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To be shocked at the level of obesity of British children?

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MEM00 · 23/06/2024 12:41

Having recently come back from holiday I found myself really shocked by the size of so many other British kids at the resort we were at. It was mostly a mix of British, French and German families and I found it impossible to not notice the difference in the British kids compared to others. DD is 8 and I would say average sized, by no means skinny. She made friends with another girl the same age by the pool, and i'm not joking when i say the other girl must have been twice the size when they were next to each other.

Am i overthinking this? Because it really makes me worry for the future.

This isn't intended by be 'fat shaming' in any way btw.

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Thomasina79 · 23/06/2024 15:18

Roundeartheratchriatmas · 23/06/2024 12:56

The UK has a lot of obese adults. Sadly that’s is being passed on to their children.

It’s so common it’s now seen as “normal”.

You see it in supermarkets - mum/dad obese and their child with them well in the way to it. Often a look in the trolley will hint at why.

There are a lot of socioeconomic factors that affect this - a lot of them - eg lack of education or time and the end result is an unhealthy diet with a lot of processed food, sugary drinks and too much of it.

I see people buying mega packs of crisps, large bottles of coke and chocolate. This must be expensive . Buying fruit instead is probably cheaper and nicer. But children are manipulated by advertisers to want this junk food. Also why do so many manufacturers add so much salt to food? This in intself should be outlawed. Why not offer nutrition education in schools too?

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 23/06/2024 15:21

This thread reminds me of when Jamie Oliver tried to introduce healthy school meals and parents were outside the school gates stuffing chips through the railings.

Riversideandrelax · 23/06/2024 15:21

Noonelikesasloppytrifle · 23/06/2024 15:10

It is and I say that as a parent with four healthy weight DC. Nutrition is very important to me but it is very hard when you are busy to eat healthily. You can't run into any local convenience store/supermarket and buy something that is healthy and not processed very easily - it all needs to be created.

I've also realised recently that the quality of our cheap food (ie. Meat, fruit and veg etc) makes them utterly tasteless. Cheap red peppers and carrots for instance are bland and dull whereas if you buy local, organic produce it is so much more flavoursome and therefore more appetising to the DC. So while you can buy cheap fruit and veg, it's not particularly nice and when the ultra processed, highly flavoured food is so cheap and prevalent then that is certainly their go to when left to their own devices.

I find supermarket fruit and veg very bland. But from the green grocer it is really nice and also cheaper!

The greengrocer fruit tends to be deliciously ripe when you buy it. Supermarket fruit is often not ripe and often never seems to get fully ripe even after several days.

DaemonMoon · 23/06/2024 15:21

Itsprobablynotcominhome · 23/06/2024 12:45

Why do you care? Look after your own kid, stop judging everyone else's.

Because it's yet another sign of over consumption, and bundle that with everything else humans do to excess, it is killing the planet.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 23/06/2024 15:23

DaemonMoon · 23/06/2024 15:21

Because it's yet another sign of over consumption, and bundle that with everything else humans do to excess, it is killing the planet.

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@Itsprobablynotcominhome
people care not least because it affects everyone with obesity costs to the nhs rising.

AllTheChaos · 23/06/2024 15:23

muddyford · 23/06/2024 14:48

Growing up in the 1960s/70s we got used to walking then cycling everywhere, especially school. The car was for weekends, visiting grandparents. My siblings and I still walk everywhere we can, now well into our seventh decade.

There was one warm room, we had hot water bottles and loads of blankets at bedtime. I was never cold in bed. Then waking to the beautiful fern patterns of ice on the inside of the windows, from breath condensing on the cold glass, and thawing a spot to see out, with the tip of a finger.

Dad and I would go for a walk after supper and the house would feel so warm after the cold outside. My parents didn't get central heating and double glazing till I went to university.

None of us were ever fat. I only remember two plump people from school years.

And we weren't well off but everything was cooked from scratch. We ate masses of vegetables. Crisps perhaps once a month, one boiled sweet after lunch each day. Chocolate rarely and usually at my grandmother's house. Homemade cake every teatime, proper pudding every day (pies, crumbles, milk puddings, custard)

Competitive sport at school two afternoons a week.

