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To think it’s inexcusable that the Tories haven’t held landlords to account more

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P3trolBlu3 · 22/06/2024 16:28

Just picked up my son from uni. The house he is living in and paid £££££ is awful. It’s all we could afford.

Its cold in the winter, damp and riddled with black mold. The agency and landlord refused to do anything. The boiler kept breaking so they had no hot water, heating and they’ve been without a working washing machine for week.

All together the 3 of them will have paid £17k for the year. It’s such an absolute rip off and in 2024 ludicrous that as a country we can’t protect renters from this.

Why has nothing been done about it?I’m very aware my son is privileged and going home to a mold free, warm house with hot water and a washing machine but families are being left to live permanently in housing like this.

They’ve had 14 years!

OP posts:
Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 22/06/2024 16:29

Did you notify the council and Enviromental Health?

Sdpbody · 22/06/2024 16:31

Did they put the heating on? Did they open windows for ventilation? Did they clean consistently and effectively?

This is why many houses are mouldy.

impossiblesituations · 22/06/2024 16:31

Did the tenants report it? Lots is in place now to ensure renters are living in safe and healthy properties.

There won't be many landlords and private rented properties left soon anyhow. So that should be a relief to you.

TinyYellow · 22/06/2024 16:32

Isn’t this more of a local council issue cause environmental health should deal with it? Legislation already exists to deal with landlords who don’t maintain their properties.

FuckTheClubUp · 22/06/2024 16:32

I know this is going to sound silly but I really wish there was some sort of OFSTED for private rental properties. Something that checked in with LL’s and made sure they’re following the law. I used to assume that EA are the closest thing to making sure the law is followed but even they don’t give a fuck

impossiblesituations · 22/06/2024 16:33

And yes, as pointed out the previous poster, we live in a damp wet country and the vast majority of mould and condensation is caused by inadequate ventilation and inadequate heating.

MateyMusings · 22/06/2024 16:35

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Parsley1234 · 22/06/2024 16:36

God I wish there was a register of shit tenants
9 months in no rent paid atall
£3k to evict
cuts both ways but yes they’ll be no private landlords soon so you’ll don will have no rental choice atall

P3trolBlu3 · 22/06/2024 16:36

impossiblesituations · 22/06/2024 16:31

Did the tenants report it? Lots is in place now to ensure renters are living in safe and healthy properties.

There won't be many landlords and private rented properties left soon anyhow. So that should be a relief to you.

I think that would be preferable. Surely more cheaper housing stock out Bof the rental system would bring house prices down.

And yes yes to some kind of Ofsted scheme. All rentals having to meet a basic standards surely is a basic necessity.

OP posts:
hattie43 · 22/06/2024 16:37

The landlord could get all the damp / mould done and then no doubt the rent would be higher and you've said as is is all you can afford .

ThursdayTomorrow · 22/06/2024 16:55

Surely having fewer landlords left is a good thing. There will still be the same number of houses, it’s just they will be more affordable and more will be owner occupied.
I like the increasing trend for private, purpose built student accommodation blocks for second and third year students OP. We are doing the university open days at the moment and it seems lots of students are staying in private halls for second d and third years. This means more appropriate accommodation for students and more homes for families in residential areas.

impossiblesituations · 22/06/2024 16:58

@P3trolBlu3 So your son would have bought a house whilst at uni then if it was cheaper? Ok then.

As others will agree...There will be no rental properties left soon. Landlords don't need tenants. They can sell and invest their money elsewhere.

And as previous poster pointed out. So many tenants are shit. So so shit.

ThingsWillOnlyGetBetter · 22/06/2024 16:59

hattie43 · 22/06/2024 16:37

The landlord could get all the damp / mould done and then no doubt the rent would be higher and you've said as is is all you can afford .

Jesus, that’s a low bar.

A decent, damp proof house should not come at a premium. It’s a basic human right.

PorkPieandPickle · 22/06/2024 17:03

There is a lot of really robust legislation in place to regulate the private rented sector - licensing and HHSRS as a start. The regulator is the local authority: underfunding and job cuts means they literally don’t have enough people to enforce it. Underfunding of local authorities has got worse and worse under the tories.

CassandraWebb · 22/06/2024 17:04

In our university town the university had a list of approved landlords and this helped keep them in check. I don't know if yours had similar?

