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To be shocked at the level of obesity of British children?

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MEM00 · 23/06/2024 12:41

Having recently come back from holiday I found myself really shocked by the size of so many other British kids at the resort we were at. It was mostly a mix of British, French and German families and I found it impossible to not notice the difference in the British kids compared to others. DD is 8 and I would say average sized, by no means skinny. She made friends with another girl the same age by the pool, and i'm not joking when i say the other girl must have been twice the size when they were next to each other.

Am i overthinking this? Because it really makes me worry for the future.

This isn't intended by be 'fat shaming' in any way btw.

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Leah5678 · 24/06/2024 21:23

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:19

It has been used in the UK for a long time.

I'm sure it has, doesn't have to be a short time for people to take American stuff and apply it to the UK like they're the same country.

Of course there are people who live a bit far from a grocery store and can't drive. But it's no where close to American food desert scale and like other poster said it isn't a significant factor for obesity of British children

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:25

TheKeatingFive · 24/06/2024 21:16

See my post above. And everyone else's

And everyone else's? Nope - others are aware of these issues. You've just never seen it yourself.

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 21:27

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:18

It doesn't have to be for the vast majority. People are still important if they're not in the 'vast majority.' I've worked with people in these situations and I wouldn't have believed it before then either.

You're right that there will be some people that this affects, but not enough for this to be part of a significant contributory factor in why obesity and child obesity has soared

And just as an aside, we are using overweight and obese interchangeably in this thread, people who are overweight have increased in the UK too

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:27

JacquesHarlow · 24/06/2024 21:22

This is actually incredible to me

The mental gymnastics people go through in order to justify not buying fruit or eating healthily

I have lived as a student in one of the poorest parts of a major city. And a 15 min bus ride away was a Tesco superstore . A BUS RIDE

in poorer parts of the world they walk for miles to get food. We sit here and if it’s not perfect, on our doorstep, and cheaper than chips (literally!!) then we won’t do it

Forget all the lame, tired, “rich people eat healthier” crap I hear on here.

forget all the “if only I had a personal trainer and chef” bollocks

people make their choices - wish folk would just own them

You lived a 15 minute journey from Tesco (A BUS RIDE!!) and you think you're hard done by...and you also only only had to get food for one person 🙄

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 21:30

When I was growing up my mum didnt drive, we were smack bang in the middle of two main areas (South London) so it was about a half hour walk in either direction to the shops. She dragged us kids on foot, she didnt drive, to the shops, used a shopping trolley. Carried shopping back

I dont think people put themselves out nowadays like that. I rarely see shopping trollies but you see them abroad a lot used by all ages.

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:31

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 21:30

When I was growing up my mum didnt drive, we were smack bang in the middle of two main areas (South London) so it was about a half hour walk in either direction to the shops. She dragged us kids on foot, she didnt drive, to the shops, used a shopping trolley. Carried shopping back

I dont think people put themselves out nowadays like that. I rarely see shopping trollies but you see them abroad a lot used by all ages.

See them all the time round here.

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:32

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 21:27

You're right that there will be some people that this affects, but not enough for this to be part of a significant contributory factor in why obesity and child obesity has soared

And just as an aside, we are using overweight and obese interchangeably in this thread, people who are overweight have increased in the UK too

That wasn't the question I was answering, though.

coupdetonnerre · 24/06/2024 21:32

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Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:33

They sell a wide range of designs now as so many use them not just elderly people.

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2024 21:34

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:12

It may be worth it but if you don't have enough money for it and the minimum spend then you're out of luck.

Yes another example of excuses. Min online delivery spend is £40. Supersaver delivery charge is £1.

There are very few people who don't have any supermarkets within reachable distance and can't make £40 shops once in a few weeks to stock up on healthy food to cook. If not fresh fruits/veg then at least frozen. Exceptions shouldn't be used for justification of a concerning trend.

coupdetonnerre · 24/06/2024 21:34

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betterangels · 24/06/2024 21:45

I'm not in the UK, but I've noticed that people seem to be eating and snacking when out and about much more than used to be the case. Fizzy drinks too. I think a lot of it is boredom.

On the bus, train, in the theatre, and the cinema. Waiting for the bus. Someone brought a whole pizza on the train. It just didn't used to be like that.

Perhaps it's the same development in the UK?

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 21:48

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 21:27

You lived a 15 minute journey from Tesco (A BUS RIDE!!) and you think you're hard done by...and you also only only had to get food for one person 🙄

This location issue is a non issue when it comes to the countries obesity crisis.
Obesity numbers in cities is huge.
I wouldn’t expect people living so remotely to be obese anyway with all those beautiful remote walks to enjoy. They must be super fit.