Same here. I’m doing the same with my child, and she is like a rake.

Bignanna · 23/06/2024 15:24

Itsprobablynotcominhome · 23/06/2024 12:45

Why do you care? Look after your own kid, stop judging everyone else's.

It’s a discussion forum, opinions are allowed! Has it touched a nerve, perhaps?

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 23/06/2024 15:24

Parents buy shit food, kids eat it and will continue to eat it and have kids of their own and the cycle begins again ( in a lot of cases). How any parent can watch their child become fat and do nothing about it is complete and utter child abuse. (medical cases apart).
These parents will also deny, deflect and make every excuse under the sun as to why their child is overweight other than the contents of their shopping trolley and the takeaways on speed dial.
Shameful parenting.

Riversideandrelax · 23/06/2024 15:25

Thomasina79 · 23/06/2024 15:18

I see people buying mega packs of crisps, large bottles of coke and chocolate. This must be expensive . Buying fruit instead is probably cheaper and nicer. But children are manipulated by advertisers to want this junk food. Also why do so many manufacturers add so much salt to food? This in intself should be outlawed. Why not offer nutrition education in schools too?

I think people are duped into buying these multi packs as they are much cheaper than buying individual items. It makes them seem like a bargain.

Bewareofthisonetoo · 23/06/2024 15:25

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 23/06/2024 14:17

Too much time being sedentary, not enough exercise, PE in schools being cut etc.

Weight is almost entirely about diet.

This -total fallacy about school PE -just another bandwagon to jump on.
Kids used to do more exercise, but while they were out on their bikes etc they weren’t mindlessly snacking. I came from a working class area where people just didn’t snack between meals /they were busy doing other things. My parents lived from paypacket to paypacket weekly and were what would now be considered poor, but no-one was overweight and even then people understood that cake/biscuits/fizzy drinks were fattening -but we hardly ever had them. No excuse at all for people now not to know that /but it is sheer laziness and delegating parenting to school.

MissyB1 · 23/06/2024 15:25

On the subject of private schools/social class/weight. I've been invigilating GCSEs and A levels in a private school. One exam I had 92 pupils in the sports hall, only one pupil was overweight, literally just one. And she was really not very fat just a bit bigger than the other kids. The weight divide is very noticeable.

LadyKenya · 23/06/2024 15:25

Lentilweaver · 23/06/2024 14:41

I remember how as an Asian child, in a school with not many Asian children. the other kids used to laugh at the lunchboxes my mum sent in with me, full of "smelly" Asian food rather than white bread or chips.
My health vistitor thought I was borderline abusive for bringing my kids up veggie and weaning them on vegetables and lentils.
The doctor thought my kids were underweight; they weren't, just Asian build so small built.

I am having the last laugh now they are adults, and very slim. Not that they don't eat junk- they do- but not often.

I used to take in my left over dinner for lunch the next day, to work, and had to endure comments from people about the food. I found it annoying in the end, and stopped taking in food to be warmed up, in the microwave. I doubt I would have had any comments if my lunch had consisted of sausage rolls, and chips. I almost felt embarrassed for having my own food at work, because of the attention it received. And yes, I was mindful of not bringing in "smelly" foods.

whyhavetheygotsomany · 23/06/2024 15:28

Why does it make you worry for the future. As long as you and yours arnt overweight why should it bother you ? You can't change other people so not worth even worrying about

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 23/06/2024 15:29

AllTheChaos · 23/06/2024 15:23

Same here. I’m doing the same with my child, and she is like a rake.

We were the same. We didn’t actually have a car though…..couldn’t afford it.

My mum cooked everything from scratch and we rarely had biscuits, never crisps. I don’t either and my kids have never been overweight. My mums sister however had the house full of cakes, crisps biscuits. Her children grew up overweight just as she was and now her daughter fills the cupboards with the same crap, doesn’t cook from scratch it’s all ready meals and all her children are very overweight.

