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Friend taking back cheating ex, I am contemplating ending our friendship

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ProudRobin · 16/06/2024 09:48

I have a friend I will call Sarah who I have know for 5 years. 3 years ago she left her husband for a man at work (I will call Sam) Sam is from a strict religious background, different to Sarah's, and is also a fair bit younger. None of her friends and family were happy about them getting together, for various reasons which would be too outing to state.
In the 3 years they have been together, things have been up and down. Sam will only see Sarah a couple of times a month, she is a secret from his friends and family, she doesn't even know where he lives. He doesn't treat her well, turns up hours late, has never stayed over at her house, doesn't take her anywhere nice.....but despite all this she is deeply in love with him and she puts up with snippets of his attention, just to stay in his life.
Last year Sam suddenly blocked Sarah out of the blue. She was devastated. He sent her a message after a few days saying he was stressed and to not contact him. This came as a massive shock as he had never mentioned this and she had met up with him a few days before, everything was fine. About 3 weeks later he unblocked her and they spoke, he said he was feeling better and could they get back together. She jumped at the chance.
A few weeks ago Sam confessed to Sarah that during the period he blocked her last year, he had infact got engaged to another girl and was going to marry her via an arranged marriage! He said he briefly moved in with the girl and they had sex, but the girl found messages from Sarah on his phone, so the engagement ended.
Sarah is obviously distraught and I have been there throughout, listening to her thoughts and trying to help her look to the future and forget about Sam. She has also confessed she was never happy with the lack of time they spent together and the lies,/ feeling 2nd best to his family/ religion and that Sam didn't treat her well . She was like his dirty secret.
I do not feel he has told her the full truth around the engagement. I believe he is married and the engagement was not called off, however none of us will ever know as we know virtually nothing about him. The name he uses isn't even his actual name we have found out recently.
My issue is that I would consider Sarah a good friend but not one of my best friends. I have met her this week and she told me she contacted Sam and basically begged him back. This is after she told me she hates him and realises she can do so much better, and that she could never see a long term future with him. Sam said he didn't want to get back together.
She accepted he will marry someone in his community, and she could not be part of his actual life, just his bit on the side.
After all the ups and downs, and this latest drama, I don't think I can support Sarah anymore if she goes back to Sam. I fully believe they will get back together, obviously on Sam's terms, as by begging him back, Sarah has given him the green light to do whatever he wants.
And I want to make it clear, Sarah's relationship with her husband was not abusive, she gradually fell out of love with him and then met Sam. She is also a strong woman with a good job and supportive family. She is not short of male attention when we go out. She could do so much better. I know your heart can rule your head, and even though I didn't think the relationship was any good for Sarah, I accepted it as it's her decision. But after he has now confessed to cheating and getting engaged, I cannot understand why she would want him back. He will obviously do it again and he will never marry Sarah (he has said in the past he would, but later confessed this could never happen).
My question is, when they inevitably get back together, do I finish the friendship, as I don't think I can go through all the drama again, plus I'm seeing Sarah in a whole new light of doormatness. She agrees with what I say then does the complete opposite.

Ainbu to finish the friendship if/when they get back together ,or aibu to finish the friendship, and I should stick around no matter what and support Sarah?

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dottiedodah · 16/06/2024 10:05

It certainly seems as though she is making a big mistake doesnt it? Trouble is she doesnt see a problem ,(none as blind as those who wont see and all that)I certainly would be stepping back a little ,however if you dont see her at all she may feel even stronger about Sam .Maybe say that you like her and dont want to see her hurt, however its difficult to stand by in this situation. Dont call her and just be casual if she phones.I certainly dont think anyone would blame you,she sounds hard work!

Catza · 16/06/2024 12:19

I honestly can't see what does it have to do with you. If you like hanging out with Sarah, then her relationship status is irrelevant. If you don't want her to bring it up, then say it and, surely, this should be the end of that.
My friend has been married to a gambler and a complete deadbeat man for 20 years. She is still my friend. We very rarely discuss her husband and I can't say I care a whole lot about their personal reasons for staying together. I do care about my friend's work, interests, views on life, aspirations and that's what we talk about.

OriginalUsername2 · 16/06/2024 12:43

Yeah I had a friendship like this. I started being blunt with her about what I thought she was doing and she backed away - she didn’t like hearing the truth.

It’s absolutely exhausting watching them repeat the same behaviour and expecting you to “support” them through it. It’s a literal waste of everyone’s time and I didn’t want to be a part of it anymore. It’s sad to see.

QueenMegan · 16/06/2024 12:49

It depends how much your friendship means to you.
You could resolve to never talk about him by just changing subject and making it clear its best she doesn't discuss him with you as you feel you cant support her. Then you can see if you still have a friendship.
You can't help or understand other people's feelings but I guarantee it won't end well

Emotionalsupporthamster · 16/06/2024 12:53

I wouldn’t end the friendship but I would make it clear that I couldn’t be her source of support or sounding board for her troubles when it came to the relationship.

Nibblepies · 16/06/2024 13:42

The problem is that any relationship (including platonic friendships) is difficult to continue if you lose respect for the other person.

Sure, you could continue seeing Sarah and just avoid all conversation about Sam, but it’s not much of a friendship if you have to exclude a large, important (to her) part of her life.

I would end the friendship but perhaps keep the door open if she ever comes to her senses.

ButtonsB · 16/06/2024 13:47

I think you can end a friendship for any reason.
No longer wishing to be a support and sounding board to someone who is determined to make poor choices is a very good reason IMO

B1anche · 16/06/2024 14:11

I don't think it is unreasonable to back off from a friend who is happy to be someone's "bit on the side". I feel sorry his wife/fiancée.

ProudRobin · 16/06/2024 21:10

Nibblepies · 16/06/2024 13:42

The problem is that any relationship (including platonic friendships) is difficult to continue if you lose respect for the other person.

Sure, you could continue seeing Sarah and just avoid all conversation about Sam, but it’s not much of a friendship if you have to exclude a large, important (to her) part of her life.

I would end the friendship but perhaps keep the door open if she ever comes to her senses.

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I think you have hit the nail on the head with this response. I feel like I am seeing her in a different light after she told me she begged for him to get back together, after we spent hours going over things and she telling me she would never contact him and that he was a cheating asshole. It isn't just the cheating, there have been lies and odd behaviour on his part throughout their relationship, red flags that she doesn't pull him up on, she accepts it as she says she loves him so much, it's almost like she is obsessed with him.

I have been upfront and told her I don't think the way he treats her is acceptable many times over the years. She then claims she is ok with it, but when they broke up she agreed she wasn't happy with him, but turned a blind eye as she loves him so much! I really struggle to see what benefits he brings to the relationship.

I have thought about the idea of telling her I don't want to hear anything about her relationship if she gets back with him. But I think this would be too difficult and would impeed our relationship, as we both discuss our partners (although rarely mine). I think it could be awkward, especially as she looks to me for support regularly, so would want this to continue, she often discusses her relationship problems. I give her my opinion but mostly ignores any advice I offer.

I think if they get back together I will distance myself. I hate conflict and have never had a major fall out/ went no contact with a friend before. I can only hope Sam cracks on with his wife and leaves Sarah alone. I know that Sarah deserves so much better and hopefully she will look back in the future and see this relationship for what it is

Thank you for the other responses, I guess all I can do is wait and see, I really hope for Sarah's sake the relationship is really over..... But I would bet my house on the fact it won't be.

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