VirtualRealitee · 24/06/2024 21:49

DoNotScrapeMyDataBishes · 24/06/2024 20:45

Not necessarily - I'm very overweight, as is DH - but the kids are totally normal/lower end of normal weight (DD2 at the moment is probably slightly underweight if you're really looking).

We've made all the efforts we can to make sure the kids haven't grown up into our mistakes - and they're blessed with their father's height as well so they're all long legs and incredibly tall. We might run ourselves ragged to make sure that they've got a better background than we did in terms of diet and exercise - but so far it's working out for them.

How old are they?

Custardcream84 · 24/06/2024 21:51

Doodar · 23/06/2024 13:46

Poverty and education. Poor kids are fatter, lots from immigrant families, high sugar and carb diets.
Look at the trolleys when fat families go shopping, eyeopening.

What are you talking about from immigrant families? Most other cultures have healthy cheap food they cook that is far healthier than much of British and Western cuisine and they often cook from scratch with fresh ingredients. It’s only when they adopt western food cultures that they became obese and have similar issues. This is not something that you can blame on immigrants - this is firmly a home grown problem.

camelfinger · 24/06/2024 21:52

There are points well made about affordability of providing healthy food. But you see lots of overweight children in environments that wouldn’t suggest poverty, e.g expensive theme parks, water parks, football matches. I think it’s seen as something that they’ll grow out of. And it is socially acceptable.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 21:56

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 19:56

Ive never even had an Arctic Roll because they were too expensive and by the time I grew up they werent a thing.

I shouldn’t tell you this especially given the subject of this thread 🤣🤪 but you can buy them now.

DiddyHeck · 24/06/2024 21:57

Custardcream84 · 24/06/2024 21:51

What are you talking about from immigrant families? Most other cultures have healthy cheap food they cook that is far healthier than much of British and Western cuisine and they often cook from scratch with fresh ingredients. It’s only when they adopt western food cultures that they became obese and have similar issues. This is not something that you can blame on immigrants - this is firmly a home grown problem.

It depends on the culture though doesn't it?

India for example is ranked in the global top 3 for obesity and I'm not sure how much British and western food cultures affect them really.

Having said that, I've no idea why the PP brought up immigrants because I'm sure they don't particularly affect British obesity statistics??

TrustPenguins · 24/06/2024 21:59

Everyone should read Ultra Processed People by Chris van Tulleken.
His point about 'it's not you, it's the food' explains a lot.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 22:00

TheKeatingFive · 24/06/2024 20:18

The link doesn't seem to be live anymore

Yep I can’t open it either @Riversideandrelax

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 22:03

nearlylovemyusername · 24/06/2024 21:34

Yes another example of excuses. Min online delivery spend is £40. Supersaver delivery charge is £1.

There are very few people who don't have any supermarkets within reachable distance and can't make £40 shops once in a few weeks to stock up on healthy food to cook. If not fresh fruits/veg then at least frozen. Exceptions shouldn't be used for justification of a concerning trend.

Look, I get it, it's hard to understand. But if you've got a tenner to get some food, £40 minimum and £1'delivery is still out of your price range. And I've made no justification for a worrying trend!!

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 22:05

TheKeatingFive · 24/06/2024 21:19

This is not a significant factor behind the obesity of British children

I never said it was.

TheKeatingFive · 24/06/2024 22:05

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 24/06/2024 21:56

I shouldn’t tell you this especially given the subject of this thread 🤣🤪 but you can buy them now.

We got one not long ago as a hilarious walk down memory lane / to impress the kids.

It was totally underwhelming 😂

BagOfBollocks · 24/06/2024 22:05

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 22:03

Look, I get it, it's hard to understand. But if you've got a tenner to get some food, £40 minimum and £1'delivery is still out of your price range. And I've made no justification for a worrying trend!!

No-one's making their family fat if they're spending £10 a week on food shopping...

Riversideandrelax · 24/06/2024 22:06

soupfiend · 24/06/2024 20:34

Well I suppose being pedantic I would really want to see the actual numbers

And yes there are going to be some places where a combination of lack of public transport and a supermarket being far away makes it difficult for someone to buy fresh fruit and veg, so perhaps only a corner shop available, but I would hazard that isnt the majority of the population.

I work and live in a very deprived area, we have 3 aldis, a lidl, a morrisons, an asda, a sainsburys, a tescos, then a myriad of tesco extras, budgens/spar/coops, 2 icelands, home bargains, poundland, pound stretchers

All of these sell foods that are able to be bought on a budget

What exactly do they sell in Poundland that's not going to contribute to obesity?

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