To think men don’t do house chores ‘well’ because

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its bloody boring, not because they aren’t as ‘capable’ as women??

Out with a load of female friends, ‘mum’ friends and the conversation turned to how useless one partner in particular is with the kids, around house, organising stuff. He always ‘forgets’ things like what time school finishes for kids pick up, has to be reminded etc

A couple of other chipped in with how their DH doesn’t pull his weight. And now their sons are following the same path… a ‘male’ thing apparently…

I call bullshit! If there was a way I could get out of laundry, school admin, housework etc I would probably too… because it can be flipping tedious!

disclaimer - I married a woman so house stuff, car stuff etc with us is 50-50. There’s no gender spilt in certain tasks. And our 14 year old son keeps his room tidy, helps with housework and can do laundry because we make him!

YANBU - of course men are capable of being organised with domestic stuff. ‘Blue’ jobs and ‘pink’ jobs don’t exist.

YABU - no, they’re wired differently and shouldn’t be expected to remember when kids have homework due in or that beds don’t change themselves…

I think men and women are conditioned by society to act this way. Personally I'm one of those women who doesn't give a damn about cleaning and it really frustrates me watching loads of other brilliant women put up with this crap. How many of us would bother to clean if there was absolutely zero expectation that we would and absolutely zero consequences of we didn't?

Men vary. My DP is a fantastic cook & a brilliant baker. Probably too good for my waistline to handle, if I’m honest. I just can’t get enough of some of the yummy things he makes. His focaccia is just the best thing ever.

I find cleaning and having a clean house therapeutic. So I do it regardless. I actually don’t ever have anyone round to my house, my dh doesn’t give a shit about cleaning etc so there’s no expectation there, I don’t work and I just like keeping my living spaces how I consider to be clean etc. I grew up in a cluttered, dirty home so there was no expectation there either - but perhaps it’s made me enjoy having a home that isn’t like that.

I (man) have lived in a few nations and it varies even in western Europe.
When I moved to Denmark, where you would believe men do more housework, it did not seem to be the case. And it does seem that Danish women will often say they and their British husbands share the load and British women will often say their lazy husbands are lazy and useless round the house. It seems perception is just very different. I was seen as lazy and certainly unable to cook by partners in the UK and completely the opposite in Scandinavia.

Belgium was also very different. On a date with a woman, and the second time she was round my house, I knocked up a quick meal and tidied as we went: something that would be routine in the UK but quickly had her gossiping to her freinds about, as was the "revelation" that I kept the place clean by myself. It seemed in that group it was normal for both to work and the women to be responsible for the housework and the man being nice enough to help. I am Gen X and this was like something from a Boomer time.

I have been out of the UK and things seem to be more like Scandinavia there now than when I left, certainly with comments such as @StripedPiggy

Nonsense