few minutes stood there for about half and hour like lemons while they prepared ticket after ticket for deliveroos. Not been back.

Had exactly the same experience last week at my local fish and chip shop - one person in front of me but waited for 20 minutes or so to be served due to delivery drivers.

I then had to wait another 15 minutes while they cooked my order because all the fish had been given to drivers. At least my order was hot and fresh!

HappiestSleeping · 24/06/2024 12:22

Marblessolveeverything · 24/06/2024 08:46

It's their management of the activity rather than the business model. Our local restaurant has pretty much a separate kitchen banging out the deliveries. The drivers come to a different entrance.

The owner invested because profits from the deliveries are outstripping the restaurant. The reality is deliveries are here to stay, our expectation to eat good quality meal at home has expanded and to be fair most of the thriving ones near me are on the more healthy offering.

Having food ready not brought to the table is due to bad staff training and probably under staffing.

This 👆

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:25

NeverEnoughPants · 24/06/2024 11:40

You know their huge profits are just because the businesses are massive? It's a highly competitive market and they work on much lower profit margins than probably any other business - it's the sheer scale of the business that means they make the big profits.

The biggest reason for the recent price increases has been the increase in minimum wage. A supermarket making between 3% & 5% profit can't absorb a 28% wage increase between March 2022 and April 2024 without increasing prices.

The article talks about profit rises and increased dividends paid to shareholders in a cost of living crisis for its customers.

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:27

mumda · 24/06/2024 11:34

It's a sign of the incredible wealth of the country to see how many people have takeaways.
If you're seeing them from the comfort of a restaurant rather than just looking out of the lounge window then good for you.

It this really a stealth boast?

I don't think it's a sign of "incredible wealth" that people can afford a takeaway.

It's not a race to the bottom, much as some people would like it to be.

NeverEnoughPants · 24/06/2024 12:29

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:25

The article talks about profit rises and increased dividends paid to shareholders in a cost of living crisis for its customers.

But that's an inevitable consequence of higher costs.

If you sell the same amount of items at a higher cost (because your costs are higher so you have to) and retain the same low percentage profit margin, your profits will increase and so will the amount available to pay shareholders.

The profit margin is still low.

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:31

It's not an inevitable consequence of higher costs- that would impact on turnover obviously but not necessarily profit.

sheroku · 24/06/2024 12:31

I have the same experience in restaurants round here and I find the obsession with Deliveroo so weird. Unless you're getting a curry, takeaways are so often minging by the time they arrive. Who wants to eat a slightly cold pizza or chips that have gone soggy from the condensation? If I'm going to spend that much money I want it fresh from the kitchen on a proper plate not wrapped up in plastic and bounced around on the back of a bike.

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:36

sheroku · 24/06/2024 12:31

I have the same experience in restaurants round here and I find the obsession with Deliveroo so weird. Unless you're getting a curry, takeaways are so often minging by the time they arrive. Who wants to eat a slightly cold pizza or chips that have gone soggy from the condensation? If I'm going to spend that much money I want it fresh from the kitchen on a proper plate not wrapped up in plastic and bounced around on the back of a bike.

Nonsense, the food is beautifully hot and fresh when it arrives, better than I've had in a lot of restaurants, and much hotter than if I picked it up and drove four miles home. And I do put it on a nice plate after it has arrived, it's much more comfortable than a restaurant because it's my house, and the supermarket wine I'm having with it has not been marked up 200%.

AncientQuercus · 24/06/2024 12:37

We had a similar experience in a McDs we used to go to. 35 mins wait while more and more drivers piled in. We only got the food then because I complained. Haven't been back since.

Buffypaws · 24/06/2024 12:37

Deliveroo arrives cold as well so what we have here is the worst of both worlds

NeverEnoughPants · 24/06/2024 12:39

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:31

It's not an inevitable consequence of higher costs- that would impact on turnover obviously but not necessarily profit.

Thanks for quoting one line, without the explanation - out of context you are quite right

However, with the context (of retaining the same low profit margin percentage) then what I said makes total sense.

voiceofastar · 24/06/2024 12:42

sheroku · 24/06/2024 12:31

I have the same experience in restaurants round here and I find the obsession with Deliveroo so weird. Unless you're getting a curry, takeaways are so often minging by the time they arrive. Who wants to eat a slightly cold pizza or chips that have gone soggy from the condensation? If I'm going to spend that much money I want it fresh from the kitchen on a proper plate not wrapped up in plastic and bounced around on the back of a bike.

I feel the same. I don't get it. The only place I get takeaways from is the Indian restaurant up the road from me so I walk and collect. I tried Deliveroo during lockdown and it was invariably disappointing. The prices of items are also higher, then you have the service charge and delivery on top. Drivers could never find me despite giving them v specific instructions and what.three.words so it was always cold when it finally arrived, often after much back and forth over the phone to the driver. I can't imagine the appeal of a fried breakfast or fish and chips delivery, or the point of ordering a coffee and pastry from Starbucks. Doesn't the coffee spill everywhere anyway? If you're at home then just make one yourself FFS.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 24/06/2024 12:43

I agree, plus all the e-bikes barrelling down the pavement.

grumpypedestrian · 24/06/2024 12:51

I agree it’d be annoying. But from the restaurants perspective, they’re getting more business from deliveries than people eating out less than once a month.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 24/06/2024 12:53

Argharghargharghargh · 24/06/2024 09:01

Waited 40 mins in a Pizza Express for our order recently. The waitress came over to apologise that the delay was because a large Deliveroo order had come in.

locally we have loads of clusters of scooters and bikes outside a run of restaurants. It's intimidating later in the evening to walk through (there has been fighting and cat calling). I also hate that the riders keep their balaclavas and motorcycle helmets inside. Restaurants don't seem to care that all this makes eating out a less than attractive prospect.