Both mums brought up the same made different choices and passed it down the generations. There was and is now no difference in family income, just attitude.

ALunchbox · 23/06/2024 15:30

I often spend time in France and Belgium and have noticed more children with weight issues over there. All anecdotal but it does seem on the rise there. I generally find that Britain is 20 odd years ahead of the rest of Western Europe, so they may be heading our way with regards to obesity rates.

Riversideandrelax · 23/06/2024 15:30

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 23/06/2024 15:21

This thread reminds me of when Jamie Oliver tried to introduce healthy school meals and parents were outside the school gates stuffing chips through the railings.

Yes, that whole thing went nowhere, didn't it?

I remember how unhealthy our school lunches at secondary were in the 90s. Chips, burgers, hotdogs, pizza, cakes, fizzy drinks. But there were some nice freshly made rolls and baguettes (much more expensive than the junk, though!) and some of the food was made freshly. Now there's an even bigger range of junk food.and none of the food is made fresh. You can't get something as simple as a cheese and salad sandwich. They do have some sandwiches but the very cheap packaged ones.

Beachballplayer · 23/06/2024 15:30

Look at the amount of obese adults, monkey see monkey do. Apart from if there is reasons such as illness and medication.

Zebedee999 · 23/06/2024 15:32

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 23/06/2024 15:21

This thread reminds me of when Jamie Oliver tried to introduce healthy school meals and parents were outside the school gates stuffing chips through the railings.

Yes and a Tory MP got hounded for suggesting budgeting and cookery should be taught to those using food banks (as he was doing the same at his food bank with positive results).
The obesity epidemic is one of the issues causing NHS problems but people want to bury their heads in the sand rather than take advice.

equuscaballus · 23/06/2024 15:32

At 10 my child isn't overweight. The children in his class are have gone from zero obese in reception to about 50% in year 6.

We don't get much exercise.

I think the key things we do as a family is;

  1. avoid processed food (but it creeps in 1-3 meals a week)
2.We don't snack between meals - if on rare occasions my child is hungry between meals he gets directed to the fruit bowl
Riversideandrelax · 23/06/2024 15:34

LadyKenya · 23/06/2024 15:25

I used to take in my left over dinner for lunch the next day, to work, and had to endure comments from people about the food. I found it annoying in the end, and stopped taking in food to be warmed up, in the microwave. I doubt I would have had any comments if my lunch had consisted of sausage rolls, and chips. I almost felt embarrassed for having my own food at work, because of the attention it received. And yes, I was mindful of not bringing in "smelly" foods.

That is sad. How long ago was this?

AllTheChaos · 23/06/2024 15:36

JumpstartMondays · 23/06/2024 15:17

And look in lunch boxes at schools. I work in a Primary school and do glance in lunch boxes when I'm on lunch duty. This week one child had cold chicken nuggets and ketchup in their lunch box (from KFC I guessed as kid said they were spicy nugs) and a full sized Wispa chocolate bar. That was lunch. For a 5 year old. Apparently this is pretty much every day! And yes, the 5yo is hugely obese!

Jesus. Thats actually horrific.

Noonelikesasloppytrifle · 23/06/2024 15:38

whyhavetheygotsomany · 23/06/2024 15:28

Why does it make you worry for the future. As long as you and yours arnt overweight why should it bother you ? You can't change other people so not worth even worrying about

Because our NHS is groaning under the weight of obesity related conditions as it is. Because being overweight is associated with a multitude of comorbidities which reduces productivity and further increases pressure on society.

Catnipcupcakes · 23/06/2024 15:38

Riversideandrelax · 23/06/2024 13:52

Tiny? The portions are massive! I get for 2 and feed 3 and we have generous portions with that. Could definitely feed 4 with some of them. Sometimes I do put aside some for my lunch tomorrow.

I was waiting for this post.

greencartbluecart · 23/06/2024 15:38

Exactly @Noonelikesasloppytrifle

greencartbluecart · 23/06/2024 15:39

Although I disagree with your name -