That said, I don't disagree. I remember a colleague whose dad had become a multimillionaire through his investment properties complaining how unfair it was that her dad was being made to sort out a rat infestation in the long terrace of properties he owned and that really the tenants should just put up with it or sort it themselves. So there are some vile landlords out there.

I would like to see proper investment in decent social housing and much more vigorous punishments for landlords who don't keep properties up to standard.

CassandraWebb · 22/06/2024 17:05

hattie43 · 22/06/2024 16:37

The landlord could get all the damp / mould done and then no doubt the rent would be higher and you've said as is is all you can afford .

Good god what an attitude. The landlord shouldn't be letting the property if it is uninhabitable and it is sheer greed to take rent from people it the property is in that state

Genevieva · 22/06/2024 17:05

This isn’t a central government issue. The legislation exists to protect tenants from poorly insulated and unsanitary housing. Use it.

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:09

I sometime wonder why damp is more prevalent in tenanted properties…

Againname · 22/06/2024 17:13

Surely having fewer landlords left is a good thing. There will still be the same number of houses, it’s just they will be more affordable and more will be owner occupied.

Actually, unless there's more social housing, fewer private landlords would be a bad thing. Loads of people still won't be able to afford to buy even with cheaper house prices.

Also it would be the small landlords selling up. Large ones, with multiple properties, would swoop in and buy the homes up and then things would be even worse than they already are.

The issue really isn't landlords as much as governments both Tory and Labour failing to provide more social housing.

That's what's really needed. More social housing.
Bad landlords (which isn't every landlord) wouldn't get away with it if people on lower incomes had decent affordable alternative of social housing.

Also more social housing would help the economy because it would significantly reduce the welfare benefits bill (a lot goes on expensive private rents) and save the NHS lots of money (insecure, unaffordable, or substandard housing affects health).

Againname · 22/06/2024 17:17

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:09

I sometime wonder why damp is more prevalent in tenanted properties…

I don't know if it is (although I understand some landlords don't get rid of it and instead just paint over to disguise it when doing viewings).

Friends recently bought a new house. From another owner occupier. It has a serious damp and other problems (it was below market price due to the issues so they understood what they were getting into).

FacingTheWall · 22/06/2024 17:22

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:09

I sometime wonder why damp is more prevalent in tenanted properties…

Landlords are less likely to maintain their properties properly, fixing leaky guttering etc, so more moisture coming into the house. Also they often have more people living in them generating more moisture. And people renting can’t always afford to heat a property effectively, especially when they have no control over the insulation or the effectiveness of the heating provided.

JuneShowers24 · 22/06/2024 17:23

The problem is the more regulation and expense (via higher tax and no tax allowances) you introduce the more landlords that ARE compliant and do want to provide quality housing chose to invest their money elsewhere.

We had 5 rentals, 5 sets of lovely tenants. But ultimately we sold them as the profit just wasn’t there and they became a liability rather than a steady income.

Shit landlords will always be shit landlords.

JuneShowers24 · 22/06/2024 17:24

FuckTheClubUp · 22/06/2024 16:32

I know this is going to sound silly but I really wish there was some sort of OFSTED for private rental properties. Something that checked in with LL’s and made sure they’re following the law. I used to assume that EA are the closest thing to making sure the law is followed but even they don’t give a fuck

There are rules and regulations and the local council have powers to enforce them.

Landlord responsibilitiesYou’re a landlord if you rent out your property. As a landlord you must:

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 22/06/2024 17:26

Yabu to expect the Tories to have done anything about it.
Their fundamental purpose is to allow the rich to make as much money as possible and then pay no tax on it. Any kind of market regulation is against their deepest principals.
This is why I am always baffled as to why almost ANYONE would ever vote for them.

UKreturnee · 22/06/2024 17:27

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:09

I sometime wonder why damp is more prevalent in tenanted properties…

Because landlords have no interest in putingthe money to fix it. They use cheap/bog standard paint in bathrooms, etc so it looks fine for viewings, and then when tenants complain about issues like damp they just shrug and say it's standard for properties like that. If you're a homeowner you can choose to look into options to sort the problem out long-term, but tenants can't do that. They know that if you complain too much they don't have to renew the ridiculously short 12 month tenancy, and can get in more people very easily because people are fighting over properties. The housing situation in this country (and many countries) is utterly broken.