As usual total lack of regulation and unmitigated profit generation by these companies and instant gratification being the norm undermines the social contract of acceptable behaviour. (Lol that escalated from a late pizza! But it does make me cross).

Yes! Groups of masked men are intimidating. I don't think people care about what women might think though.

IdealHomeExhibition · 24/06/2024 13:21

LutonBeds · 24/06/2024 11:00

One of my friends did Deliveroo/Uber Eats in Covid. He got an order for a cup of tea from McDonalds to go from Stretford to Sale. I think the drink was 99p and the delivery charge was £6. The mind boggles that people have money to waste like that.

There's someone opposite me who seems to get one coffee delivered all the time it's mad isn't it. I know someone who sees no problem ordering 1 grocrry item then an hour later ordering one more. 🙃

Cas112 · 24/06/2024 13:32

Ive never come across this apart from maybe in a nandos

JenniferBooth · 24/06/2024 13:50

woodpecker2 · 24/06/2024 08:47

YANBU we stopped to pick up a fish and chips. Couple of people in the queue thought we’d be home in a few minutes stood there for about half and hour like lemons while they prepared ticket after ticket for deliveroos. Not been back.

When i was working in retail in 2003 i was told in no uncertain terms that the customer in the actual shop standing in front of me came first and if the phone next to me rang i was to ignore it and deal with the customer ringing later
How times change!

GiantHornets · 24/06/2024 13:52

shearwater2 · 24/06/2024 12:36

Nonsense, the food is beautifully hot and fresh when it arrives, better than I've had in a lot of restaurants, and much hotter than if I picked it up and drove four miles home. And I do put it on a nice plate after it has arrived, it's much more comfortable than a restaurant because it's my house, and the supermarket wine I'm having with it has not been marked up 200%.

I’ve only ordered via deliveroo twice and will never do so again.
Both times the food was cold on arrival. The boxes the riders use are not insulated well enough and are too large, so there is a lot of cold air in there. If I collect my own takeaway, I wrap it in a blanket before packing into a cool bag. That way it is still hot on arriving home.

I’m also amazed by the number of takeaways being ordered during a cost of living crisis, especially as food cooked at home is almost always tastier with higher quality ingredients as well as considerably cheaper

divinededacende · 24/06/2024 14:12

LutonBeds · 24/06/2024 11:00

One of my friends did Deliveroo/Uber Eats in Covid. He got an order for a cup of tea from McDonalds to go from Stretford to Sale. I think the drink was 99p and the delivery charge was £6. The mind boggles that people have money to waste like that.

I mean, I can make some bad financial choices for the sake of convenience (laziness) but that's amazing! I could understand if they were craving some specific drink but I struggle to see how a Maccy D Tea is up there in the must-have category.

Opposum · 24/06/2024 15:00

contentlycontent · 24/06/2024 10:29

I have never said it was the fault of the delivery drivers. Or the restaurant staff serving us for that matter. They are all doing the jobs they are paid to do in order to make a living. As a PP said, it is a case of 'don't hate the player, hate the game'. The result of that game is our rare treat is no longer an enjoyable experience.

I do wonder how so many afford to have every whim delivered as the cost adds up really quickly, especially in a CoL crisis

Your treat hasn't been ruined because of the 'game', i.e the takeaway model. It's been ruined because of bad management. Therefore YABU. It's not about anybody's fault except for the business owner.

Delivery allows restaurants to reach a wider audience , so a large number ordering infrequently still results in a crowd.

IMO one of the biggest issues apart from shitty transport is the cost of drinks. I like alcohol with a nice meal - this has become terribly expensive. Also, one of us has to not drink.

I've used Deliveroo a couple of times and although expensive it's still worth it compared to the cost of drinks and the hassle of going somewhere. I usually pick up myself but having it at home is much better

mydogisthebest · 24/06/2024 15:27

Me and DH have experienced this a few times. In one indian restaurant we waited 40 minutes for our food (there were only 2 other occupied tables) while delivery drivers were in and out constantly.

We haven't really waited ages in any other restaurant but it is very annoying to have the drivers in and out, opening and closing the door (often not closing it!), knocking into your table or chair etc.

Just about everywhere we go to eat now seems to do delivery from fast food places to cafes to proper restaurants.

We have seen staff making up the delivery bags with as little as a sandwich and coffee. What cost of living crisis?

RoobarbAndMustard · 24/06/2024 15:44

I had to do an emergency stop last week because a scooter delivery driver exited right out of a side road into my path and to the left of my car(ie on the wrong side of me). Luckily for him I was paying attention and it's in a 20 zone.

daffodilandtulip · 24/06/2024 15:51

I couldn't even tell you the last time I ate out. I can't bear the thought of spending 50+ quid for cold food eaten next to a queue of food boxes and helmets.

And I'm so so sick of trying to dodge the dangerous mopeds carrying food boxes, that can't seem to see cars on the road.

Gingerkittykat · 24/06/2024 15:53

Take aways also prioritise drive through customers to customers inside.

I used to go to Tim Hortons reasonably frequently for a breakfast meal deal. If you order in the drive through then you get your food instantly but if you order inside it can be a 15-20 minute wait.

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